inefficient use of screen space

[Per Bothner]

DigiKam uses screen real estate very inefficiently.
The left side-bar, whether it is album view, date/time
view, or tags view all use large icons which means there
is excess whitespace between each line.  Each of these
should use a standard tree-view like Konqueror, and either
leave out the icon (seldom useful), or use a much smaller
icon.

The same issue applies to the tag editing or filter modes
in the right side-bar.

The far left column used to switch between album, data/time,
tags, and searches could be done more space efficiently by
using a "tab" bar on top.  This is also a more common
interface so it might be more user-friendly.  Or the Firefox
Sidebar-selection UI could be used.

I also agree with BugZilla #102500
(http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102500) that album
view has too much whitespace and in general is not space
efficient.
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[Arnd Baecker]

Hi Per,

which version of digikam are you using?
With recent versions you can adjust the icon size.

Concerning  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102500
different variants have been discussed, but no conclusion
was made as far as I understand things;
maybe you could revive that topic there by making a proposal,
which takes the status of the discussion into account?

Best, Arnd

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Per Bothner wrote:

> DigiKam uses screen real estate very inefficiently.
> The left side-bar, whether it is album view, date/time
> view, or tags view all use large icons which means there
> is excess whitespace between each line.  Each of these
> should use a standard tree-view like Konqueror, and either
> leave out the icon (seldom useful), or use a much smaller
> icon.
>
> The same issue applies to the tag editing or filter modes
> in the right side-bar.
>
> The far left column used to switch between album, data/time,
> tags, and searches could be done more space efficiently by
> using a "tab" bar on top.  This is also a more common
> interface so it might be more user-friendly.  Or the Firefox
> Sidebar-selection UI could be used.
>
> I also agree with BugZilla #102500
> (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102500) that album
> view has too much whitespace and in general is not space
> efficient.
>

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2007/7/10, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>:

Hi Per,

which version of digikam are you using?
With recent versions you can adjust the icon size.

Concerning  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102500
different variants have been discussed, but no conclusion
was made as far as I understand things;
maybe you could revive that topic there by making a proposal,
which takes the status of the discussion into account?

and we will review this B.K.O file during KDE4 port...

Gilles

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[Per Bothner]

Arnd Baecker wrote:
 > which version of digikam are you using?
 > With recent versions you can adjust the icon size.

I'm using 0.9.2 as shipped with Fedora 7.  Which is
confusing because this blog posting
(http://www.digikam.org/?q=node/218)
says 0.9.2 can adjust the thumbs and icons sizes,
but the screenshot does not match what I see.

In any case, I can't try anything until this is resolved:
http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/digikam-users/2007-July/003927.html
I'm assuming I can tweak some config file - but of course it's a bug
if you can use the UI to get into a state you can only recover from
by editing a config file.

P.S. For now I'm reading this via the archives rather than being
subscribed, so cc'ing me would be appreciated.
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[Per Bothner]

Ok, one problem is fixed - I found the setting for the
sidebar thumbnail image size and changed it to 16.

I still can't change the album thumbnail image size
(I'd like to make that larger).  Even editing digikamrc
(the ThumbnailSize setting) doesn't seem to work.

I'll submit a bugzilla request to use a tabbed UI for
the sidebars.
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[Arnd Baecker]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Per Bothner wrote:

> Ok, one problem is fixed - I found the setting for the
> sidebar thumbnail image size and changed it to 16.

good.

> I still can't change the album thumbnail image size
> (I'd like to make that larger).  Even editing digikamrc
> (the ThumbnailSize setting) doesn't seem to work.

I don't understand - what do you mean by "album thumbnail image size"?
Do you refer to those in the left side-bar?
OTOH, the ThumbnailSize is in the [Camera Settings] part...

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[Per Bothner]

Arnd Baecker wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Per Bothner wrote:
>> I still can't change the album thumbnail image size
>> (I'd like to make that larger).  Even editing digikamrc
>> (the ThumbnailSize setting) doesn't seem to work.
>
> I don't understand - what do you mean by "album thumbnail image size"?
> Do you refer to those in the left side-bar?
> OTOH, the ThumbnailSize is in the [Camera Settings] part...

The setting I needed to change was 'Default Icon Size'
for the photo thumbnails shown in the album view.  Changing
it to 160 gave me something reasonable.

I couldn't find a UI way to change this, and the default of 96
is much too small.
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[Arnd Baecker]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Per Bothner wrote:

> Arnd Baecker wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Per Bothner wrote:
> >> I still can't change the album thumbnail image size
> >> (I'd like to make that larger).  Even editing digikamrc
> >> (the ThumbnailSize setting) doesn't seem to work.
> >
> > I don't understand - what do you mean by "album thumbnail image size"?
> > Do you refer to those in the left side-bar?
> > OTOH, the ThumbnailSize is in the [Camera Settings] part...
>
> The setting I needed to change was 'Default Icon Size'
> for the photo thumbnails shown in the album view.  Changing
> it to 160 gave me something reasonable.
>
> I couldn't find a UI way to change this, and the default of 96
> is much too small.

There is a status-line with a slider to change the icon size
(well, this one also disappears with the full-screen problem,
but re-appears after CTRL-SHIFT-F twice).

HTH, Arnd

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[Per Bothner]

Arnd Baecker wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Per Bothner wrote:
>
>> Arnd Baecker wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Per Bothner wrote:
>>>> I still can't change the album thumbnail image size
>>>> (I'd like to make that larger).  Even editing digikamrc
>>>> (the ThumbnailSize setting) doesn't seem to work.
>>> I don't understand - what do you mean by "album thumbnail image size"?
>>> Do you refer to those in the left side-bar?
>>> OTOH, the ThumbnailSize is in the [Camera Settings] part...
>> The setting I needed to change was 'Default Icon Size'
>> for the photo thumbnails shown in the album view.  Changing
>> it to 160 gave me something reasonable.
>>
>> I couldn't find a UI way to change this, and the default of 96
>> is much too small.
>
> There is a status-line with a slider to change the icon size
> (well, this one also disappears with the full-screen problem,
> but re-appears after CTRL-SHIFT-F twice).

That UI isn't terribly obvious (though the tooltip helps).
Worse, it's hard to precisely set the size.  A common
alternative is a widget to show the actual number along with
up and down control, like what KColorChooser uses.  I think
that might be better.

Still, the existing UI is tolerable enough, especially now
that I know how to edit the digikamrc.
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