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Giles, thanks for taking the time to respond to my post. It's pretty
much as I thought, and I do understand, although I've not a clue about libraries and compiling and such matters. Here is what I don't understand: 1. Why the KDE underpinnings. It's not just us Win-doze users experiencing problems, it seems that LInux users do, too. Perhaps I'm misremembering. There are plenty of multi-platform programs out there that aren't locked into what I think of as that KDE nightmare. I'm going to guess that KDE is where you started and now you are locked in. 2. As Windows has some 15-20 times the users at the desktop level, I would think that you would want a good Windows version. Of course, I've seen enough Linux pride to understand that might not be the case. Or, just not enough time to support all those potential Windows users. That, I certainly do understand. I guess I"ll run the 1.7 until it's hair gets gray, or see if the KDE Windows team updates sometime this century and swallow all the crammed down apps that comes with it. I just trundled over to the KDE for Windows site and true to form, not a clue about digiKam updates since February 2010, IIRC. No search function, either. Sigh. Best to all, Paul _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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2011/5/22 Paul Verizzo <[hidden email]>:
> Giles, thanks for taking the time to respond to my post. It's pretty > much as I thought, and I do understand, although I've not a clue about > libraries and compiling and such matters. Here is what I don't understand: > > 1. Why the KDE underpinnings. It's not just us Win-doze users > experiencing problems, it seems that LInux users do, too. Perhaps I'm > misremembering. There are plenty of multi-platform programs out there > that aren't locked into what I think of as that KDE nightmare. I'm > going to guess that KDE is where you started and now you are locked in. Well, digiKam depand indeep of a lots of KDE Libraries and KDE runtime program (to run KIOSlave for ex.) Also, KDE and digiKam depand of Qt4 + other exta libs, as libpng, libjpeg, libtiff, libxml, libxslt, libjasper, etc... You can image the puzzle... Currently, to build windows version, KDE windows packages are require. To improve it, all KDE/Qt/shared libs must be build as well by hand, as it done under MACOSX with macport project. This will optimize a lots the size of whole windows package > > 2. As Windows has some 15-20 times the users at the desktop level, I > would think that you would want a good Windows version. Of course, I've > seen enough Linux pride to understand that might not be the case. Or, > just not enough time to support all those potential Windows users. > That, I certainly do understand. This is the problem. A team is dedicated to do it, but... Gilles Caulier _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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I haven't looked at the Digikam website for a while, but I think there should be something on there to warn potential Windows users not to expect regular releases. It's a good program, good enough to make people commit a lot of time to it after they first intall it, but the Windows version doesn't have the level of support to justify it, in my opinion.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Verizzo [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 12:59 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Digikam-users] re Windows version > > Giles, thanks for taking the time to respond to my post. It's pretty > much as I thought, and I do understand, although I've not a > clue about > libraries and compiling and such matters. Here is what I > don't understand: > > 1. Why the KDE underpinnings. It's not just us Win-doze users > experiencing problems, it seems that LInux users do, too. > Perhaps I'm > misremembering. There are plenty of multi-platform programs > out there > that aren't locked into what I think of as that KDE nightmare. I'm > going to guess that KDE is where you started and now you are > locked in. > > 2. As Windows has some 15-20 times the users at the desktop level, I > would think that you would want a good Windows version. Of > course, I've > seen enough Linux pride to understand that might not be the > case. Or, > just not enough time to support all those potential Windows users. > That, I certainly do understand. > > I guess I"ll run the 1.7 until it's hair gets gray, or see if the KDE > Windows team updates sometime this century and swallow all > the crammed > down apps that comes with it. I just trundled over to the KDE for > Windows site and true to form, not a clue about digiKam updates since > February 2010, IIRC. No search function, either. Sigh. > > Best to all, > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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I think windows.kde.org´s team don´t have enough interest in digiKam. Otherwise, they would update their installer with the new versions of dK.
Also, is tedious to have to carry with 1 Gb burden of low level educative and games programs for installing dK in windows.
It is quite a pity!
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I agree with you. A lots of bunch are installed in parallel. But indeep it's not digiKam problem, it's windows installer problem.
I'm not agree with your viewpoint. The interrest in KDE team about digiKam exist, and this is why 1.7.0 packages have been created. To make windows packages is simple, but take a while, especially if code do not compile : patches need to be written. But for digiKam it's not the case, because I MAINTAIN myself whole digiKam source code under Win7 with MINGW and VISUALC++ compilers. digiKam compile fine as well. this want mean that KDE team just need to run package script, and that all. Currently i just finish to compile digiKam software compilation 2.0.0 beta6 on my laptop (win7 MSVC2008), and all is fine. It run as expected, with KDELibs bugs of course. If somebody feel to be a digiKam contributor, not as developer, but as windows packager, i can guide him in this task. I'm developer, not packager. I cannot do all... Gilles Caulier 2011/5/23 [hidden email] <[hidden email]> I think windows.kde.org´s team don´t have enough interest in digiKam. Otherwise, they would update their installer with the new versions of dK. Also, is tedious to have to carry with 1 Gb burden of low level educative and games programs for installing dK in windows. It is quite a pity! _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>
wrote in news:BANLkTimGm-Qw73j4njqxDZz=N4ViRtP2=[hidden email]: > Currently i just finish to compile digiKam software compilation 2.0.0 > beta6 on my laptop (win7 MSVC2008), and all is fine. It run as > expected, with KDELibs bugs of course. > > If somebody feel to be a digiKam contributor, not as developer, but as > windows packager, i can guide him in this task. I'm developer, not > packager. I cannot do all... > Gilles: What would be involved in compiling digikam on Microsoft Windows? Is the required Windows software free, by that, I mean MSVC? I am not a programmer but I have done some compiling of software on Solaris and Linux computers. Thanks. -- Frank Hahn _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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2011/5/25 Frank Hahn <[hidden email]> http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/misc.tarballs/temp/digiKam-installer-2.0.0-beta6-win32.exeGilles Caulier <[hidden email]> It require compiler (here MSVC 2008 pro, but free charge of use version can be used) Qt4, KDE4, and other shared libs must be compiled and installed on your computer using this compiler. Personnaly, i use all of them using KDE installer. I compile only digiKAm Software Compilation myself. That all. If you want to try 2.0.0-beta6, look here : Best Gilles Caulier _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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