Missing menus

[Derek Keats]

Yes, it is only the editor as per my original query. I will take a screenshot during the course of the morning, and put it with a description of the issue.  Thanks, derek

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 10:13 PM, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

And do you confirm that issue only apply to image editor window ? Not Light Table, BQM, and Import tool ?

Can you also take a screenshot of the problem ?

Gilles Caulier

2017-03-02 20:01 GMT+01:00 Derek Keats <[hidden email]>:

Hi Andrey,

Much as I love Digikam, it is rather disappointing, but I cant change my system, on which so much of my workflow is based for my job, and this is more important than my hobby. I tried that and I wasted a lot of time, and quickly went back to Unity on 16.04.

Is still think this is a bug, but I understand that it is unlikely to be solved any time soon.  I think that if this can't be fixed I will have to go back to a version of Digikam from before this bug was introduced. Using shofoto from the command line doesn't really solve anything, I may as well just use Gimp, and just use Digikam as a glorified file manager and tag editor. The whole point of an integrated system is to have a very rapid workflow. Separate tools destroy that. 

Thanks for all the suggestions though. 

Regards
Derek

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Andrey Goreev <[hidden email]> wrote:

Also Derek if you can't stand KDE you can try Ubuntu MATE, Mint Cinnamon or Mint MATE.

They all GNOME based so your Nautilus scripts will work.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

Date: 2017-03-02 8:18 AM (GMT-07:00)

To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: Missing menus

2017-03-02 16:16 GMT+01:00 jdd <[hidden email]>:

Le 02/03/2017 à 15:56, Andrey Goreev a écrit :

As far as I remember all edit tools are under Tools in toolbar not in
menubar.
But regardless, have you tried my workaround?

1. Press Ctrl + M in Editors (it probably won't work)
2. Press Ctrl + L to open Light table
3. In light table press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar. (It should work)
4. Return to the editor window and press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar.
(It should work now)

In my virtualbox, using the Control key is not possible (at least not on unity), and anyway unity is pretty weird in virtualbox/ubuntu 16.10

so I can't help
may be the OP?

but if the editor could be launched as independent windows, I guess the problem would be solved

yes, it is see my previous message.

Gilles Caulier

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[Derek Keats]

Apologies. I rarely use the other tools so I had not noticed it. With 5.5, it is also the case with the light table, batch queue manager, maintenance window. It seems to be any feature that produces a child window. Sorry for not noticing that before. d

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Derek Keats <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes, it is only the editor as per my original query. I will take a screenshot during the course of the morning, and put it with a description of the issue.  Thanks, derek

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 10:13 PM, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

And do you confirm that issue only apply to image editor window ? Not Light Table, BQM, and Import tool ?

Can you also take a screenshot of the problem ?

Gilles Caulier

2017-03-02 20:01 GMT+01:00 Derek Keats <[hidden email]>:

Hi Andrey,

Much as I love Digikam, it is rather disappointing, but I cant change my system, on which so much of my workflow is based for my job, and this is more important than my hobby. I tried that and I wasted a lot of time, and quickly went back to Unity on 16.04.

Is still think this is a bug, but I understand that it is unlikely to be solved any time soon.  I think that if this can't be fixed I will have to go back to a version of Digikam from before this bug was introduced. Using shofoto from the command line doesn't really solve anything, I may as well just use Gimp, and just use Digikam as a glorified file manager and tag editor. The whole point of an integrated system is to have a very rapid workflow. Separate tools destroy that. 

Thanks for all the suggestions though. 

Regards
Derek

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Andrey Goreev <[hidden email]> wrote:

Also Derek if you can't stand KDE you can try Ubuntu MATE, Mint Cinnamon or Mint MATE.

They all GNOME based so your Nautilus scripts will work.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

Date: 2017-03-02 8:18 AM (GMT-07:00)

To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: Missing menus

2017-03-02 16:16 GMT+01:00 jdd <[hidden email]>:

Le 02/03/2017 à 15:56, Andrey Goreev a écrit :

As far as I remember all edit tools are under Tools in toolbar not in
menubar.
But regardless, have you tried my workaround?

1. Press Ctrl + M in Editors (it probably won't work)
2. Press Ctrl + L to open Light table
3. In light table press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar. (It should work)
4. Return to the editor window and press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar.
(It should work now)

In my virtualbox, using the Control key is not possible (at least not on unity), and anyway unity is pretty weird in virtualbox/ubuntu 16.10

so I can't help
may be the OP?

but if the editor could be launched as independent windows, I guess the problem would be solved

yes, it is see my previous message.

Gilles Caulier

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

It's not a child window. LT, editor, BQM, etc.. are new windows created from main digiKam GUI.

As expected, and as i suspected this problem occur for all windows. This is typically a Unity problem, as i said previously...

Gilles Caulier

2017-03-03 8:45 GMT+01:00 Derek Keats <[hidden email]>:

Apologies. I rarely use the other tools so I had not noticed it. With 5.5, it is also the case with the light table, batch queue manager, maintenance window. It seems to be any feature that produces a child window. Sorry for not noticing that before. d

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Derek Keats <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes, it is only the editor as per my original query. I will take a screenshot during the course of the morning, and put it with a description of the issue.  Thanks, derek

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 10:13 PM, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

And do you confirm that issue only apply to image editor window ? Not Light Table, BQM, and Import tool ?

Can you also take a screenshot of the problem ?

Gilles Caulier

2017-03-02 20:01 GMT+01:00 Derek Keats <[hidden email]>:

Hi Andrey,

Much as I love Digikam, it is rather disappointing, but I cant change my system, on which so much of my workflow is based for my job, and this is more important than my hobby. I tried that and I wasted a lot of time, and quickly went back to Unity on 16.04.

Is still think this is a bug, but I understand that it is unlikely to be solved any time soon.  I think that if this can't be fixed I will have to go back to a version of Digikam from before this bug was introduced. Using shofoto from the command line doesn't really solve anything, I may as well just use Gimp, and just use Digikam as a glorified file manager and tag editor. The whole point of an integrated system is to have a very rapid workflow. Separate tools destroy that. 

Thanks for all the suggestions though. 

Regards
Derek

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Andrey Goreev <[hidden email]> wrote:

Also Derek if you can't stand KDE you can try Ubuntu MATE, Mint Cinnamon or Mint MATE.

They all GNOME based so your Nautilus scripts will work.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

Date: 2017-03-02 8:18 AM (GMT-07:00)

To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: Missing menus

2017-03-02 16:16 GMT+01:00 jdd <[hidden email]>:

Le 02/03/2017 à 15:56, Andrey Goreev a écrit :

As far as I remember all edit tools are under Tools in toolbar not in
menubar.
But regardless, have you tried my workaround?

1. Press Ctrl + M in Editors (it probably won't work)
2. Press Ctrl + L to open Light table
3. In light table press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar. (It should work)
4. Return to the editor window and press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar.
(It should work now)

In my virtualbox, using the Control key is not possible (at least not on unity), and anyway unity is pretty weird in virtualbox/ubuntu 16.10

so I can't help
may be the OP?

but if the editor could be launched as independent windows, I guess the problem would be solved

yes, it is see my previous message.

Gilles Caulier

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[Derek Keats]

However....every other application works, even ones that open additional windows, so I think data over assertion is still worth pursuing. I will send link to PDF documenting it as soon as I am finished. Pesky work getting in the way. And I am willing to do anything to test solutions and get this solved.  d

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

It's not a child window. LT, editor, BQM, etc.. are new windows created from main digiKam GUI.

As expected, and as i suspected this problem occur for all windows. This is typically a Unity problem, as i said previously...

Gilles Caulier

2017-03-03 8:45 GMT+01:00 Derek Keats <[hidden email]>:

Apologies. I rarely use the other tools so I had not noticed it. With 5.5, it is also the case with the light table, batch queue manager, maintenance window. It seems to be any feature that produces a child window. Sorry for not noticing that before. d

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Derek Keats <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes, it is only the editor as per my original query. I will take a screenshot during the course of the morning, and put it with a description of the issue.  Thanks, derek

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 10:13 PM, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

And do you confirm that issue only apply to image editor window ? Not Light Table, BQM, and Import tool ?

Can you also take a screenshot of the problem ?

Gilles Caulier

2017-03-02 20:01 GMT+01:00 Derek Keats <[hidden email]>:

Hi Andrey,

Much as I love Digikam, it is rather disappointing, but I cant change my system, on which so much of my workflow is based for my job, and this is more important than my hobby. I tried that and I wasted a lot of time, and quickly went back to Unity on 16.04.

Is still think this is a bug, but I understand that it is unlikely to be solved any time soon.  I think that if this can't be fixed I will have to go back to a version of Digikam from before this bug was introduced. Using shofoto from the command line doesn't really solve anything, I may as well just use Gimp, and just use Digikam as a glorified file manager and tag editor. The whole point of an integrated system is to have a very rapid workflow. Separate tools destroy that. 

Thanks for all the suggestions though. 

Regards
Derek

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Andrey Goreev <[hidden email]> wrote:

Also Derek if you can't stand KDE you can try Ubuntu MATE, Mint Cinnamon or Mint MATE.

They all GNOME based so your Nautilus scripts will work.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

Date: 2017-03-02 8:18 AM (GMT-07:00)

To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: Missing menus

2017-03-02 16:16 GMT+01:00 jdd <[hidden email]>:

Le 02/03/2017 à 15:56, Andrey Goreev a écrit :

As far as I remember all edit tools are under Tools in toolbar not in
menubar.
But regardless, have you tried my workaround?

1. Press Ctrl + M in Editors (it probably won't work)
2. Press Ctrl + L to open Light table
3. In light table press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar. (It should work)
4. Return to the editor window and press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar.
(It should work now)

In my virtualbox, using the Control key is not possible (at least not on unity), and anyway unity is pretty weird in virtualbox/ubuntu 16.10

so I can't help
may be the OP?

but if the editor could be launched as independent windows, I guess the problem would be solved

yes, it is see my previous message.

Gilles Caulier

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Le 03/03/2017 à 10:19, Derek Keats a écrit :
> However....every other application works, even ones that open additional
> windows, so I think data over assertion is still worth pursuing. I will
> send link to PDF documenting it as soon as I am finished. Pesky work
> getting in the way. And I am willing to do anything to test solutions
> and get this solved.  d
>

specially if it works in previous digikam versions. May be there is a
way to test previous version to make clear what patch gives problem,
what is triggering the bug

may be the way the call to external windows is made? where is it in the
source?

the older appimage I find is this

https://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/digikam-5.3.0-01-x86-64.appimage

is the bug present in it?

jdd

[Gilles Caulier-4]

By older version you want mean digiKam 4.x ? if yes Qt 4 is used in this version.

If by older version you want mean digiKam > =5.0 and <= 5.4, KDE framework version change.

In all digiKam 5.x, Qt 5.7 is used.

So the bug can be located in Qt5 or KF5 libraries. Both are used to create and manage main windows in digiKam.

Gilles Caulier

2017-03-03 10:40 GMT+01:00 jdd <[hidden email]>:

Le 03/03/2017 à 10:19, Derek Keats a écrit :

However....every other application works, even ones that open additional
windows, so I think data over assertion is still worth pursuing. I will
send link to PDF documenting it as soon as I am finished. Pesky work
getting in the way. And I am willing to do anything to test solutions
and get this solved.  d

specially if it works in previous digikam versions. May be there is a way to test previous version to make clear what patch gives problem, what is triggering the bug

may be the way the call to external windows is made? where is it in the source?

the older appimage I find is this

https://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/digikam-5.3.0-01-x86-64.appimage

is the bug present in it?

jdd

[Derek Keats]

Hi jdd...

This version (5.3 app image) has no menu at all, not even on the main window. CTRL_M doesn't work.

regards
Derek

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 11:40 AM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:

Le 03/03/2017 à 10:19, Derek Keats a écrit :

However....every other application works, even ones that open additional
windows, so I think data over assertion is still worth pursuing. I will
send link to PDF documenting it as soon as I am finished. Pesky work
getting in the way. And I am willing to do anything to test solutions
and get this solved.  d

specially if it works in previous digikam versions. May be there is a way to test previous version to make clear what patch gives problem, what is triggering the bug

may be the way the call to external windows is made? where is it in the source?

the older appimage I find is this

https://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/digikam-5.3.0-01-x86-64.appimage

is the bug present in it?

jdd

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

Bug soud like in Qt5 :

https://github.com/bjorn/tiled/issues/1132

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appmenu-qt5/+bug/1307619

Typically, the way to handle application menu hosted by Unity desktop need changes in Qt5 which as side effects in other WM and vis versa... (thanks Ubuntu to make a puzzle !)

Solution can be to compile digiKam with last Qt 5.8.0 release few week ago, but the version of Qt do not compile under CentOS 6.8 and this will be fixed in next Qt 5.8.1.

Gilles Caulier

2017-03-03 11:42 GMT+01:00 Derek Keats <[hidden email]>:

Hi jdd...

This version (5.3 app image) has no menu at all, not even on the main window. CTRL_M doesn't work.

regards
Derek

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 11:40 AM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:

Le 03/03/2017 à 10:19, Derek Keats a écrit :

However....every other application works, even ones that open additional
windows, so I think data over assertion is still worth pursuing. I will
send link to PDF documenting it as soon as I am finished. Pesky work
getting in the way. And I am willing to do anything to test solutions
and get this solved.  d

specially if it works in previous digikam versions. May be there is a way to test previous version to make clear what patch gives problem, what is triggering the bug

may be the way the call to external windows is made? where is it in the source?

the older appimage I find is this

https://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/digikam-5.3.0-01-x86-64.appimage

is the bug present in it?

jdd

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Le 03/03/2017 à 11:54, Gilles Caulier a écrit :

> Solution can be to compile digiKam with last Qt 5.8.0 release few week
> ago, but the version of Qt do not compile under CentOS 6.8 and this will
> be fixed in next Qt 5.8.1.
>

good, so may be fixed soon, thanks!

jdd

[Derek Keats]

In case it is still useful, I documented it with images 

http://blog.dkeats.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/digikam-bug-report.pdf

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:05 PM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:

Le 03/03/2017 à 11:54, Gilles Caulier a écrit :

Solution can be to compile digiKam with last Qt 5.8.0 release few week
ago, but the version of Qt do not compile under CentOS 6.8 and this will
be fixed in next Qt 5.8.1.

good, so may be fixed soon, thanks!

jdd

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[Derek Keats]

Soon in ecological or geological time? Bug was filed  Mon Apr 14 18:52:18 2014

😀

I tried the things recommended in those two posts, no effect. 

regards
Derek

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:05 PM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:

Le 03/03/2017 à 11:54, Gilles Caulier a écrit :

Solution can be to compile digiKam with last Qt 5.8.0 release few week
ago, but the version of Qt do not compile under CentOS 6.8 and this will
be fixed in next Qt 5.8.1.

good, so may be fixed soon, thanks!

jdd

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[Derek Keats]

If anyone makes an appimage compiled in this way, I will be very happy to test it. 

thanks

derek

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

Bug soud like in Qt5 :

https://github.com/bjorn/tiled/issues/1132

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appmenu-qt5/+bug/1307619

Typically, the way to handle application menu hosted by Unity desktop need changes in Qt5 which as side effects in other WM and vis versa... (thanks Ubuntu to make a puzzle !)

Solution can be to compile digiKam with last Qt 5.8.0 release few week ago, but the version of Qt do not compile under CentOS 6.8 and this will be fixed in next Qt 5.8.1.

Gilles Caulier

2017-03-03 11:42 GMT+01:00 Derek Keats <[hidden email]>:

Hi jdd...

This version (5.3 app image) has no menu at all, not even on the main window. CTRL_M doesn't work.

regards
Derek

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 11:40 AM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:

Le 03/03/2017 à 10:19, Derek Keats a écrit :

However....every other application works, even ones that open additional
windows, so I think data over assertion is still worth pursuing. I will
send link to PDF documenting it as soon as I am finished. Pesky work
getting in the way. And I am willing to do anything to test solutions
and get this solved.  d

specially if it works in previous digikam versions. May be there is a way to test previous version to make clear what patch gives problem, what is triggering the bug

may be the way the call to external windows is made? where is it in the source?

the older appimage I find is this

https://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/digikam-5.3.0-01-x86-64.appimage

is the bug present in it?

jdd

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[Derek Keats]

Hi Folks, 

I ended up going back to Digikam 4 because I have not been able to do any picture editing for more than a month. But if anyone manages to get an Appimage or .DEB of Digikam 5.X that works with Unity, how can I find out? If possible, please let me know. 

Thanks
Derek

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Derek Keats <[hidden email]> wrote:

If anyone makes an appimage compiled in this way, I will be very happy to test it. 

thanks

derek

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

Bug soud like in Qt5 :

https://github.com/bjorn/tiled/issues/1132

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appmenu-qt5/+bug/1307619

Typically, the way to handle application menu hosted by Unity desktop need changes in Qt5 which as side effects in other WM and vis versa... (thanks Ubuntu to make a puzzle !)

Solution can be to compile digiKam with last Qt 5.8.0 release few week ago, but the version of Qt do not compile under CentOS 6.8 and this will be fixed in next Qt 5.8.1.

Gilles Caulier

2017-03-03 11:42 GMT+01:00 Derek Keats <[hidden email]>:

Hi jdd...

This version (5.3 app image) has no menu at all, not even on the main window. CTRL_M doesn't work.

regards
Derek

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 11:40 AM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:

Le 03/03/2017 à 10:19, Derek Keats a écrit :

However....every other application works, even ones that open additional
windows, so I think data over assertion is still worth pursuing. I will
send link to PDF documenting it as soon as I am finished. Pesky work
getting in the way. And I am willing to do anything to test solutions
and get this solved.  d

specially if it works in previous digikam versions. May be there is a way to test previous version to make clear what patch gives problem, what is triggering the bug

may be the way the call to external windows is made? where is it in the source?

the older appimage I find is this

https://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/digikam-5.3.0-01-x86-64.appimage

is the bug present in it?

jdd

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[maderios]

On 03/07/2017 07:25 PM, Derek Keats wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I ended up going back to Digikam 4 because I have not been able to do
> any picture editing for more than a month. But if anyone manages to get
> an Appimage or .DEB of Digikam 5.X that works with Unity, how can I find
> out? If possible, please let me know.
>
Hi
Unity is just a desktop environnement... Problem is not here...
On Debian Stretch, this DK 5 version works fine
Package: digikam
Version: 4:5.3.0-1
Installed-Size: 1760
Maintainer: Debian KDE Extras Team <[hidden email]>
Architecture: amd64
Depends: digikam-private-libs (= 4:5.3.0-1), libc6 (>= 2.4), libgcc1 (>=
1:3.0), libkf5configcore5 (>= 4.97.0), libkf5coreaddons5 (>= 4.100.0),
libkf5filemetadata3 (>= 5.1.0.1), libkf5i18n5 (>= 4.97.0), libqt5core5a
(>= 5.7.0), libqt5gui5 (>= 5.4.0), libqt5sql5 (>= 5.4.0), libqt5widgets5
(>= 5.4.0), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), perl:any, libqt5sql5-sqlite,
libqt5sql5-mysql, digikam-data (= 4:5.3.0-1), kipi-plugins (= 4:5.3.0-1)
Recommends: www-browser, ffmpegthumbs
Suggests: digikam-doc, systemsettings


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Maderios