Missing menus

[Derek Keats]

@jdd 

in DK 5.5 there are no menu bars on both Ubuntu 16.04, and 16.10

In DK 5.4 there are two menu bars on Ubuntu 16.04 and no menu bars on 16.10

Everything works fine in the Digikam 4 series on both versions of Ubuntu.

The problem is something introduced with Digikam 5.

Please see my first couple of posts. 

It seems I have three choices

1. Use the Digikam 4 series

2. Pin Digikam 5.4 and not do any further upgrades

3. Use something else.

I'd prefer to use the new releases as they are continuously improved. The problem with option 3 is that there is nothing else in the occupied universe that comes remotely close to Digikam.

Thanks

Derek

 

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 10:05 AM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:

Le 02/03/2017 à 08:59, Derek Keats a écrit :

It is JUST a Unity problem, but it only happens with Digikam. All other
KDE apps work fine.

so it just need to understand why there is a problem, not that easy as you didn't succeed yet :-(

but I seems to understand there is only one menu bat insted of two, I don't see why this prevent you from using digikam. I nearly never use menu bars with it

jdd

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Le 02/03/2017 à 09:25, Derek Keats a écrit :
> @jdd
>
> in DK 5.5 there are no menu bars on both Ubuntu 16.04, and 16.10

none? If I remember correctly there was one in the editor, but the
thread was so long I probably missed something

I'm not (and never was) an ubuntu user

jdd

[Derek Keats]

If there was one in the Editor I would be be the happiest camper in the Local cluster of galaxies!

d

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 11:00 AM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:

Le 02/03/2017 à 09:25, Derek Keats a écrit :

@jdd

in DK 5.5 there are no menu bars on both Ubuntu 16.04, and 16.10

none? If I remember correctly there was one in the editor, but the thread was so long I probably missed something

I'm not (and never was) an ubuntu user

jdd

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Le 02/03/2017 à 10:14, Derek Keats a écrit :
> If there was one in the Editor I would be be the happiest camper in the
> Local cluster of galaxies!
> d
  :-)
I just try to install ubuntu in virtualbox

jdd

[Derek Keats]

Awesome, thanks... let me know if I can help in any way.

regards 

derek

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 11:30 AM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:

Le 02/03/2017 à 10:14, Derek Keats a écrit :

If there was one in the Editor I would be be the happiest camper in the
Local cluster of galaxies!
d

 :-)
I just try to install ubuntu in virtualbox

jdd

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Le 02/03/2017 à 10:36, Derek Keats a écrit :
> Awesome, thanks... let me know if I can help in any way.

result:

installed ubuntu 16.10 in virtualbox, all defaults (safe 28Gb dynamic disk)

download digikam appimage, run it, take all by default

enlarge a bit the display up to 1268x1024

download random image (the ones from Gilles)

open images in digikam. opening using then closing the editor I still
see the top menu in the main digikam windows

http://dodin.org/owncloud/index.php/s/3h9UfYYVRfw7mII

I don't see it in the editor menu but don't need it

may I try some other thing?

jdd

[Derek Keats]

Yes, the editor is the issue. It works fine in everything EXCEPT the editor.

Without the editor, I can't use Digikam. 

d

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 12:08 PM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:

Le 02/03/2017 à 10:36, Derek Keats a écrit :

Awesome, thanks... let me know if I can help in any way.

result:

installed ubuntu 16.10 in virtualbox, all defaults (safe 28Gb dynamic disk)

download digikam appimage, run it, take all by default

enlarge a bit the display up to 1268x1024

download random image (the ones from Gilles)

open images in digikam. opening using then closing the editor I still see the top menu in the main digikam windows

http://dodin.org/owncloud/index.php/s/3h9UfYYVRfw7mII

I don't see it in the editor menu but don't need it

may I try some other thing?

jdd

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Le 02/03/2017 à 11:25, Derek Keats a écrit :
> Yes, the editor is the issue. It works fine in everything EXCEPT the editor.
> Without the editor, I can't use Digikam.
> d

but why do you need the general menu in the editor? You can add the
missing functions to the toolbar, as I do

jdd

[Derek Keats]

I need the edit menu. Otherwise I cannot edit the image. None of the edit functionality is accessible.

Not sure what you mean though about adding missing functions to the toolbar.  There are 45 items in the edit menu!  
Are you saying that a work around is to create a toolbar and add those 45 items to it?

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 1:28 PM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:

Le 02/03/2017 à 11:25, Derek Keats a écrit :

Yes, the editor is the issue. It works fine in everything EXCEPT the editor.
Without the editor, I can't use Digikam.
d

but why do you need the general menu in the editor? You can add the missing functions to the toolbar, as I do

jdd

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Le 02/03/2017 à 13:00, Derek Keats a écrit :
> I need the edit menu. Otherwise I cannot edit the image. None of the
> edit functionality is accessible.

I think I understand better the situation, and may be found a solution

In digikam appimage, the editor is included and I didn't finf a way to
launch it alone - normally it's called "shofoto" and can also be called
independently.

When launched in ubuntu / appimage, the menu bar displayed is always the
main windows one, so I suppose that the problem is the fact that the
editor is a daughter windows, not the main one.

The may be solution is to notice that at the bootom of the right menu
(where tags are) there is a "pencil" icon tooltip "tools", that have
most if not all editing tools

hope this help
jdd

[AndriusWild]

As far as I remember all edit tools are under Tools in toolbar not in menubar.

But regardless, have you tried my workaround?

1. Press Ctrl + M in Editors (it probably won't work)

2. Press Ctrl + L to open Light table

3. In light table press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar. (It should work)

4. Return to the editor window and press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar. (It should work now)

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: Derek Keats <[hidden email]>

Date: 2017-03-02 5:00 AM (GMT-07:00)

To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: Missing menus

I need the edit menu. Otherwise I cannot edit the image. None of the edit functionality is accessible.

Not sure what you mean though about adding missing functions to the toolbar.  There are 45 items in the edit menu!  
Are you saying that a work around is to create a toolbar and add those 45 items to it?

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 1:28 PM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:

Le 02/03/2017 à 11:25, Derek Keats a écrit :

Yes, the editor is the issue. It works fine in everything EXCEPT the editor.
Without the editor, I can't use Digikam.
d

but why do you need the general menu in the editor? You can add the missing functions to the toolbar, as I do

jdd

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2017-03-02 15:54 GMT+01:00 jdd <[hidden email]>:

Le 02/03/2017 à 13:00, Derek Keats a écrit :

I need the edit menu. Otherwise I cannot edit the image. None of the
edit functionality is accessible.

I think I understand better the situation, and may be found a solution

In digikam appimage, the editor is included and I didn't finf a way to launch it alone - normally it's called "shofoto" and can also be called independently.

AppImage has option from CLI :

[gilles@localhost Downloads]$ ./digikam-5.5.0-01-x86-64.appimage help     
-- digiKam AppImage Bundle
-- Use 'help' as CLI argument to know all available options
digiKam AppImage bundle CLI options:
without option     : run digiKam.
<showfoto>         : run Showfoto instead digiKam.
<debug>            : run digiKam into GDB.
<debug> <showfoto> : run Showfoto into GDB.
<help>             : show this help.
[gilles@localhost Downloads]$

 

When launched in ubuntu / appimage, the menu bar displayed is always the main windows one, so I suppose that the problem is the fact that the editor is a daughter windows, not the 

main one.

digiKam image editor (not showfoto) is also a stand alone window, as Light table and Batch Queue manager.

Gilles Caulier 

Le 02/03/2017 à 15:56, Andrey Goreev a écrit :

> As far as I remember all edit tools are under Tools in toolbar not in
> menubar.
> But regardless, have you tried my workaround?
>
> 1. Press Ctrl + M in Editors (it probably won't work)
> 2. Press Ctrl + L to open Light table
> 3. In light table press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar. (It should work)
> 4. Return to the editor window and press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar.
> (It should work now)
>
>

In my virtualbox, using the Control key is not possible (at least not on
unity), and anyway unity is pretty weird in virtualbox/ubuntu 16.10

so I can't help
may be the OP?

but if the editor could be launched as independent windows, I guess the
problem would be solved

jdd

[Gilles Caulier-4]

2017-03-02 16:16 GMT+01:00 jdd <[hidden email]>:

Le 02/03/2017 à 15:56, Andrey Goreev a écrit :

As far as I remember all edit tools are under Tools in toolbar not in
menubar.
But regardless, have you tried my workaround?

1. Press Ctrl + M in Editors (it probably won't work)
2. Press Ctrl + L to open Light table
3. In light table press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar. (It should work)
4. Return to the editor window and press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar.
(It should work now)

In my virtualbox, using the Control key is not possible (at least not on unity), and anyway unity is pretty weird in virtualbox/ubuntu 16.10

so I can't help
may be the OP?

but if the editor could be launched as independent windows, I guess the problem would be solved

yes, it is see my previous message.

Gilles Caulier

Le 02/03/2017 à 16:18, Gilles Caulier a écrit :


> yes, it is see my previous message.
>

I meant, from inside digikam

jdd

[AndriusWild]

Also Derek if you can't stand KDE you can try Ubuntu MATE, Mint Cinnamon or Mint MATE.

They all GNOME based so your Nautilus scripts will work.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

Date: 2017-03-02 8:18 AM (GMT-07:00)

To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: Missing menus

2017-03-02 16:16 GMT+01:00 jdd <[hidden email]>:

Le 02/03/2017 à 15:56, Andrey Goreev a écrit :

As far as I remember all edit tools are under Tools in toolbar not in
menubar.
But regardless, have you tried my workaround?

1. Press Ctrl + M in Editors (it probably won't work)
2. Press Ctrl + L to open Light table
3. In light table press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar. (It should work)
4. Return to the editor window and press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar.
(It should work now)

In my virtualbox, using the Control key is not possible (at least not on unity), and anyway unity is pretty weird in virtualbox/ubuntu 16.10

so I can't help
may be the OP?

but if the editor could be launched as independent windows, I guess the problem would be solved

yes, it is see my previous message.

Gilles Caulier

[Derek Keats]

Hi Andrey,

Much as I love Digikam, it is rather disappointing, but I cant change my system, on which so much of my workflow is based for my job, and this is more important than my hobby. I tried that and I wasted a lot of time, and quickly went back to Unity on 16.04.

Is still think this is a bug, but I understand that it is unlikely to be solved any time soon.  I think that if this can't be fixed I will have to go back to a version of Digikam from before this bug was introduced. Using shofoto from the command line doesn't really solve anything, I may as well just use Gimp, and just use Digikam as a glorified file manager and tag editor. The whole point of an integrated system is to have a very rapid workflow. Separate tools destroy that. 

Thanks for all the suggestions though. 

Regards
Derek

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Andrey Goreev <[hidden email]> wrote:

Also Derek if you can't stand KDE you can try Ubuntu MATE, Mint Cinnamon or Mint MATE.

They all GNOME based so your Nautilus scripts will work.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

Date: 2017-03-02 8:18 AM (GMT-07:00)

To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: Missing menus

2017-03-02 16:16 GMT+01:00 jdd <[hidden email]>:

Le 02/03/2017 à 15:56, Andrey Goreev a écrit :

As far as I remember all edit tools are under Tools in toolbar not in
menubar.
But regardless, have you tried my workaround?

1. Press Ctrl + M in Editors (it probably won't work)
2. Press Ctrl + L to open Light table
3. In light table press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar. (It should work)
4. Return to the editor window and press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar.
(It should work now)

In my virtualbox, using the Control key is not possible (at least not on unity), and anyway unity is pretty weird in virtualbox/ubuntu 16.10

so I can't help
may be the OP?

but if the editor could be launched as independent windows, I guess the problem would be solved

yes, it is see my previous message.

Gilles Caulier

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[AndriusWild]

Derek

I guess one will have to compare the code for digiKam editor x.x (whichever version works for you) and digiKam 5.5 and try to understand where the issue is.

I just wanted to add that you can have multiple Desktop Environments on the same system and switch them on login. So you don't have to reinstall anything which means your work tools / files won't be touched.

I personally use darktable and RawTherapee for RAW developing and digiKam for all the rest.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: Derek Keats <[hidden email]>

Date: 2017-03-02 12:01 PM (GMT-07:00)

To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: Missing menus

Hi Andrey,

Much as I love Digikam, it is rather disappointing, but I cant change my system, on which so much of my workflow is based for my job, and this is more important than my hobby. I tried that and I wasted a lot of time, and quickly went back to Unity on 16.04.

Is still think this is a bug, but I understand that it is unlikely to be solved any time soon.  I think that if this can't be fixed I will have to go back to a version of Digikam from before this bug was introduced. Using shofoto from the command line doesn't really solve anything, I may as well just use Gimp, and just use Digikam as a glorified file manager and tag editor. The whole point of an integrated system is to have a very rapid workflow. Separate tools destroy that. 

Thanks for all the suggestions though. 

Regards
Derek

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Andrey Goreev <[hidden email]> wrote:

Also Derek if you can't stand KDE you can try Ubuntu MATE, Mint Cinnamon or Mint MATE.

They all GNOME based so your Nautilus scripts will work.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

Date: 2017-03-02 8:18 AM (GMT-07:00)

To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: Missing menus

2017-03-02 16:16 GMT+01:00 jdd <[hidden email]>:

Le 02/03/2017 à 15:56, Andrey Goreev a écrit :

As far as I remember all edit tools are under Tools in toolbar not in
menubar.
But regardless, have you tried my workaround?

1. Press Ctrl + M in Editors (it probably won't work)
2. Press Ctrl + L to open Light table
3. In light table press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar. (It should work)
4. Return to the editor window and press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar.
(It should work now)

In my virtualbox, using the Control key is not possible (at least not on unity), and anyway unity is pretty weird in virtualbox/ubuntu 16.10

so I can't help
may be the OP?

but if the editor could be launched as independent windows, I guess the problem would be solved

yes, it is see my previous message.

Gilles Caulier

--

[Gilles Caulier-4]

And do you confirm that issue only apply to image editor window ? Not Light Table, BQM, and Import tool ?

Can you also take a screenshot of the problem ?

Gilles Caulier

2017-03-02 20:01 GMT+01:00 Derek Keats <[hidden email]>:

Hi Andrey,

Much as I love Digikam, it is rather disappointing, but I cant change my system, on which so much of my workflow is based for my job, and this is more important than my hobby. I tried that and I wasted a lot of time, and quickly went back to Unity on 16.04.

Is still think this is a bug, but I understand that it is unlikely to be solved any time soon.  I think that if this can't be fixed I will have to go back to a version of Digikam from before this bug was introduced. Using shofoto from the command line doesn't really solve anything, I may as well just use Gimp, and just use Digikam as a glorified file manager and tag editor. The whole point of an integrated system is to have a very rapid workflow. Separate tools destroy that. 

Thanks for all the suggestions though. 

Regards
Derek

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Andrey Goreev <[hidden email]> wrote:

Also Derek if you can't stand KDE you can try Ubuntu MATE, Mint Cinnamon or Mint MATE.

They all GNOME based so your Nautilus scripts will work.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

Date: 2017-03-02 8:18 AM (GMT-07:00)

To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: Missing menus

2017-03-02 16:16 GMT+01:00 jdd <[hidden email]>:

Le 02/03/2017 à 15:56, Andrey Goreev a écrit :

As far as I remember all edit tools are under Tools in toolbar not in
menubar.
But regardless, have you tried my workaround?

1. Press Ctrl + M in Editors (it probably won't work)
2. Press Ctrl + L to open Light table
3. In light table press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar. (It should work)
4. Return to the editor window and press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar.
(It should work now)

In my virtualbox, using the Control key is not possible (at least not on unity), and anyway unity is pretty weird in virtualbox/ubuntu 16.10

so I can't help
may be the OP?

but if the editor could be launched as independent windows, I guess the problem would be solved

yes, it is see my previous message.

Gilles Caulier

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[Derek Keats]

Hi yes, I understand that one can do multiple desktops or multiple distros. But it is not compatible with my work. I do work and play interspersed because we are a global company, I often am on work stuff most working hours, and I am often editing photos while waiting for a conference call to start. Switching back and forth would just slow down the workflow, and it is the speed of workflow athat makes me love Digikam. Nothing else works as well. d

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Andrey Goreev <[hidden email]> wrote:

Derek

I guess one will have to compare the code for digiKam editor x.x (whichever version works for you) and digiKam 5.5 and try to understand where the issue is.

I just wanted to add that you can have multiple Desktop Environments on the same system and switch them on login. So you don't have to reinstall anything which means your work tools / files won't be touched.

I personally use darktable and RawTherapee for RAW developing and digiKam for all the rest.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: Derek Keats <[hidden email]>

Date: 2017-03-02 12:01 PM (GMT-07:00)

To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: Missing menus

Hi Andrey,

Much as I love Digikam, it is rather disappointing, but I cant change my system, on which so much of my workflow is based for my job, and this is more important than my hobby. I tried that and I wasted a lot of time, and quickly went back to Unity on 16.04.

Is still think this is a bug, but I understand that it is unlikely to be solved any time soon.  I think that if this can't be fixed I will have to go back to a version of Digikam from before this bug was introduced. Using shofoto from the command line doesn't really solve anything, I may as well just use Gimp, and just use Digikam as a glorified file manager and tag editor. The whole point of an integrated system is to have a very rapid workflow. Separate tools destroy that. 

Thanks for all the suggestions though. 

Regards
Derek

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Andrey Goreev <[hidden email]> wrote:

Also Derek if you can't stand KDE you can try Ubuntu MATE, Mint Cinnamon or Mint MATE.

They all GNOME based so your Nautilus scripts will work.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------

From: Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>

Date: 2017-03-02 8:18 AM (GMT-07:00)

To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>

Subject: Re: Missing menus

2017-03-02 16:16 GMT+01:00 jdd <[hidden email]>:

Le 02/03/2017 à 15:56, Andrey Goreev a écrit :

As far as I remember all edit tools are under Tools in toolbar not in
menubar.
But regardless, have you tried my workaround?

1. Press Ctrl + M in Editors (it probably won't work)
2. Press Ctrl + L to open Light table
3. In light table press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar. (It should work)
4. Return to the editor window and press Ctrl + M to show/hide menubar.
(It should work now)

In my virtualbox, using the Control key is not possible (at least not on unity), and anyway unity is pretty weird in virtualbox/ubuntu 16.10

so I can't help
may be the OP?

but if the editor could be launched as independent windows, I guess the problem would be solved

yes, it is see my previous message.

Gilles Caulier

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