[Bug 241847] New: Possibility to pre-mark images for deletion

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[Bug 241847] New: Possibility to pre-mark images for deletion

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           Summary: Possibility to pre-mark images for deletion
           Product: digikam
           Version: 0.6.2
          Platform: Unlisted Binaries
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: wishlist
          Priority: NOR
         Component: general
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        ReportedBy: [hidden email]


Version:           0.6.2
OS:                Linux

Wish: Kind of a trashbin symbol for images to mark them and delete them all at
once when ready.

Use case: When sorting bad images out I often tag them as «to delete». When I'm
done I usually review the images I intend to delete, just to make sure there is
no image I unintendedly tagged, perhaps tag some more images. When I feel okay
with the images I want to keep I go to the tags view and delete all tagged
images.

As this is not a rare scenario (deleting bad images) I propose to add a feature
that supports this workflow:
* Pre-mark images for the trashbin
* Highlight the marked images in a special way
* Display all marked images
* Remove mark of marked images
* Delete marked images

Reproducible: Always




OS: Linux (x86_64) release 2.6.34-0.slh.9-sidux-amd64
Compiler: cc

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[Bug 241847] Possibility to pre-mark images for deletion

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--- Comment #1 from Fri13 <friiduh gmail com>  2010-06-15 22:12:18 ---
I can understand the point but I have never liked the idea to tag photos with
tag "delete-photo" or similar.

I have found best way to delete bad photos after the rating.
First thing what I do after the import is that I start rating photos. I just
simply start from first one and I use space (and shift+space) and CTRL+1 to 5
keys for rating. Ctrl+0 for removing rating (that I have been thinking to be
moved to Ctrl+§ key (the one on left of 1) so it would be easier).

The optimal state in photo management is that every photo is at least rated,
better if every photo is tagged with even the basic metadata like place or
subject (weddings, party, birthday etc). With the date it is easy to find
photos and when 0.10 brought better GPS support, it is easy to find location as
well (I have mapped Ctrl+G shortcut for it, it is then easy. But not as easy as
it will come when you just drop photos to map position).

After I have gone trough all the photos what I just imported, I have photos
with different ratings. Example of 700 photos import from the day I would get:

1 rating 300
2 rating 140
3 rating 70
4 rating 35
5 rating 7
0 rating all the rest.

After that I can very easily just right click the rating filter in bottom and
select "equals" and when I have no rating set, I only get non-rated photos what
are the bad ones.

This way I only get photos what I can actually use some point. The hard part is
to learn how to actually give low (1-2) ratings and high (4-5) ratings well. On
me, it toke few times to actually learn enough criticism to learn the way. But
I keep very basic things in my mind when rating:

1 = subject is sharp or someway it tells something what sharp photos does not

2 = subject is sharp and and photo is good but it has no special happening
(people are not smiling, they are not discussing or the "spirit" is is lame) or
exposure is littlebit over/under.

3 = subject is sharp, there is somekind action in photos what can be shown to
others, exposure is good.

4 = subject is sharp, there is action what is someway special. The composition
is good and exposure is correct.

5 = subject is sharp, there is action, the composition is perfect and exposure
is perfect.

And after the rating, when the rating filter is set to "equals", you can simply
go trough all the ratings from 1 to 5 and check the bottom left corner how many
photos did you actually rate with the rating. If there is somekind un-balance
like there is 10% rating 1 and 60% rating 5, there is something wrong ;-)

In good management, you get only the 5% of photos with rating 5. They are such
what you can show anytime to anyone. With no problems.

The hard part with rating is as well that we can think rating photos just by
the case by case. Like every importing session. But even better when we can
rate photos keeping mind all the other photos in the collection. So if we
select photos from 5 albums where is together the 1500 photos, we get with
rating 5 only a 30 photos. That works well if the per-import rating is done
with good criticism.

In the end, when you want to show your shots. You can simply set advanced
search to pickup only photos of rating 4-5 and then wanted tags/albums/date and
you would get very good set of photos what gives you a good start even for
editing photos or especially starting a slideshow where the time of the
slideshow is about 4-6 minutes. Point is, when the rating is done well, you get
rid off the worse photos what you can not use at all. But it works as well the
base for all work what later will be done.

The "no-rating" should be tought as the information what says "photo has no
merit to exist even on my backups"

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--- Comment #2 from Simon <simon eu gmail com>  2010-08-21 10:21:31 ---
Thanks for your answers! I didn't know about Ctrl+Num before yet. This really
helped me now.

Ctrl+§: Would be great, but is it possible to support different keyboard
layouts?

I've rated my photos for some years but then stopped it. I found that it wasn't
worth the effort in my case; 1. because I don't diashow my photos and, more
important, 2. because I often found myself re-rating pictures because I changed
my mind about the importance of the content or just because I became better and
didn't like the old pictures anymore.

So I've deleted all pictures with rating 1 (and perhaps soon the ones with 2 as
well). And the one-star-rating is my new «not worth keeping» tag.

What I still do is tagging the pictures (or adding a caption) because I can
search for text. And delete as many as possible because there are only few I
really want to take a look at again later.

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--- Comment #3 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2011-02-10 20:21:05 ---
Hi all in this entry.

Following my comment here :
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152424#c77

...i will work on "Pick Label" feature for 2.0.0 release, after to have
completed "Color Label" feature.

Gilles Caulier

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--- Comment #4 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2011-02-10 20:25:26 ---
Marcel,

For "Pick Label" feature, i plan to do exactly the same thing than for "Color
Label", excepted the mark to apply over icon-view. For this, i don't have found
the right solution. All suggestions are welcome...

The "Pick Label" is a mark to apply on items to identify which images to
reject, to accept, or still in pending validation in the workflow.

Of course, we can use Color Label for this task, but after to have seen a demo
of this feature under Aperture, i think it's better to have a dedicated mark
for a validation workflow, against Tags, Color Label, or Rating.

Gilles Caulier

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--- Comment #5 from Marcel Wiesweg <marcel wiesweg gmx de>  2011-02-10 20:49:08 ---
Sounds fine. You are unsure about the graphical representation of this mark in
the UI?

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--- Comment #6 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2011-02-10 22:03:39 ---
Marcel,

Yes. We need probably another icon view item overlay. But which representation
to do do to be explicit...

I will take a look how other program manage this feature in GUI

Gilles

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--- Comment #7 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2011-02-11 12:01:36 ---
Adobe LightRoom "Pick Label" :

From this article :

http://www.digital-photography-school.com/choosing-images-using-survey-view-in-lightroom

...look this screen-shot where "flags" are "Pick Label" :

http://digital-photography-school.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Survey-view-in-Lightroom-3-tm.jpg

I don't like this solution to annotate icon-view items, because it's not very
visible. A rejected/non-rejected image must be highlighted better.

Gilles Caulier

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--- Comment #8 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2011-02-11 12:41:16 ---
Apple Aperture "Pick Label" :

From this article :

http://aperture.maccreate.com/2010/02/15/flagging-and-labeling-photos-video-and-audio-in-aperture-3/

...look this screen-shot where "flags" are also "Pick Label", as LightRoom :

http://aperture.maccreate.com/files/2010/02/media_1256598825009.png

I don't like this solution to annotate icon-view items, which is very similar
than LightRoom...

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--- Comment #9 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2011-02-11 12:45:49 ---
Apple Aperture "Pick Label" :

From this documentation :

http://bibblelabs.com/products/bibble5/learn/webhelp/index.html?labels_ratings_and_tags.html

We can see that Bibble use a similar way than Aperture and Lightroom to apply
Pick Label on the left side of rating stars from icon-view.

Again, i don't like this solution : not enough visible...

Gilles Caulier

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--- Comment #10 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2011-02-14 18:17:42 ---
Wake up guy... I need you viewpoint here...

I started to implement "Pick Labels" feature. There will 4 pick labels
available :

1 Image not tagged with a pick
2 Image rejected (for future deletion)
3 Image in pending validation (typically not yet checked)
4 Image accepted (verified and valided)

On icon view 2/3/4 will show a colored flag (2 => red, 3 => yellow, and 4 =>
green)

For each value, i need to know the best Keyboard shorcut to use. Here, i need
your experience with other photo management programs

Thanks in advance

Gilles Caulier

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--- Comment #11 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2011-02-15 13:28:45 ---
Git commit 5bad4b49f67ad9fb8dc3482128737892cb003f5d by Gilles Caulier.
Committed on 15/02/2011 at 13:26.
Pushed by cgilles into branch 'development/2.0'.

register internal pick label tags name
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M  +22   -2    libs/database/databaseconstants.cpp    
M  +5    -0    libs/database/databaseconstants.h    

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--- Comment #12 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2011-02-15 13:36:46 ---
Git commit b95f618ac7e63a24f7e55aa0c6f24893f61580f1 by Gilles Caulier.
Committed on 15/02/2011 at 13:34.
Pushed by cgilles into branch 'development/2.0'.

2 new methods to handle Pick Label information from digiKam XMP namespace
CCBUGS: 241847

M  +55   -0    libs/dmetadata/dmetadata.cpp    
M  +3    -0    libs/dmetadata/dmetadata.h    

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--- Comment #13 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2011-02-15 14:15:22 ---
Git commit 2c79ad8156efb20f95cb09b8c003c1ceaa366f92 by Gilles Caulier.
Committed on 15/02/2011 at 14:00.
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register internal Pick Label tags to database
CCBUGS: 241847

M  +34   -10   libs/database/tagscache.cpp    
M  +12   -0    libs/database/tagscache.h    

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                   |                            |images for deletion (Pick
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--- Comment #14 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2011-02-15 14:24:22 ---
Git commit 367a372f720f8a57cee8065275c7db60543a9a1b by Gilles Caulier.
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Pushed by cgilles into branch 'development/2.0'.

manage Pick Label settings from Metadata Config panel

M  +3    -0    libs/dmetadata/metadatasettingscontainer.cpp
M  +1    -0    libs/dmetadata/metadatasettingscontainer.h
M  +10   -0    utilities/setup/setupmetadata.cpp

http://commits.kde.org/digikam/367a372f720f8a57cee8065275c7db60543a9a1b

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--- Comment #15 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2011-02-15 14:44:13 ---
Git commit 110e0c0c65478b82983dc6a474ab2f5a8fd4aeae by Gilles Caulier.
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manage Pick Label into ImageInfo container
CCBUGS: 241847

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M  +53   -0    libs/database/imageinfo.cpp    
M  +11   -2    libs/database/imageinfo.h    
M  +6    -0    libs/database/imageinfocache.cpp    
M  +2    -0    libs/database/imageinfodata.h    

http://commits.kde.org/digikam/110e0c0c65478b82983dc6a474ab2f5a8fd4aeae

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--- Comment #16 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2011-02-15 15:48:24 ---
Git commit c75c9eead135cf4fc111c97dd598c808e31abbb4 by Gilles Caulier.
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show Pick Label icon over icon view items
CCBUGS: 241847

M  +4    -1    digikam/imagedelegate.cpp    
M  +30   -1    libs/widgets/common/itemviewimagedelegate.cpp    
M  +1    -0    libs/widgets/common/itemviewimagedelegate.h    

http://commits.kde.org/digikam/c75c9eead135cf4fc111c97dd598c808e31abbb4

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--- Comment #17 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2011-02-15 16:07:31 ---
Git commit c88a02969316eefd57e7a66bf1cb978fb41cbe5a by Gilles Caulier.
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metadata hub is able to play with Pick Label info
CCBUGS: 241847

M  +80   -5    digikam/metadatahub.cpp    
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[Bug 241847] Workflow organizing : Possibility to pre-mark images for deletion (Pick Labels feature)

Gilles Caulier-4
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=241847





--- Comment #18 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2011-02-15 16:43:36 ---
Git commit 8b85b7ccbb1fe362de925efa713362b70ad5494e by Gilles Caulier.
Committed on 15/02/2011 at 16:41.
Pushed by cgilles into branch 'development/2.0'.

Cpation & Tags view is now able to apply Pick Label to items
CCBUGS: 241847

M  +53   -2    libs/imageproperties/imagedescedittab.cpp    
M  +3    -0    libs/imageproperties/imagedescedittab.h    
M  +20   -20   libs/widgets/common/picklabelwidget.cpp    

http://commits.kde.org/digikam/8b85b7ccbb1fe362de925efa713362b70ad5494e

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