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I have two, a practical and a theoretical, problems with ICC profiles for digiKam 0.9.0: --- practical: I can't find any profile that works with the CR2-files from my Canon 20D. I've downloaded what I found, tried all combinations... the picture is always too dark. The Camera is set up to use sRGB. in UFraw I use it's built-in sRGB for in- and output. That works ok. But digiKam wouldn't accept any of the sRGB-profiles I found as a camera profile (it doesn't show them in the setup box of camera/input profile, they appear only in workspace/monitor setup box) Now, what can I do? - Is there a possibility to create a profile myself somehow - without making a degree as doctor-colour-space :-)) - Are there some "standard"-profiles that give acceptable results somewhere? - and: it's acceptable for professionals if digiKam requires them to learn some color management stuff (willy-nilly I'll have to go into this when I find the time), but are there any thoughts about what the "common home user" can do, who just wants to plug in his/her camera and have the photos in nice colours without getting involved in color management but nevertheless uses raw files? --- and the theoretical question: those ICC profiles I've seen are copyrighted. Are there any thoughts what happens, when one uses a profiled image-file on the web, in a photo data base, or delivered to a picture agency, and the copyright-holder doesn't like that? This possibly applies to photoshop as well, but probably they'll pay the royalties to the copyright-holders, and they are not open-source... I'm just thinking about the dvd css problems with linux... Has this already been discussed or is this question obsolete anyway? regards Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com special interest site: http://www.bauer-nudes.com _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Le Jeudi 18 Mai 2006 19:01, Daniel Bauer a écrit :
> Hello > > I have two, a practical and a theoretical, problems with ICC profiles for > digiKam 0.9.0: > --- > practical: > > I can't find any profile that works with the CR2-files from my Canon 20D. > I've downloaded what I found, tried all combinations... the picture is > always too dark. The Camera is set up to use sRGB. > > in UFraw I use it's built-in sRGB for in- and output. That works ok. But > digiKam wouldn't accept any of the sRGB-profiles I found as a camera > profile (it doesn't show them in the setup box of camera/input profile, > they appear only in workspace/monitor setup box) > > Now, what can I do? > - Is there a possibility to create a profile myself somehow - without > making a degree as doctor-colour-space :-)) > > - Are there some "standard"-profiles that give acceptable results > somewhere? yes, provided by your camera maker and published with your camera win32 application. For me, when i have built my Dynax 5D, i have just installed the Minolta DImage program on a win32 computer, get the icc files installed on the system and copied all in my linux box. All work fine like this and i'm sure that Canon, Nikon, and others major camera maker provide this ICC files. For others questions, i lets Paco (F.J Cruz) given a response (He is the digiKam Color management specialist (:=))) Gilles _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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I've a Dynax 5D as well, but once I've read that a solution could to
install the Light Edition of CaptureOne (http://www.phaseone.com/), they have several profiles.... Otherwise here I've found they sell it for 30$: http://www.etcetera.cc/pub/index.php/article/articleview/5/1/3/ --Tommaso Daniel Bauer wrote: > Hello > > I have two, a practical and a theoretical, problems with ICC profiles for > digiKam 0.9.0: > --- > practical: > > I can't find any profile that works with the CR2-files from my Canon 20D. I've > downloaded what I found, tried all combinations... the picture is always too > dark. The Camera is set up to use sRGB. > > in UFraw I use it's built-in sRGB for in- and output. That works ok. But > digiKam wouldn't accept any of the sRGB-profiles I found as a camera profile > (it doesn't show them in the setup box of camera/input profile, they appear > only in workspace/monitor setup box) > > Now, what can I do? > - Is there a possibility to create a profile myself somehow - without making a > degree as doctor-colour-space :-)) > > - Are there some "standard"-profiles that give acceptable results somewhere? > > - and: it's acceptable for professionals if digiKam requires them to learn > some color management stuff (willy-nilly I'll have to go into this when I > find the time), but are there any thoughts about what the "common home user" > can do, who just wants to plug in his/her camera and have the photos in nice > colours without getting involved in color management but nevertheless uses > raw files? > > --- > and the theoretical question: > > those ICC profiles I've seen are copyrighted. Are there any thoughts what > happens, when one uses a profiled image-file on the web, in a photo data > base, or delivered to a picture agency, and the copyright-holder doesn't like > that? This possibly applies to photoshop as well, but probably they'll pay > the royalties to the copyright-holders, and they are not open-source... I'm > just thinking about the dvd css problems with linux... Has this already been > discussed or is this question obsolete anyway? > > regards > > Daniel > > _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Le Jeudi 18 Mai 2006 19:01, Daniel Bauer a écrit :
> Hello > > I have two, a practical and a theoretical, problems with ICC profiles for > digiKam 0.9.0: > --- > practical: > > I can't find any profile that works with the CR2-files from my Canon 20D. > I've downloaded what I found, tried all combinations... the picture is > always too dark. The Camera is set up to use sRGB. > > in UFraw I use it's built-in sRGB for in- and output. That works ok. But > digiKam wouldn't accept any of the sRGB-profiles I found as a camera > profile (it doesn't show them in the setup box of camera/input profile, > they appear only in workspace/monitor setup box) > > Now, what can I do? > - Is there a possibility to create a profile myself somehow - without > making a degree as doctor-colour-space :-)) > > - Are there some "standard"-profiles that give acceptable results > somewhere? > > - and: it's acceptable for professionals if digiKam requires them to learn > some color management stuff (willy-nilly I'll have to go into this when I > find the time), but are there any thoughts about what the "common home > user" can do, who just wants to plug in his/her camera and have the photos > in nice colours without getting involved in color management but > nevertheless uses raw files? > > --- > and the theoretical question: > > those ICC profiles I've seen are copyrighted. Are there any thoughts what > happens, when one uses a profiled image-file on the web, in a photo data > base, or delivered to a picture agency, and the copyright-holder doesn't > like that? This possibly applies to photoshop as well, but probably they'll > pay the royalties to the copyright-holders, and they are not open-source... > I'm just thinking about the dvd css problems with linux... Has this already > been discussed or is this question obsolete anyway? All camera profiles are used to transform color from camera pictures, but these one aren't never saved in target image, only workspace color profile (usually sRGB). There is no trace in target image about the camera profile used to transform the original picture. There is some SRGB icc profiles in public domain witch don't require any royalties. You can use it... But i have never seen a royalties problem relevant of icc profiles. When you buy a camera, you buy the software too, and the license to use the profiles provides by the camera maker ! Gilles > > regards > > Daniel _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Daniel Bauer wrote:
> Hello > > I have two, a practical and a theoretical, problems with ICC profiles for > digiKam 0.9.0: > --- > practical: > > I can't find any profile that works with the CR2-files from my Canon 20D. I've > downloaded what I found, tried all combinations... the picture is always too > dark. The Camera is set up to use sRGB. Daniel, Ages ago, Gilles posted a link to an external repository of profiles. Have you tried that link? (Can't remember it off hand :( ) _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Am Donnerstag, 18. Mai 2006 20:34 schrieb Duncan Hill:
> Daniel, > > Ages ago, Gilles posted a link to an external repository of profiles. > Have you tried that link? (Can't remember it off hand :( ) Yes, I've downloaded from there. And also from other sites I found with google. Plus now I installed the Canon progs I received with the camera on a win PC and copied the ICC's from there, but still no luck :-( I really tried every combination of settings and profiles I could imagine, but I guess, I must have overlooked something - if I only knew what??? With the Canon win progs the pictures just show up perfectly. Am I the only one with this problem? How embarassing! hmmm. Has anybody an idea what I could try, what I could have done wrong, what else I should look after? Or is there somebody out there with Canon CR2 files who has achieved the correct settings and can tell me them? regards Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com special interest site: http://www.bauer-nudes.com _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Le Jeudi 18 Mai 2006 20:34, Duncan Hill a écrit :
> Daniel Bauer wrote: > > Hello > > > > I have two, a practical and a theoretical, problems with ICC profiles for > > digiKam 0.9.0: > > --- > > practical: > > > > I can't find any profile that works with the CR2-files from my Canon 20D. > > I've downloaded what I found, tried all combinations... the picture is > > always too dark. The Camera is set up to use sRGB. > > Daniel, > > Ages ago, Gilles posted a link to an external repository of profiles. > Have you tried that link? (Can't remember it off hand :( ) > the url is below : http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/ICCPROFILES/ Gilles _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Le Jeudi 18 Mai 2006 19:01, Daniel Bauer a écrit :
> Hello > > I have two, a practical and a theoretical, problems with ICC profiles for > digiKam 0.9.0: > --- > practical: > > I can't find any profile that works with the CR2-files from my Canon 20D. > I've downloaded what I found, tried all combinations... the picture is > always too dark. The Camera is set up to use sRGB. > > in UFraw I use it's built-in sRGB for in- and output. That works ok. But > digiKam wouldn't accept any of the sRGB-profiles I found as a camera > profile (it doesn't show them in the setup box of camera/input profile, > they appear only in workspace/monitor setup box) > > Now, what can I do? > - Is there a possibility to create a profile myself somehow - without > making a degree as doctor-colour-space :-)) > > - Are there some "standard"-profiles that give acceptable results > somewhere? Daniel, have you tried this one for your Canon 20D : http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/ICCPROFILES/CameraProfiles/EOS 20D.icc Gilles _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Daniel Bauer wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 18. Mai 2006 20:34 schrieb Duncan Hill: >> Daniel, >> >> Ages ago, Gilles posted a link to an external repository of profiles. >> Have you tried that link? (Can't remember it off hand :( ) > > Yes, I've downloaded from there. And also from other sites I found with > google. Plus now I installed the Canon progs I received with the camera on a > win PC and copied the ICC's from there, but still no luck :-( > > I really tried every combination of settings and profiles I could imagine, but > I guess, I must have overlooked something - if I only knew what??? With the > Canon win progs the pictures just show up perfectly. Am I the only one with > this problem? How embarassing! hmmm. > > Has anybody an idea what I could try, what I could have done wrong, what else > I should look after? Or is there somebody out there with Canon CR2 files who > has achieved the correct settings and can tell me them? > > regards > > Daniel Hello Daniel, I am also working with Canon CR2 files (Canon 350D). I am sorry, but I have deleted your original letter with the problem description. But as far as I remember you are having problem with too dark images during raw conversion..am I right? If yes, then: I have the same problem. After opening a CR2, digiKam will convert it to a "viewable" image using dcraw. However, let me quote from the dcraw FAQ: "Why is 16-bit output dark / flattened / unreadable? If you want pretty pictures straight out of dcraw, stay with 8-bit output. 16-bit linear output is the best raw material for professional image editors such as Photoshop and CinePaint, but it's no good for most image viewers." And actually I am only having this problem if I am doing the conversion in 16 bit mode (8 bit mode is perfect). What I am doing is I set the gamma paramater to the maximum once, and after the operation, I rise it a bit again. But this is not really a good solution, so I am not doing raw conversion with digiKam right now...but I really would like to do all kind of conversion with digiKam. (please, excuse me if your problem was different. Also I have to mention that I am using an svn version that is at least 3 weeks old. Maybe the fresh svn does not have the same "effect" during 16bit RAW conversion) Best regards, Gabor Dudas _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Am Donnerstag, 18. Mai 2006 21:24 schrieb Gilles Caulier:
> Daniel, have you tried this one for your Canon 20D : > > http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/ICCPROFILES/CameraProfiles/EOS 20D.icc > > Gilles Yes, I have. Not sure, but I think it's the same that comes with the Canon Win Software (at least the file size is the same). However, I tried both... Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com special interest site: http://www.bauer-nudes.com _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Well Daniel, sRGB color profile isn't showed where you expect to found
it because it is not a pure input device profile, is a color space profile. I've thinking about this problem sometime ago and my conclussion is that we can accept "color spaces profiles" to be showed as "input devices" or let's the user to select a "built-in sRGB profile" in the same way we do with Color Management plugin. Paco Cruz 2006/5/18, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>: > Le Jeudi 18 Mai 2006 19:01, Daniel Bauer a écrit : > > Hello > > > > I have two, a practical and a theoretical, problems with ICC profiles for > > digiKam 0.9.0: > > --- > > practical: > > > > I can't find any profile that works with the CR2-files from my Canon 20D. > > I've downloaded what I found, tried all combinations... the picture is > > always too dark. The Camera is set up to use sRGB. > > > > in UFraw I use it's built-in sRGB for in- and output. That works ok. But > > digiKam wouldn't accept any of the sRGB-profiles I found as a camera > > profile (it doesn't show them in the setup box of camera/input profile, > > they appear only in workspace/monitor setup box) > > > > Now, what can I do? > > - Is there a possibility to create a profile myself somehow - without > > making a degree as doctor-colour-space :-)) > > > > - Are there some "standard"-profiles that give acceptable results > > somewhere? > > yes, provided by your camera maker and published with your camera win32 > application. > > For me, when i have built my Dynax 5D, i have just installed the Minolta > DImage program on a win32 computer, get the icc files installed on the system > and copied all in my linux box. All work fine like this and i'm sure that > Canon, Nikon, and others major camera maker provide this ICC files. > > For others questions, i lets Paco (F.J Cruz) given a response (He is the > digiKam Color management specialist (:=))) > > Gilles > _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Am Donnerstag, 18. Mai 2006 21:24 schrieb Gilles Caulier:
> Daniel, have you tried this one for your Canon 20D : > > http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/ICCPROFILES/CameraProfiles/EOS 20D.icc > > Gilles I still don't come to any good result in 0.9.0 svn... I've downloaded CinePaint and tried any conversions between any ICC's, no one came out that dark as in digikam, but also no one came out "good" (pictures always appeard to "flat" and still too dark). I played with different profile-combinations in UFraw, too. When using EOS 20D.icc for input and adobe srgb for output, the picture appears as dark as in digikam, but then I can correct gamma (to 0.32) and linearity (to 0.07) which gives a "not so bad" result, at least in the shown preview (of course for real usable results one would have to use more time...). I could not find any place in digikam to adjust gamma/linearity for transforming raws (yes, there is gamma somewhere, but no linearity, and to adjust one has to play with both of them at the same time). Now I've spent hours in "ICC-websites", I guess I understand the theoretical purpose, but I don't accomplish in practice. I've asked around my photographer colleagues, and it seems, everybody has some ideas, but nobody really *knows*. Those few (extremely up-to-date digital studios) who really use profiles also have (very expensive!) calibrated monitors, scanners, proof-printers and special calibration/color management software and hardware (like monitor densitometers etc.) - and all this was set up by experts from the suppliers. And yes: they use Mac. However, there should be a simple way to get acceptable results, isn't it? Or am I just too old and stupid for the modern times? I still hope, somebody can help me... Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com special interest site: http://www.bauer-nudes.com _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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On Friday 19 May 2006 12:31 pm, Daniel Bauer wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 18. Mai 2006 21:24 schrieb Gilles Caulier: > > Daniel, have you tried this one for your Canon 20D : > > > > http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/ICCPROFILES/CameraProfiles/EOS 20D.icc > > > > Gilles > > I still don't come to any good result in 0.9.0 svn... > > I've downloaded CinePaint and tried any conversions between any ICC's, no > one came out that dark as in digikam, but also no one came out "good" > (pictures always appeard to "flat" and still too dark). > > I played with different profile-combinations in UFraw, too. When using EOS > 20D.icc for input and adobe srgb for output, the picture appears as dark as > in digikam, but then I can correct gamma (to 0.32) and linearity (to 0.07) > which gives a "not so bad" result, at least in the shown preview (of course > for real usable results one would have to use more time...). > > I could not find any place in digikam to adjust gamma/linearity for > transforming raws (yes, there is gamma somewhere, but no linearity, and to > adjust one has to play with both of them at the same time). > > Now I've spent hours in "ICC-websites", I guess I understand the > theoretical purpose, but I don't accomplish in practice. > > I've asked around my photographer colleagues, and it seems, everybody has > some ideas, but nobody really *knows*. Those few (extremely up-to-date > digital studios) who really use profiles also have (very expensive!) > calibrated monitors, scanners, proof-printers and special calibration/color > management software and hardware (like monitor densitometers etc.) - and > all this was set up by experts from the suppliers. And yes: they use Mac. > > However, there should be a simple way to get acceptable results, isn't it? > Or am I just too old and stupid for the modern times? > > I still hope, somebody can help me... > > Daniel Daniel, put me some RAW files somewhere to download, i will trying to perform tests... Also, witch LCms library version you use in your system ? Gilles _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Am Freitag, 19. Mai 2006 12:40 schrieb Gilles Caulier:
> Daniel, put me some RAW files somewhere to download, i will trying to > perform tests... > Thank you very much! I'll send the URL in a PM (you can share the picture with other developpers, but not puplic... :-) > Also, witch LCms library version you use in your system ? > > Gilles liblcms 1.14-4 i586 Suse 10.0 rpm locate says: /usr/lib/liblcms.la /usr/lib/liblcms.so /usr/lib/liblcms.so.1 /usr/lib/liblcms.so.1.0.14 regards Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com special interest site: http://www.bauer-nudes.com/usr/lib/liblcms.a _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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On Friday 19 May 2006 13:16, Daniel Bauer wrote:
> Am Freitag, 19. Mai 2006 12:40 schrieb Gilles Caulier: > > Daniel, put me some RAW files somewhere to download, i will trying to > > perform tests... > > Thank you very much! > I'll send the URL in a PM (you can share the picture with other > developpers, but not puplic... :-) > > > Also, witch LCms library version you use in your system ? > > > > Gilles > > liblcms 1.14-4 i586 Suse 10.0 rpm > locate says: > /usr/lib/liblcms.la > /usr/lib/liblcms.so > /usr/lib/liblcms.so.1 > /usr/lib/liblcms.so.1.0.14 > EOS-350D). I have the dark pictures since ever I use svn 0.9 version. I thought up to now that this was still in development, but now I agree we should solve the problem (Canon DSLR is very popular). Maybe it is a Canon specific problem. But why does ufraw not have it? The result of digiKam is exactly the same as if I apply dcraw on the command line without color management. Gerhard _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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On Friday 19 May 2006 01:37 pm, Gerhard Kulzer wrote:
> On Friday 19 May 2006 13:16, Daniel Bauer wrote: > > Am Freitag, 19. Mai 2006 12:40 schrieb Gilles Caulier: > > > Daniel, put me some RAW files somewhere to download, i will trying to > > > perform tests... > > > > Thank you very much! > > I'll send the URL in a PM (you can share the picture with other > > developpers, but not puplic... :-) > > > > > Also, witch LCms library version you use in your system ? > > > > > > Gilles > > > > liblcms 1.14-4 i586 Suse 10.0 rpm > > locate says: > > /usr/lib/liblcms.la > > /usr/lib/liblcms.so > > /usr/lib/liblcms.so.1 > > /usr/lib/liblcms.so.1.0.14 > > Gilles, I have the same problems as Daniel (using liblcms 1.0.15 and > EOS-350D). I have the dark pictures since ever I use svn 0.9 version. I > thought up to now that this was still in development, but now I agree we > should solve the problem (Canon DSLR is very popular). Maybe it is a Canon > specific problem. But why does ufraw not have it? > The result of digiKam is exactly the same as if I apply dcraw on the > command line without color management. Gerhard, you said that you can use these profile under ufraw... To have tested the Canon Icc profiles on my computer, nothing work properly in digiKam _AND_ ufraw (0.5 here) ! If i set a Canon profile in digiKam setup, and I display the colors gamut graph, there is no CIE 1931 chromaticity diagram available (no white triangle in fact). This is why we have a black image in digiKam image editor. Look in wikipedia for more info about Gamut : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamut I don't know what is wrong exactly with this profile, but we cannot used these files properly under linux. Paco, if you have some explainations, please let's me here (:=))) BUT, with your Canon camera, you can use the linear profile available here (public domain!) : http://www.lysator.liu.se/~ture/eos10d/ It work fine under linux (digikam & ufraw) !!! I have tested this one with Daniel image (very nice (:=)))... Gilles _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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On Friday 19 May 2006 01:16 pm, Daniel Bauer wrote:
> Am Freitag, 19. Mai 2006 12:40 schrieb Gilles Caulier: > > Daniel, put me some RAW files somewhere to download, i will trying to > > perform tests... > > Thank you very much! > I'll send the URL in a PM (you can share the picture with other > developpers, but not puplic... :-) I have tried to use all icc profile from bibblepro program available for linux for testing. you can download it : http://www.bibblelabs.com This software includes camera/workspace profiles witch work fine under digiKam : $ pwd /usr/lib/bibblelabs/bibblepro/profiles $ ls Adobe.icm canonb.icm DCSRGB.icm kodak1.icm mvx900.icm nnhighnormal.icm olysp.icm Apple.icm canonc.icm DefaultMonitor.icm kodak2.icm nikon1.icm nnlin.icm PAL.icm bruce.icm canond.icm epson1.icm kodak3.icm nikon2.icm nnlow2.icm panasonic1.icm canon1.icm canone.icm er1.icm KODAK_sRGB.icm nikon3.icm nnlowfinal.icm pentax1.icm canon2.icm c.icm er2.icm lab.icm nikon4.icm nnlownormal.icm ProPhotoRGB.icm canon3.icm CIE.icm er3.icm LinearRGB.icm nikon5.icm nnnormfinal.icm rimm.icm canon4.icm ColorMatch.icm er4.icm lin.icm nikon6.icm normfinal.icm SMPTE-C.icm canon5.icm DCSPortraitGrayscale.icm er5.icm low2.icm nikon7.icm NTSC.icm sony1.icm canon6.icm DCSPortraitLook.icm ERIMM_PCS3.icm lowfinal.icm nikonb.icm oly1.icm sRGB Color Space Profile.icm canon7.icm DCSPortraitLookRed.icm fuji1.icm lownormal.icm nikonc.icm oly2.icm srgb.icm canon8.icm DCSProductGrayscale.icm high2.icm mac.icm nklab.icm oly3.icm WideGamut.icm canon9.icm DCSProductLook.icm highfinal.icm minolta1.icm nnhigh2.icm oly4.icm znorm.icm canona.icm DCSProductLookRed.icm highnormal.icm minolta3.icm nnhighfinal.icm oly5.icm [gilles@cea-tir8 profiles]$ For example, you can try all canon*.icm files using Color management plugin for digikam image editor to select the right file to use in ICC workflow... Gilles _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Am Freitag, 19. Mai 2006 14:06 schrieb Gilles Caulier:
> BUT, with your Canon camera, you can use the linear profile available here > (public domain!) : > > http://www.lysator.liu.se/~ture/eos10d/ > > It work fine under linux (digikam & ufraw) !!! I have tested this one with > Daniel image (very nice (:=)))... > > Gilles Thanks for testing my picture, Gilles! I tried the above profile. - In editor view there was no change ??? - but using color->color management and then choosing the above for input and the "generic monitor" or "adobe rgb 1998" for workspace gave slightly better results, meaning brighter, but still very, very "flat" (poor contrast, "milky" colours) - the same happens in UFraw. Can you tell me what settings you entered in digikam (in raw image decoding options and ICC settings), please? I've entered the ICC settings like on your screenshot: http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/Screenshots/iccworkflowwithrawimages.png except that I took the file from http://www.lysator.liu.se/~ture/eos10d/ for "imput" and nothing for "Soft proof" Maybe I missed something somewhere else, although I thought I tried "everything"... Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com special interest site: http://www.bauer-nudes.com _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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On Friday 19 May 2006 03:08 pm, Daniel Bauer wrote:
> Can you tell me what settings you entered in digikam (in raw image decoding > options and ICC settings), please? Screenshots sent in private, images (c) from Daniel (:=)))... Gilles _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
Re: problems with ICC profiles
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Am Freitag, 19. Mai 2006 16:48 schrieb Gilles Caulier:
> On Friday 19 May 2006 03:08 pm, Daniel Bauer wrote: > > Can you tell me what settings you entered in digikam (in raw image > > decoding options and ICC settings), please? > > Screenshots sent in private, images (c) from Daniel (:=)))... > > Gilles As already said in PM: thank you very much, Gilles! I achieved the same result in 0.9.0 svn. It is not bad, but it is not perfect yet ;-) but at least a great step ahead :-) I have put samples of this pictures here: 1) photo as the canon-program on Win98 made it without any corrections (then saved as 16bit-TIFF and resized and saved as jpg with photoshop 5.0): http://www.daniel-bauer.com/test/6057_09_canon.jpg 2) same picture in 0.9.0 svn with setting as shown by you (resized and saved as jpg within digikam 0.9.0): http://www.daniel-bauer.com/test/6057_009_editor.jpg 3) same, then with "automatic color correction" by digikam: http://www.daniel-bauer.com/test/6057_009_automatic.jpg I think, the "canon" ist the most "vivid" one. What do you think? Daniel b.t.w.: I'll take those samples off the server again next week... -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com special interest site: http://www.bauer-nudes.com _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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