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"I think one of the advantages of Linux is that it plays well with others. Getting Windows to read ext3 HDD's is a pain, Linux will read anything." Ummmmm......it wasn't but a few years ago that NTFS was a complete mystery to Linux. First, read capabilities, later, write. A major step forward. "Hi Paul, Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience. First time I here about WUBI. I understand it intalls Ubuntu under windows. Few questions: Does it give you a native ubuntu started from within windows, or does it run on top of windows? Are your drives mounted or mountable as they are in native ubuntu? Does digikam run without trouble? Can you use existing db? Rinus" Hi, it runs native on NTFS as a dual boot. I appear to have been confused (too many Linux installs lately!) about mounting my NTFS partitions w/o issue. It shows my D:500_DATA perfectly, as is, in the menu. However, my C:WINDOWS_OS partition doesn't. My error. It does show in the Host folder of the Linux directories. However, I am so far unable to get it to share with me, saying I don't own it. "OF COURSE I DO!!! I own the computer, I'm the only one using it, blah blah!" :) I get a message that I'm supposed to type something somewhere. Another Linux secret handshake head banger. Digikam runs w/o trouble, I think. Since I can't "own" my C:\ partition which is where my database is, I can't say with certainty. I won't extensively try it until I can do that. No reason it shouldn't. I'm sure if I ever get that ownership issue resolved......and I think it's a Wubi thing, not seen in native Ubuntu, IIRC, it will be fine. Paul _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Op 07-09-11 19:38, Paul Verizzo schreef:
> > "I think one of the advantages of Linux is that it plays well with > others. Getting Windows to read ext3 HDD's is a pain, Linux will read > anything." > > Ummmmm......it wasn't but a few years ago that NTFS was a complete > mystery to Linux. First, read capabilities, later, write. A major > step forward. > > "Hi Paul, > > Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience. First time I here > about WUBI. I understand it intalls Ubuntu under windows. > Few questions: > Does it give you a native ubuntu started from within windows, or does > it run on top of windows? > Are your drives mounted or mountable as they are in native ubuntu? > Does digikam run without trouble? > Can you use existing db? > Rinus" > > Hi, it runs native on NTFS as a dual boot. I appear to have been > confused (too many Linux installs lately!) about mounting my NTFS > partitions w/o issue. It shows my D:500_DATA perfectly, as is, in the > menu. have usually no issues with moving my db around, just telling digikarc where I left it. If you want to try I can give more specific info. Probably no big deal to put it on D. Rinus > > However, my C:WINDOWS_OS partition doesn't. My error. It does show > in the Host folder of the Linux directories. However, I am so far > unable to get it to share with me, saying I don't own it. "OF COURSE I > DO!!! I own the computer, I'm the only one using it, blah blah!" :) > > I get a message that I'm supposed to type something somewhere. Another > Linux secret handshake head banger. > > Digikam runs w/o trouble, I think. Since I can't "own" my C:\ > partition which is where my database is, I can't say with certainty. I > won't extensively try it until I can do that. No reason it shouldn't. > > I'm sure if I ever get that ownership issue resolved......and I think > it's a Wubi thing, not seen in native Ubuntu, IIRC, it will be fine. > Paul > > > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Le Wed, 07 Sep 2011 19:38:16 +0200, Paul Verizzo <[hidden email]> a écrit:
> > "I think one of the advantages of Linux is that it plays well with > others. Getting Windows to read ext3 HDD's is a pain, Linux will read > anything." > > Ummmmm......it wasn't but a few years ago that NTFS was a complete > mystery to Linux. First, read capabilities, later, write. A major step > forward. If you think with a minimum of honesty, you have to recognize it's not the same thing to support a proprietary technology and an open one. NTFS is a proprietary tech, so it's understandable it takes some times to be supported by Linux... Traditional Linux Filesystems are mainly "opensourced", so it would be easy for Microsoft to support it, but it never does that. And now tell me where there's something wrong ? > > "Hi Paul, > > Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience. First time I here about > WUBI. I understand it intalls Ubuntu under windows. > Few questions: > Does it give you a native ubuntu started from within windows, or does it > run on top of windows? > Are your drives mounted or mountable as they are in native ubuntu? > Does digikam run without trouble? > Can you use existing db? > Rinus" > > Hi, it runs native on NTFS as a dual boot. I appear to have been > confused (too many Linux installs lately!) about mounting my NTFS > partitions w/o issue. It shows my D:500_DATA perfectly, as is, in the > menu. > > However, my C:WINDOWS_OS partition doesn't. My error. It does show in > the Host folder of the Linux directories. However, I am so far unable > to get it to share with me, saying I don't own it. "OF COURSE I DO!!! I > own the computer, I'm the only one using it, blah blah!" :) I don't know Wubi, so I don't know how Wubi use partition, but NTFS filesystem comport some information about owner and permission, so it's not easy as with FAT32 filesystem, you may have some options to define if you want to use NTFS. In the other hand, I don't really understand what is the problem with Virtualbox since the only thing you need is to set shared folders in Virtualbox parameters and access them by network share on guest system. -- Nicolas Boulesteix Photographe chasseur de lueurs http://www.photonoxx.fr _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Op 07-09-11 20:01, Photonoxx schreef:
> Le Wed, 07 Sep 2011 19:38:16 +0200, Paul Verizzo <[hidden email]> a > écrit: > >> >> "I think one of the advantages of Linux is that it plays well with >> others. Getting Windows to read ext3 HDD's is a pain, Linux will read >> anything." >> >> Ummmmm......it wasn't but a few years ago that NTFS was a complete >> mystery to Linux. First, read capabilities, later, write. A major >> step forward. > > If you think with a minimum of honesty, you have to recognize it's not > the same thing to support a proprietary technology and an open one. > > NTFS is a proprietary tech, so it's understandable it takes some times > to be supported by Linux... > > Traditional Linux Filesystems are mainly "opensourced", so it would be > easy for Microsoft to support it, but it never does that. > > And now tell me where there's something wrong ? > >> >> "Hi Paul, >> >> Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience. First time I here >> about WUBI. I understand it intalls Ubuntu under windows. >> Few questions: >> Does it give you a native ubuntu started from within windows, or does >> it run on top of windows? >> Are your drives mounted or mountable as they are in native ubuntu? >> Does digikam run without trouble? >> Can you use existing db? >> Rinus" >> >> Hi, it runs native on NTFS as a dual boot. I appear to have been >> confused (too many Linux installs lately!) about mounting my NTFS >> partitions w/o issue. It shows my D:500_DATA perfectly, as is, in the >> menu. >> >> However, my C:WINDOWS_OS partition doesn't. My error. It does show in >> the Host folder of the Linux directories. However, I am so far unable >> to get it to share with me, saying I don't own it. "OF COURSE I DO!!! >> I own the computer, I'm the only one using it, blah blah!" :) > > I don't know Wubi, so I don't know how Wubi use partition, but NTFS > filesystem comport some information about owner and permission, so > it's not easy as with FAT32 filesystem, you may have some options to > define if you want to use NTFS. > > In the other hand, I don't really understand what is the problem with > Virtualbox since the only thing you need is to set shared folders in > Virtualbox parameters and access them by network share on guest system. Hi photonoxx, There are so many combinations of different virtual box versions, linux versions, hardware and so on and so further that you can not assume that if something works on system x it should do it necessarily on system y too. If you think that there is one procedure for us all and say ,as some others too, ¨it´s easy¨, well show us how, a lot of people have trouble with it, maybe it could help if you give us a detailed instruction. Doing as oracle virtual box says: ¨mount -t vboxsf something somewhere¨ does not result in an fully accessible drive. Maybe the makers of VirtualBox have not a good understanding of Linux. Rinus > -- > Nicolas Boulesteix > Photographe chasseur de lueurs > http://www.photonoxx.fr > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Sorry, I didn't notice I just answer to Rinus mail... So I forward the
message on DK ML. ------- Message réexpédié------- De: A: Sujet: Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:38:02 +0200 Hi Rinus, I don't often run Virtualbox on a Windows host for using a Linux guest, I mostly use the opposite : Windows guest in a linux Host, and as it's works flawlessly both on my laptop and my desktop computer, I think it should be sufficiently efficient in this case. Anyway, I already try Linux guest on Windows Host, some times ago, but if I remember well, in fact you're right, Virtualbox shared folder give me some difficulties, but if I remember well to, a solution could be found in making a windows shared folder (so not in Virtualbox settings, but by using Windows folder option to share it on network workgroup). After that, it should be possible to access it using samba without major problem (by mount or by editing .etc/fstab using cifs filesystem, or by using "connect to a server" tool with "Windows share" option (sorry if it's not accurate name, it's a "from french" translated name)). I hope it could works for you. Le Wed, 07 Sep 2011 20:59:10 +0200, sleepless <[hidden email]> a écrit: > Op 07-09-11 20:01, Photonoxx schreef: >> Le Wed, 07 Sep 2011 19:38:16 +0200, Paul Verizzo <[hidden email]> a >> écrit: >> >>> >>> "I think one of the advantages of Linux is that it plays well with >>> others. Getting Windows to read ext3 HDD's is a pain, Linux will read >>> anything." >>> >>> Ummmmm......it wasn't but a few years ago that NTFS was a complete >>> mystery to Linux. First, read capabilities, later, write. A major step >>> forward. >> >> If you think with a minimum of honesty, you have to recognize it's not >> the same thing to support a proprietary technology and an open one. >> >> NTFS is a proprietary tech, so it's understandable it takes some times >> to be supported by Linux... >> >> Traditional Linux Filesystems are mainly "opensourced", so it would be >> easy for Microsoft to support it, but it never does that. >> >> And now tell me where there's something wrong ? >> >>> >>> "Hi Paul, >>> >>> Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience. First time I here >>> about WUBI. I understand it intalls Ubuntu under windows. >>> Few questions: >>> Does it give you a native ubuntu started from within windows, or does >>> it run on top of windows? >>> Are your drives mounted or mountable as they are in native ubuntu? >>> Does digikam run without trouble? >>> Can you use existing db? >>> Rinus" >>> >>> Hi, it runs native on NTFS as a dual boot. I appear to have been >>> confused (too many Linux installs lately!) about mounting my NTFS >>> partitions w/o issue. It shows my D:500_DATA perfectly, as is, in the >>> menu. >>> >>> However, my C:WINDOWS_OS partition doesn't. My error. It does show in >>> the Host folder of the Linux directories. However, I am so far unable >>> to get it to share with me, saying I don't own it. "OF COURSE I DO!!! >>> I own the computer, I'm the only one using it, blah blah!" :) >> > >> I don't know Wubi, so I don't know how Wubi use partition, but NTFS >> filesystem comport some information about owner and permission, so it's >> not easy as with FAT32 filesystem, you may have some options to define >> if you want to use NTFS. >> >> In the other hand, I don't really understand what is the problem with >> Virtualbox since the only thing you need is to set shared folders in >> Virtualbox parameters and access them by network share on guest system. > > Hi photonoxx, > There are so many combinations of different virtual box versions, linux > versions, hardware and so on and so further that you can not assume that > if something works on system x it should do it necessarily on system y > too. > If you think that there is one procedure for us all and say ,as some > others too, ¨it´s easy¨, well show us how, a lot of people have trouble > with it, maybe it could help if you give us a detailed instruction. > Doing as oracle virtual box says: ¨mount -t vboxsf something somewhere¨ > does not result in an fully accessible drive. Maybe the makers of > VirtualBox have not a good understanding of Linux. > > Rinus >> -- Nicolas Boulesteix >> Photographe chasseur de lueurs >> http://www.photonoxx.fr >> _______________________________________________ >> Digikam-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >> > > -- -- Nicolas Boulesteix Photographe chasseur de lueurs http://www.photonoxx.fr _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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