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Kim
I'm having a "silly" but frustrating problem.  When I set up digikam I
set my collection folders under Settings - Configure digikam.
I used the Collections menu there to set up the album folders.
I have some folders for photos I take, and others for genealogy records.
When I import images using my SD card DK adds the new folder to the
collection fine.  BUT when I download record images and manually make a
folder in my dropbox folder and put the new images in there, DK is not
updating the folder list in dropbox when I open DK.

I can't figure out how to get it to find the new folders or images.
Since I organize my document folders with many subfolders by
topic/family it would be very hard to figure out what folders DK has not
imported since I set it up.

Going to Browse - Refresh does not show the newer folders.

I thought of using Import - Folders and having it import my dropbox
folder again, BUT it looks like it's copying all the folders and images
into another place??  Or is it just bringing in links to the newer files
and photos?

Any other photo album/editor I've used before Picassa or Photo Shop
Elements have always recognized when I opened it to check the marked
folders for new images.  I'm not understanding  how to have DK do this.

Hopefully there is an easy way to do this, I just can't find it.
Thanks,
Kim
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Digikam works on physical folders tree.
If your Dropbox folder (guessing as I've not used Dropbox with DK) is not included in the arborescence of one your collections, DK will have no way to detect new pictures.
So either you set up an additional collection from your Dropbox folder or subfolder; or you keep Dropbox separate from DK and have to import/copy your pictures in a local folder that is already recognized by Digikam.

Marie-Noëlle

2013/1/18 Kim <[hidden email]>
I'm having a "silly" but frustrating problem.  When I set up digikam I set my collection folders under Settings - Configure digikam.
I used the Collections menu there to set up the album folders.
I have some folders for photos I take, and others for genealogy records.
When I import images using my SD card DK adds the new folder to the collection fine.  BUT when I download record images and manually make a folder in my dropbox folder and put the new images in there, DK is not updating the folder list in dropbox when I open DK.

I can't figure out how to get it to find the new folders or images.
Since I organize my document folders with many subfolders by topic/family it would be very hard to figure out what folders DK has not imported since I set it up.

Going to Browse - Refresh does not show the newer folders.

I thought of using Import - Folders and having it import my dropbox folder again, BUT it looks like it's copying all the folders and images into another place??  Or is it just bringing in links to the newer files and photos?

Any other photo album/editor I've used before Picassa or Photo Shop Elements have always recognized when I opened it to check the marked folders for new images.  I'm not understanding  how to have DK do this.

Hopefully there is an easy way to do this, I just can't find it.
Thanks,
Kim
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The dropbox IS a folder on my hard drive and it's set as a root folder
in the collections.  However I've noticed that when I make a new folder
in it and add document images in that folder, when I open DK the new
folders and images are not there.  Since I have multiple folders and
subfolders in my dropbox account and have been adding to it for months,
it will be very difficult to figure out what folders are not in DK.

This should be thought of as any other folder ie. photos or pictures.  
If you add a new subfolder to it, should DK not recognize you've done
that and add it when you start the program?

Thanks,
Kim

On 01/18/2013 01:40 AM, Marie-Noëlle Augendre wrote:

> Digikam works on physical folders tree.
> If your Dropbox folder (guessing as I've not used Dropbox with DK) is
> not included in the arborescence of one your collections, DK will have
> no way to detect new pictures.
> So either you set up an additional collection from your Dropbox folder
> or subfolder; or you keep Dropbox separate from DK and have to
> import/copy your pictures in a local folder that is already recognized
> by Digikam.
>
> Marie-Noëlle

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Re: How to update photo collections?

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Fredag den 18. januar 2013 11:12:01 skrev Kim:

> The dropbox IS a folder on my hard drive and it's set as a root folder

> in the collections. However I've noticed that when I make a new folder

> in it and add document images in that folder, when I open DK the new

> folders and images are not there. Since I have multiple folders and

> subfolders in my dropbox account and have been adding to it for months,

> it will be very difficult to figure out what folders are not in DK.

 

Somewhere in the digikam configuration there is an option to decide if it should check for new images at startup. Is that enabled?

 

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2013/1/18 Kim <[hidden email]>
 If you add a new subfolder to it, should DK not recognize you've done that and add it when you start the program?

Thanks,
Kim


There is an option in the configuration menu (last tab, named "Divers" in french) for Digikam to search new elements automatically every time you lauch the program; but it slows down the starting process, and I think users usually don't activate this option.


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Kim
Thank you I found it and it was already checked.  I uncheck it restarted, then checked it again, restarted and it still doesn't find the new folders. :(

Kim

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There is an option in the configuration menu (last tab, named "Divers" in french) for Digikam to search new elements automatically every time you lauch the program; but it slows down the starting process, and I think users usually don't activate this option.


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Re: How to update photo collections?

Volker Henn

 

Hi,

maybe you can try Extras -> Maintenance -> Scan for new Items

(sorry I have only the german version.

 

Volker

 

Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2013, 11:33:12 schrieb Kim:

Thank you I found it and it was already checked.  I uncheck it restarted, then checked it again, restarted and it still doesn't find the new folders. :(

Kim

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There is an option in the configuration menu (last tab, named "Divers" in french) for Digikam to search new elements automatically every time you lauch the program; but it slows down the starting process, and I think users usually don't activate this option.




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Thanks Volker,  I tried that but it didn't change anything, I already had it checked.
I've also gone to Tools - Scan for New Images.  Selecting that opens a pop up box, it looks like it quickly goes to 39% then stops and closes. 

Any ideas why it might not be completing the scan?

Thanks,
Kim

On 01/18/2013 11:51 AM, Volker Henn wrote:

 

Hi,

maybe you can try Extras -> Maintenance -> Scan for new Items

(sorry I have only the german version.

 

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Le 18/01/2013 17:33, Kim a écrit :
> Thank you I found it and it was already checked.  I uncheck it
> restarted, then checked it again, restarted and it still doesn't find
> the new folders. :(

odd :-(

sorry I didn't read all the thread.

* is this windows or linux?
* was the dropbox folder created by drobox utility or directly by you?
* what are the permissions of this folder?
* where is located the folder (main hard drive, nerwork mount...)?

I just created a folder named "Dropbox" in my openSUSE home, pasted a
folder with photos in it and I could open it and see it in digikam

* may be dropbox lock the folder during up or download?

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 >>* is this windows or linux?
It's linux, I'm using Bodhi 2.2.0

 >>* was the dropbox folder created by drobox utility or directly by you?
It was created by dropbox.  I had this set up long before I started
using DK.

 >>* what are the permissions of this folder?
it shows owner read and write

 >>* where is located the folder (main hard drive, nerwork mount...)?
It's on my main hard drive.

 >>I just created a folder named "Dropbox" in my openSUSE home, pasted a
folder with photos in it and I could open it and see it in digikam
 >>* may be dropbox lock the folder during up or download?

The dropbox app wasn't showing any upload or download activity when I
opened DK.

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Le 18/01/2013 18:31, Kim a écrit :
>  >>* is this windows or linux?
> It's linux, I'm using Bodhi 2.2.0

ok

no more ideas :-(

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Re: How to update photo collections?/ DK update?

Kim
I was looking in DK and see I'm running version 2.5 that is in the
package manager.  This looks like it's a bit out dated.  Is there a ppa
to get the newer stable version on?  I'm running Bodhi 2.2.0 that is
built off Ubuntu 12.04.
Perhaps updating will solve the collections issue?

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On Thursday, January 17, 2013 09:38:22 PM Kim wrote:
> BUT when I download record images and manually make a
> folder in my dropbox folder and put the new images in there, DK is not
> updating the folder list in dropbox when I open DK.

for those of us unfamiliar with using dropbox, can you provide detail into
your configuration of dropbox? How did you set it up? Is this dropbox folder
its own Collection under DK, or it is a subfolder and part of a larger
collection? If someone can reproduce your problem the higher likelihood of
resolution.

  - brad

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Kim
Dropbox is an online back up site (dropbox.com), they have both free and
paid options.  You can either upload your files to it for a backup or
install their app that puts a folder called dropbox on your hard drive.  
Any files you put in that are uploaded to your dropbox account.  Their
app keeps your hard drive folder and your account on their website in
sync.  If you change a file it uploads the newest copy to their server
when you have closed that file.
So the photos are physically on my hard drive at all times.

I have my dropbox folder set up as it's own collection in DK.

I was trying to figure out how to get a newer version of DK, I found
Philip's ppa https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/extra
Installed that and tried to update DK.  It ended up removing DK, then
would not let it reinstall stating dependency issues. Although it
installed and changed a ton of stuff on my pc.
I ended up having to purge that ppa and then reinstall DK from the
standard ppa.  For some reason instead of having the version 2.5 I had
now I'm down to version 2.4.1.  I don't get it, this just isn't my day!
LOL  I don't remember having installed DK from anywhere but the stock
repo before so I don't know why my version is now older.

Is there an "easy" way I can install the latest stable version of DK?  
I've been using linux for almost a year now, but still consider myself a
newbie.

Oh and even with going down a version, it still looks like it stops
about 39% into scanning for new images.

Thanks,
Kim

On 01/18/2013 02:10 PM, brad wrote:
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> for those of us unfamiliar with using dropbox, can you provide detail into
> your configuration of dropbox? How did you set it up? Is this dropbox folder
> its own Collection under DK, or it is a subfolder and part of a larger
> collection? If someone can reproduce your problem the higher likelihood of
> resolution.
>
>    - brad

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You're way behind on versioning...
With Fedora, I'm on Digikam 2.9.0 from the ordinary repos. And 3.0.0 is in RC stage.

Marie-Noëlle


2013/1/18 Kim <[hidden email]>
Dropbox is an online back up site (dropbox.com), they have both free and paid options.  You can either upload your files to it for a backup or install their app that puts a folder called dropbox on your hard drive.  Any files you put in that are uploaded to your dropbox account.  Their app keeps your hard drive folder and your account on their website in sync.  If you change a file it uploads the newest copy to their server when you have closed that file.
So the photos are physically on my hard drive at all times.

I have my dropbox folder set up as it's own collection in DK.

I was trying to figure out how to get a newer version of DK, I found Philip's ppa https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/extra
Installed that and tried to update DK.  It ended up removing DK, then would not let it reinstall stating dependency issues. Although it installed and changed a ton of stuff on my pc.
I ended up having to purge that ppa and then reinstall DK from the standard ppa.  For some reason instead of having the version 2.5 I had now I'm down to version 2.4.1.  I don't get it, this just isn't my day! LOL  I don't remember having installed DK from anywhere but the stock repo before so I don't know why my version is now older.

Is there an "easy" way I can install the latest stable version of DK?  I've been using linux for almost a year now, but still consider myself a newbie.

Oh and even with going down a version, it still looks like it stops about 39% into scanning for new images.

Thanks,
Kim


On 01/18/2013 02:10 PM, brad wrote:

for those of us unfamiliar with using dropbox, can you provide detail into
your configuration of dropbox? How did you set it up? Is this dropbox folder
its own Collection under DK, or it is a subfolder and part of a larger
collection? If someone can reproduce your problem the higher likelihood of
resolution.

   - brad

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Kim
Yes I'm realizing that now, but I can't figure out how to get the 2.9
installed.  The only one in the package manager (ubuntu 12.04) is
2.4.1.  I don't understand why it is so far behind the current version....
I'm searching for another way to install it, but I'm not having much
luck so far. :(

Kim

On 01/18/2013 02:51 PM, Marie-Noëlle Augendre wrote:
> You're way behind on versioning...
> With Fedora, I'm on Digikam 2.9.0 from the ordinary repos. And 3.0.0
> is in RC stage.
>
> Marie-Noëlle
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You need ro look for Philip Johnson's ppa. I think you will also nees jis extras ppa to get all correct libraries. I don't use ubuntu so unfortunately can't give you exaxt details

On 18 Jan 2013 20:38, "Kim" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes I'm realizing that now, but I can't figure out how to get the 2.9 installed.  The only one in the package manager (ubuntu 12.04) is 2.4.1.  I don't understand why it is so far behind the current version....
I'm searching for another way to install it, but I'm not having much luck so far. :(

Kim

On 01/18/2013 02:51 PM, Marie-Noëlle Augendre wrote:
You're way behind on versioning...
With Fedora, I'm on Digikam 2.9.0 from the ordinary repos. And 3.0.0 is in RC stage.

Marie-Noëlle


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On Friday, January 18, 2013 02:29:39 PM Kim wrote:

> Dropbox is an online back up site (dropbox.com), they have both free and
> paid options.  You can either upload your files to it for a backup or
> install their app that puts a folder called dropbox on your hard drive.
> Any files you put in that are uploaded to your dropbox account.  Their
> app keeps your hard drive folder and your account on their website in
> sync.  If you change a file it uploads the newest copy to their server
> when you have closed that file.
> So the photos are physically on my hard drive at all times.
>
> I have my dropbox folder set up as it's own collection in DK.
>
I assume it is a Local Collection, not a network share or removable drive
style of collection? Do you use dropbox across multiple machines or just as a
backup service for a single machine?

umm. I installed dropbox on my computer, and DK see files normally. With DK
open, if i copy files into the dropbox/photos directory on my local machine, DK
picks up the changes straightaway.

your distribution runs enlightenment as an environment, correct? I wonder if
there are some programs that are not running that are necessary for monitoring
files. I know KDE has a million programs needed for communication between
programs. I would test by installing and running KDE, then try to use DK w/
dropbox within KDE, perhaps file monitoring will work then. I could be totally
off-base on this. Since i wasn't able to reproduce your problem, i'm only
guessing at a solution.

Although you do see new files in other folders appear in DK that are not in
dropbox, right? It is puzzling.  

>
> Is there an "easy" way I can install the latest stable version of DK?
> I've been using linux for almost a year now, but still consider myself a
> newbie.
>
i don't believe i can be much help here, i am not familiar with your distro,
and i run DK from its source code. which means i am running a recent version
of digikam (not v2.4) so its possible that a bug has been squashed relating to
this behavior.

> Oh and even with going down a version, it still looks like it stops
> about 39% into scanning for new images.
>
ugh, i guess it isn't your day. sorry we can't be more helpful.

cheers,
 - b

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Kim
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I tried Philips  "extra" ppa, but I couldn't get it to install DK 2.9.

I found this on Ask Ubuntu
http://askubuntu.com/questions/191765/dependancies-not-met-while-instaling-digikam-2-9
I installed the last ppa suggested
http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu
That updated a crazy amount of things on my pc, and upgraded me to DK
2.8.  Still trying for 2.9!! LOL

Anyway after doing this I opened DK again, it still does not find the
newer folders/files.  Telling it to scan for new images still stops at
39%.  Could it be a database problem?

Kim

On 01/18/2013 03:47 PM, Larry wrote:
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> You need ro look for Philip Johnson's ppa. I think you will also nees
> jis extras ppa to get all correct libraries. I don't use ubuntu so
> unfortunately can't give you exaxt details
>
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Ubuntu is always very late to produce new versions. That's why I switched for Fedora several years ago, especially to get more quickly new versions for Digikam and Scribus at the time, and also Darktable nowadays.
Ubuntu is too huge a machine...

Marie-Noëlle

2013/1/18 Kim <[hidden email]>
Yes I'm realizing that now, but I can't figure out how to get the 2.9 installed.  The only one in the package manager (ubuntu 12.04) is 2.4.1.  I don't understand why it is so far behind the current version....
I'm searching for another way to install it, but I'm not having much luck so far. :(

Kim



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