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Uwe Mintermann
Hello,

I really like Digikam for organizing (especially tagging) my photos. But somehow I always prefer EOG when I control new photos and watch old photos.

Here are some suggestions:

1. when you click on the "Zoom to 100%" button it should focus on the middle on the photo and NOT on the upper left corner. Usually there is nothing in the upper left corner.

2. the 1:1 Button should be on top

3. there should be an extra button to go back to fitted mode

3. the scroll wheel of the mouse should let you zoom

4. all buttons on the top should be bigger and more dominant

Look at EOG for details.
Alternatively there could be a way that double click on a photo starts EOG.

Thanks for reading.

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Re: missing comfort

Photonoxx
Le Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:44:58 +0100, Uwe Mintermann  
<[hidden email]> a écrit:

> Hello,
>
> I really like Digikam for organizing (especially tagging) my photos. But
> somehow I always prefer EOG when I control new photos and watch old  
> photos.
>
> Here are some suggestions:
>
> 1. when you click on the "Zoom to 100%" button it should focus on the
> middle on the photo and NOT on the upper left corner. Usually there is
> nothing in the upper left corner.

There's some clouds, most of the time... ;>)))

Seriously, it's not a big affair for me, you can quickly scroll to the  
center, in an other way you can use the wheel zoom (with ctrl as I just  
discover) : it zooms where your mouse pointer is !

>
> 2. the 1:1 Button should be on top

On top of what ? If you want you can add the 100% zoom button in the top  
toolbar, this way it still visible in fullscreen mode (this is not the  
case otherwise).

>
> 3. there should be an extra button to go back to fitted mode

Why put two button when it already go back to fitted mode when you click  
one more time on the "100% zoom" button ? May be it could be renamed, but  
the important is it do it.

>
> 3. the scroll wheel of the mouse should let you zoom

It's a point of view... May be in combination with ctrl... but just wheel  
to zoom doesn't seem to be the best for me.

--- oops I just discover, by making the test, it's already what happens  
when you use ctrl+wheel ---
>
> 4. all buttons on the top should be bigger and more dominant

Which buttons ? said like that it's difficult to understand what should be  
bigger. Are they the buttons to go next/previous Rotate and the others ?

>
> Look at EOG for details.
> Alternatively there could be a way that double click on a photo starts  
> EOG.
>
> Thanks for reading.

Your welcome...

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Re: missing comfort

Uwe Mintermann


On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Photonoxx <[hidden email]> wrote:
Le Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:44:58 +0100, Uwe Mintermann <[hidden email]> a écrit:


Hello,

I really like Digikam for organizing (especially tagging) my photos. But
somehow I always prefer EOG when I control new photos and watch old photos.

Here are some suggestions:

1. when you click on the "Zoom to 100%" button it should focus on the
middle on the photo and NOT on the upper left corner. Usually there is
nothing in the upper left corner.

There's some clouds, most of the time... ;>)))

Seriously, it's not a big affair for me, you can quickly scroll to the center, in an other way you can use the wheel zoom (with ctrl as I just discover) : it zooms where your mouse pointer is !

Of course I can correct the position every time. But this way it is just not as comfortable as EOG. In most cases the object is in the middle or in the near of the middle. But it is never in the upper left corner.
 



2. the 1:1 Button should be on top

On top of what ? If you want you can add the 100% zoom button in the top toolbar, this way it still visible in fullscreen mode (this is not the case otherwise).



Next to the arrow buttons for going to next/previous photo and for turning photos. Look at EOG's (Eye of Gnome) design please.
Yes, the button is lost in fullscreen too, another issue. There is no way to move the button so far.


3. there should be an extra button to go back to fitted mode

Why put two button when it already go back to fitted mode when you click one more time on the "100% zoom" button ? May be it could be renamed, but the important is it do it.



3. the scroll wheel of the mouse should let you zoom

It's a point of view... May be in combination with ctrl... but just wheel to zoom doesn't seem to be the best for me.

--- oops I just discover, by making the test, it's already what happens when you use ctrl+wheel ---

I see :) Thanks for the hint. Maybe there can be an option to configure this behaviour.
 


4. all buttons on the top should be bigger and more dominant

Which buttons ? said like that it's difficult to understand what should be bigger. Are they the buttons to go next/previous Rotate and the others ?

Yes, exactly those buttons. Like EOG.
 



Look at EOG for details.
Alternatively there could be a way that double click on a photo starts EOG.

Thanks for reading.

Your welcome...

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Re: missing comfort

Anders Lund
On Torsdag den 10. november 2011, Uwe Mintermann wrote:
> 4. all buttons on the top should be bigger and more dominant
>
>
>  Which buttons ? said like that it's difficult to understand what should be
> bigger. Are they the buttons to go next/previous Rotate and the others ?
>
> Yes, exactly those buttons. Like EOG.

First I was confused, because I hid those buttons :-)

But, I think it would be smart to place them in a toolbar, that would allow
people to select a size and add/remove buttons to their liking. The toolbar
could be transperant, just showing the icons.


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Re: missing comfort

Anders Lund
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On Torsdag den 10. november 2011, Uwe Mintermann wrote:
> 1. when you click on the "Zoom to 100%" button it should focus on the
> middle on the photo and NOT on the upper left corner. Usually there is
> nothing in the upper left corner.

Yes please! Stay in the current area, by default center. If image is zoomed,
use current center. That would be a great improvement.

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Re: missing comfort

Andreas T. Ege
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Hi there,

I haven't to contribute anything usefull to your problem, unfortunately. For me viewing pictures with digikam works good enough, though I agree with the upper left/ centering issue. 
Open a bugreport with your wishes, probably you are not the only one. 

photos. Look at EOG's (Eye of Gnome) design please.
I certainly will not install a software I'm not gonna use just to see how you think something should look. Comprehensible descriptions are always the best thing, as, like in this examples, it gives non-gnome users the chance to understand what you actually want. Same goes for acronymes, up until this mail I hadn't had the slightest clue wha EOG stands for, and certainly couldn't be bothered to look it up. 
No offense meant. ;-)

I work a lot with key shortcuts, so buttons are not that big an issue for me. 

I kind of like the idea of zooming with the scroll wheel. But what I like even more is going forward and backward (next/ previous picture) with the wheel button. Then again, I mostly use the keys for that as well. ;-)

Can you choose the wheel for zooming in the dialog for custom shortcuts? Just an idea. 

Finally, I do prefer not having any buttons cluttering my full view, imo that should be reserved for just seeing the image. 


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Am 10 Nov 2011 um 10:16 schrieb Uwe Mintermann <[hidden email]>:



On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Photonoxx <[hidden email]> wrote:
Le Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:44:58 +0100, Uwe Mintermann <[hidden email]> a écrit:


Hello,

I really like Digikam for organizing (especially tagging) my photos. But
somehow I always prefer EOG when I control new photos and watch old photos.

Here are some suggestions:

1. when you click on the "Zoom to 100%" button it should focus on the
middle on the photo and NOT on the upper left corner. Usually there is
nothing in the upper left corner.

There's some clouds, most of the time... ;>)))

Seriously, it's not a big affair for me, you can quickly scroll to the center, in an other way you can use the wheel zoom (with ctrl as I just discover) : it zooms where your mouse pointer is !

Of course I can correct the position every time. But this way it is just not as comfortable as EOG. In most cases the object is in the middle or in the near of the middle. But it is never in the upper left corner.
 



2. the 1:1 Button should be on top

On top of what ? If you want you can add the 100% zoom button in the top toolbar, this way it still visible in fullscreen mode (this is not the case otherwise).



Next to the arrow buttons for going to next/previous photo and for turning 
Yes, the button is lost in fullscreen too, another issue. There is no way to move the button so far.


3. there should be an extra button to go back to fitted mode

Why put two button when it already go back to fitted mode when you click one more time on the "100% zoom" button ? May be it could be renamed, but the important is it do it.



3. the scroll wheel of the mouse should let you zoom

It's a point of view... May be in combination with ctrl... but just wheel to zoom doesn't seem to be the best for me.

--- oops I just discover, by making the test, it's already what happens when you use ctrl+wheel ---

I see :) Thanks for the hint. Maybe there can be an option to configure this behaviour.
 


4. all buttons on the top should be bigger and more dominant

Which buttons ? said like that it's difficult to understand what should be bigger. Are they the buttons to go next/previous Rotate and the others ?

Yes, exactly those buttons. Like EOG.
 



Look at EOG for details.
Alternatively there could be a way that double click on a photo starts EOG.

Thanks for reading.

Your welcome...

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Re: missing comfort

Anders Lund
On Torsdag den 10. november 2011, Andreas T. Ege wrote:
>> photos. Look at EOG's (Eye of Gnome) design please.
> I certainly will not install a software I'm not gonna use just to see how
> you think something should look


http://projects.gnome.org/eog/screenshots.html

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Re: missing comfort

AT Ege
Hi there,

Am 10.11.2011 21:56, schrieb Anders Lund:
> On Torsdag den 10. november 2011, Andreas T. Ege wrote:
>>> photos. Look at EOG's (Eye of Gnome) design please.
>> I certainly will not install a software I'm not gonna use just to see how
>> you think something should look
>
>
> http://projects.gnome.org/eog/screenshots.html
>
Point taken. ;-)

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AT Ege
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Hi there,

> Can you choose the wheel for zooming in the dialog for custom shortcuts? Just an idea.
>
just checked myself, no, you can't. At least plain scroll wheel, didn't
check for key-wheel combination as already there.

>>> 2. the 1:1 Button should be on top
>>>
>> On top of what ? If you want you can add the 100% zoom button in the top
>> toolbar, this way it still visible in fullscreen mode (this is not the case
>> otherwise).
>>
>>
>>
> Next to the arrow buttons for going to next/previous photo and for turning
> photos. Look at EOG's (Eye of Gnome) design please.
> Yes, the button is lost in fullscreen too, another issue. There is no way
> to move the button so far.
>
You can move the button, if you right click on the task bar -->
configure taskbar (Werkzeugleiste einrichten in German). Then you can
add buttons, like the arrows and 1:1 button from the left side
(available actions/ verfügbare Aktionen) to the right (displayed
actions/ angezeigte Aktionen), and you can choose where you want to
place the button in relation to the others by dragging it up and down
the list. At least on digikam 2.3.0 with linux.
Translations of the menu names to English might be wrong, but should be
similar, digikam is running in German on my system.


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guenter
Am 10.11.2011 23:45, schrieb AT Ege:

> Hi there,
>
>> Can you choose the wheel for zooming in the dialog for custom
>> shortcuts? Just an idea.
>>
> just checked myself, no, you can't. At least plain scroll wheel, didn't
> check for key-wheel combination as already there.
>
>>>> 2. the 1:1 Button should be on top
>>>>
>>> On top of what ? If you want you can add the 100% zoom button in the top
>>> toolbar, this way it still visible in fullscreen mode (this is not
>>> the case
>>> otherwise).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Next to the arrow buttons for going to next/previous photo and for
>> turning
>> photos. Look at EOG's (Eye of Gnome) design please.
>> Yes, the button is lost in fullscreen too, another issue. There is no way
>> to move the button so far.
>>
> You can move the button, if you right click on the task bar -->
> configure taskbar (Werkzeugleiste einrichten in German). Then you can
> add buttons,

Thanks a lot!


And for finding the Region Of Interest there is this arrow-cross in the
lowest right corner: Clicking and holding the mouse button pressed one
can move around the ROI easily. A feature I found late... :-)


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Re: missing comfort

Uwe Mintermann
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Hello again,

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:45 PM, AT Ege <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi there,


Can you choose the wheel for zooming in the dialog for custom shortcuts? Just an idea.

just checked myself, no, you can't. At least plain scroll wheel, didn't check for key-wheel combination as already there.

2. the 1:1 Button should be on top

On top of what ? If you want you can add the 100% zoom button in the top
toolbar, this way it still visible in fullscreen mode (this is not the case
otherwise).



Next to the arrow buttons for going to next/previous photo and for turning
photos. Look at EOG's (Eye of Gnome) design please.
Yes, the button is lost in fullscreen too, another issue. There is no way
to move the button so far.

You can move the button, if you right click on the task bar --> configure taskbar (Werkzeugleiste einrichten in German). Then you can add buttons, like the arrows and 1:1 button from the left side (available actions/ verfügbare Aktionen) to the right (displayed actions/ angezeigte Aktionen), and you can choose where you want to place the button in relation to the others by dragging it up and down the list. At least on digikam 2.3.0 with linux.
Translations of the menu names to English might be wrong, but should be similar, digikam is running in German on my system.

Thanks. But I cannot find the buttons for  turning photo left and right. Seems to be missing.





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