[Bug 114465] New: Wish: simpler entry of tags

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           Summary: Wish: simpler entry of tags
           Product: digikam
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: Gentoo Packages
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: NOR
         Component: general
        AssignedTo: digikam-devel kde org
        ReportedBy: kde foxcub org


Version:            (using KDE KDE 3.4.1)
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It would be nice if it was possible to enter tags directly by typing (instead of clicking checkboxes), naturally, with autocompletion properly utilized.

It would be even better if it was possible to do from the Image Editor directly (i.e., without opening an extra window). For example, one could bring up a textbox at the bottom of the screen (below the image) where one could enter words that would be recorded as tags when one went on to the next image.
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------- Additional Comments From deech raketnet nl  2005-11-15 11:22 -------
hmmmmm, something like f-spot will have in the next version: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/weblog.php/Photos/Tags.php

I think this could work!
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------- Additional Comments From m.spring gmx de  2006-01-20 16:56 -------
Former kimdaba (now kphotoalbum) resolves this in an almost unimprovable way:

* you can completely configure your entry window, fields, sizes etc.
* Keyboard entry as well as mouse selection, but keyboard is much faster
* last recently used sort order for keywords as well as alphabetic sort order

I have to admit that this feature alone makes me switch forward and backward between digikam and kphotoalbum. But digikam has the better viewer.
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------- Additional Comments From m.spring gmx de  2006-02-23 21:13 -------
An intermediate step could be the auto-generation of shortcuts for existing keywords, like selection of landscape in the keyword selection process through pressing 'l' or 'alt-l'. A second keypress of 'l' could select the next keyword starting with 'l' on the same level and so on.
Ideally you wouldn't have to touch the mouse after starting the keyword-adding action.
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------- Additional Comments From koerner in tu-clausthal de  2006-04-03 11:19 -------
Another simple (and easy to implement) way to add tags within ImageEditor or digikam would be to add a simple shotcut to a Tag.

I use digikam to sort and order prints from my photos. In imageEditor it would be nice to press a shortcut like F8 which assigns the tag...
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------- Additional Comments From jens-bugs.kde.org spamfreemail de  2006-06-25 00:47 -------
I'm all for free tagging. It has become so popular with blogs and online magazines and it _is_ the easiest way of doing this, combined with autocompletion and adding tags via "free typing" (in the image editor).

Plus, it saves a whole lot of GUI clutter in the main Digikam interface. And the tags can even be saved in appropriate EXIF/IPTC fields.

Jens
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------- Additional Comments From mkosmul users sourceforge net  2006-09-03 12:18 -------
Still, I think the nested tags as used by digikam today should still be available. Freeform tags make it easy to accidentally create a new tag by mistyping the name of an existing one. Additionally, in a complicated tag hierarchy like the one I use, it is common for the 'leaf' nodes of the tree to have non-unique names. Since they are sub-tags of different tags, they are still distinguishable. With several hundred tags, having a hierarchy is, in my opinion, a very good thing.
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------- Additional Comments From kde foxcub org  2006-09-03 18:35 -------
One doesn't contradict the other. You can have both the hierarchy and a freeform entry, with the latter helping the former. With proper autocompletion, the problem of accidentally creating a new tag would go away (if after typing a couple of characters, one could press down and have the correct tag, I don't think anyone would try to type the whole thing and mistype it in the process). Having the parent's name listed in parenthesis after the tag name during autocompletion would solve the problem of multiple tags in the hierarchy having the same name.

In short, I think one is an issue of internal structure, and the other one is a user-interface issue, and they don't hinder each other in any way. In addition I still think that lack of freeform tag entry is currently the biggest weakness of Digikam.
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------- Additional Comments From lure kubuntu org  2006-12-25 20:42 -------
I like last proposal, which is very similar to KMail's move to folder feature. When you browse e-mails in KMail, you can just press "m" key and start typing the name of folder - you get the list of folders with matching name with full hierarchy and you can use arrow keys + Enter to navigate the list and select the folder to move e-mail to.
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------- Additional Comments From mikmach wp pl  2007-01-09 20:00 -------
This is often repeated wish. Creation of new tags by menu/dialog is too complicated. Even entering strings like places/city/street (three levels down) is faster then working with menu/dialog.

Main issue (IMO) is space in sidebar. Adding new inputfield would make this place really crowded. Solution could be making current Search inputfield two-state with choosing of mode with combo.
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------- Additional Comments From dbera.web gmail com  2007-01-09 20:52 -------
Everytime I open digikam my desire for better tagging support increases. So much that I thought of doing it myself.

This was what I was aiming at: fast tagging would be useful in icon view. So, when some icon is selected, and the user presses '/', an input box opens up below the picture in the icon. It shows the already assigned tags separated by comma. Enter new tags, separated by comma. There has to be some kind of autocompletion - maybe a dropdown autocompletion box.

(The sad part is after looking at the source files, its looks like a bit non-trivial to implement. But its definitely in my long tooooooodo list.)
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------- Additional Comments From doughy.junk gmail com  2007-05-04 08:05 -------
I like digiKam, but it's major shortcoming in my mind, is the inability to handle a large set of tags. I tag everything. If I have a picture of John riding a sailboat in hawaii, I will tag it as "John, Hawaii, sailboat, beach, etc.." After a certain amount of photos, there are so many tags in the system that the tag menus become useless. In digikam, the tag menu is so big it won't even fit on my monitor. Tags are basically useless to users that use a very large set of tags. It works if I tag all my photos as "people, places, things" but I think many people out there use tags in a more specific and detailed way.

I want to be able to do a keyboard shortcut, have it pull up a list of keywords that the selected picture contains, and add/edit/delete them easily. It shouldn't pull up the global list of keywords in my opinion. This is how picasa does it, and it is very powerful from an organizational point of view.
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------- Additional Comments From harshad.sharma gmail com  2007-05-04 15:32 -------
If for some reason, 12 comments isn't enough sample from the community, I'd like to add one more...

I have been used to annotating my photographs. I also use IPTC tags: creator, copyright, location, city, state, country, headline/title, description and of course loads of keywords.

I had been trying to switch my workflow to completely open source software for a long time. Finally, after DigiKam 0.9, I took the decision and the plunge... it has been a fantastic experience so far. I feel much more 'at home' with PCBSD/FreeBSD and KDE... DigiKam is fantastic... with a few quirks that are tolerable. But it seems that DigiKam just doesn't want me to actually do anything useful with keywords!

First of all - the tags list is populated with hundreds of my original tags - and it is IMPOSSIBLE to select more than one and move them around - so I can't really get myself to set it up in hierarchy. Moreover - it is again very very difficult to tag a complete photo shoot withing 10 minutes because every time I want to select a specific tag, I have to first search for it... then click on the little checkbox to enable it. When a complete shoot will need about 10 common keywords and each set of photos might need another 10 individual keywords... this UI is cumbersome and unrealistic to get things done.

Freeform tagging means a lot to me. I'm installing KPhotoAlbum as I type this (got reference from a post above) only because I have this OCD for keywording all my photographs.

I really wish that the developers are able to find some time to work on this!  And I'm writing all this not because I'm pissed... but because You Rock! And you can do it! :-D
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------- Additional Comments From bradford.powell gmail com  2007-11-12 02:16 -------
Another feature request along the lines of "make tagging easier"...

I find that I often use a subset of all of my tags for any given tagging session. For instance, I may have a set of photos from my son's birthday party, so first I go through and tag them all with "birthday" and "party", but then I'm down to a set of 8 or so people in varying combinations. It would be excellent to have a panel of tags in current use, ideally associated with keyboard shortcuts lie F1-F12 or Alt-1 through Alt-0. That way, as I go through the photos I could easily add those tags.

Another refinement would be to have an option to auto-populate that list with the most commonly used tags.
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------- Additional Comments From arnd.baecker web de  2007-11-12 08:57 -------
Yes, I love this idea! It very much corresponds to the way I do the tagging
right now. Tagging is done  on a per album basis and
each album groups around one "event", like a birthday party, a hike,
a day at the beach or in town etc.

Each event has a typical cluster of tags which are appropriate.
Therefore it would be nice if for each situation a  (pre-selected)
collection of tags (or parts of the tag-tree) could be chosen.

- Where to put such a "Tags collection" in the GUI?
  Maybe it could be added as another TAB in the "comments/tags" sidebar?
  On the other hand, it might be better to have as much space
  as possible so that no scrolling is necessary.
  Therefore maybe another window, below the icon view, would be better,
  which could display several different tags collections
  (see the attempt of a mock-up in the following attachment)?
  Another option is to have a fully separate window in
  which the tagging is done (not sure if I like this that much).

  As usual, it is not obvious how to get this right ... ;-)

- How to populate such tags collections?
  a) Maybe the easiest is to start from one album whose images have been
     tagged and then just say:
     "Make a tag collection out of all present tags"
  b) adding a new tag (in the usual way) would automatically
     add it to the active collection    
  c) Creating a tag collection from scratch,
     item by item, should be possible as well.
  d) Then there might be some super-intelligent pre-creation
     of tag-collections, which does a statistical analysis of
     all the tags combinations in existing albums and out
     of this magically identifies the most common clusters...
     (could be a nice Google Summer of Code project ;-).

Of course, the before disussed free-form entry of tags should
be possible as well. I.e., I don't see these ways of adding tags
as excluding each other.

(Keyboard shortcuts might be more difficult, as the simple ones
like Function keys etc. are already in use. <asbestos suit on>On the other hand,
we haven't used any emacs style keyboard shortcuts yet ;=)<asbestos suit off>)

Best, Arnd
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Created an attachment (id=22037)
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attempt of a mock-up of a possible layout for tags collections
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