[digiKam-users] KDE vs appimage
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dk 5.9.0 appimage.
I'm using Manjaro/xfce and I'm looking at doing some hardware updates and reinstalling Manjaro. I could install KDE instead of XFCE. What's the difference between the digikam KDE version and the appimage? * more functionality? * more speed? -- sknahT vyS |
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Hi, The AppImage do not have all features, mostly based on KIO framework, because this cannot be bundled. This include the KDE Plasma desktop integration. But AppImage is well tuned. All shared libraries used in the bundle are up to date, and optimized. For ex, Exiv2 video support is disabled, and OpenCV3 is compiled with the minimum required for digiKam. AppImage can be run in debugger to get a backtrace and permit to investiguate. AppImage include also Showfoto. There is an option in CLI. AppImage is always available with last digiKam code from git. This require one hour to compile the file and to upload on server. This is perfect to check new features or to valid a fix. AppImage is certainly not perfect, but it's rock to have a digiKam up to date very quickly. It's maintained by us, so we control all the process. It's optimum. Voilà Gilles Caulier 2018-09-05 23:08 GMT+02:00 <[hidden email]>: dk 5.9.0 appimage. |
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In reply to this post by digikam-2
I would go for KDE over XFCE any time if I had a choice but that is my preference. Reasons for my choice are: - Dolphin - in my opinion it is the best file manager ever. I use it on my Windows 10 work laptop too but it is way more powerful on Linux. - I like how easy it is to integrate scripts running in konsole to the system's Open With menu and digikam. I use scripts to compress my video files, locate a single image in a folder, read metadata using exiftool, fix dates using exiftool, etc. etc. All that I call via a right click - open with from digikam. I tried MATE DE but I was not able to make it work as smooth as on KDE. Best regards, Andrey On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:09 PM <[hidden email]> wrote: dk 5.9.0 appimage. |
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In reply to this post by Gilles Caulier-4
I miss a feature that do not work in AppImage for the moment : Open With... In fact this option is not available in all bundles. In MacOS and Windows, specific plate-form codes need to be written for that or, when Qt will provide a real good desktop integration API, it will be easy to do. Gilles Caulier 2018-09-05 23:36 GMT+02:00 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
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Have you tried multimonitor setup on KDE? That could be the only one reason not to use KDE. Even on the latest kubuntu 18.04 it still is unstable, buggy, terrible in spite of the fact that this is very old problem. P.
W dniu 06.09.2018 o 17:03, Andrey Goreev pisze:
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I use two monitors max. (laptop screen and an external monitor). I did have issues with the setup on Mint KDE a couple of years ago but everything works as a charm on openSUSE TW as well as on Debian 9. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message -------- From: Pioter Gmoter <[hidden email]> Date: 2018-09-06 3:58 PM (GMT-07:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [digiKam-users] KDE vs appimage Have you tried multimonitor setup on KDE? That could be the only one reason not to use KDE. Even on the latest kubuntu 18.04 it still is unstable, buggy, terrible in spite of the fact that this is very old problem. P.
W dniu 06.09.2018 o 17:03, Andrey Goreev pisze:
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Well, it looks like the problem depends on wierd things. The latest manjaro with KDE also has this problem. So you are lucky. What kde/qt version the OpenSUSE and Debian 9 (here I guess something older) uses? W dniu 07.09.2018 o 00:03, Andrey Goreev pisze:
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At home, I use 2 WQHD 27' monitors and in my office 3 24' HD monitor to work. Both run with mageia 6 and Plasma 5. It's very stable and perfect... Gilles Caulier 2018-09-06 23:58 GMT+02:00 Pioter Gmoter <[hidden email]>:
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In reply to this post by Gilles Caulier-4
Hi there,
I second Andrey and Gilles. First of all I also look forward on a "Open with ..." functionalty in Windows and MacOSX since a long time. I also plagued Gilles with it but I see that I will take ressources for platform-specific changes. Towards the appimage discussion. For a productive use, it feels like a stranger on my desktop environments, especially when you compare it with Digikam working in the KDE desktop. So I use an appimage for testing some new features or fixes in Digikam. For this purpose the appimage feels right for me. For productive work I choose Manjaro KDE because there new DigiKam version are quickly available in the software updates (package manager). --NeiNei On 06.09.2018 17:56, Gilles Caulier wrote: > I miss a feature that do not work in AppImage for the moment : Open With... > > In fact this option is not available in all bundles. In MacOS and > Windows, specific plate-form codes need to be written for that or, when > Qt will provide a real good desktop integration API, it will be easy to do. > > Gilles Caulier > > 2018-09-05 23:36 GMT+02:00 Gilles Caulier <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>>: > > Hi, > > The AppImage do not have all features, mostly based on KIO > framework, because this cannot be bundled. > This include the KDE Plasma desktop integration. > > But AppImage is well tuned. All shared libraries used in the bundle > are up to date, and optimized. For ex, Exiv2 video support is > disabled, and OpenCV3 is compiled with the minimum required for digiKam. > > AppImage can be run in debugger to get a backtrace and permit to > investiguate. > > AppImage include also Showfoto. There is an option in CLI. > > AppImage is always available with last digiKam code from git. This > require one hour to compile the file and to upload on server. This > is perfect to check new features or to valid a fix. > > AppImage is certainly not perfect, but it's rock to have a digiKam > up to date very quickly. It's maintained by us, so we control all > the process. It's optimum. > > Voilà > > Gilles Caulier > > 2018-09-05 23:08 GMT+02:00 <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>>: > > dk 5.9.0 appimage. > > I'm using Manjaro/xfce and I'm looking at doing some hardware > updates > and reinstalling Manjaro. I could install KDE instead of XFCE. > > What's the difference between the digikam KDE version and the > appimage? > > * more functionality? > * more speed? > > -- > sknahT > > vyS > > > |
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Yeah I already know that and wonder why just slightly different KDE (still KDE5 anyway) behaves so terribly while others are lucky users of multimonitor setups. Strange that Debian 9 is working fine while kubuntu is not. P.
W dniu 07.09.2018 o 06:04, Gilles Caulier pisze:
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 15:34:36 +0000
Pioter Gmoter <[hidden email]> wrote: > Yeah I already know that and wonder why just slightly different KDE > (still KDE5 anyway) behaves so terribly while others are lucky > users of multimonitor setups. Strange that Debian 9 is working fine > while kubuntu is not. Pardon my ignorance, but what's that got to do with KDE? I thought that the multimonitor setup was related to the video driver (nvidia in my case) and X.org. -- sknahT vyS |
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On 9/7/18 6:00 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Yeah I already know that and wonder why just slightly different KDE >> (still KDE5 anyway) behaves so terribly while others are lucky >> users of multimonitor setups. Strange that Debian 9 is working fine >> while kubuntu is not. > Hi Ubuntu, Kubuntu, are based on Debian unstable/Sid. That's why they are so buggy. If you want stable system, install stable distro like Debian, Mageia, Suse, etc... |
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In reply to this post by digikam-2
Responsible for screen/window management is not low level video driver
but window manager. And this is the part of KDE (kwin). But the problem is probably more complicated, and very likely deep inside qt library (that is at least one of the possible reasons). Anyway this is known issue (google it) with KDE. But as we can see not with every version. This is DK forum, so I'm not going deeper into this topic. Just wonder how others deal with it. P. W dniu 07.09.2018 o 18:00, [hidden email] pisze: > On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 15:34:36 +0000 > Pioter Gmoter <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Yeah I already know that and wonder why just slightly different KDE >> (still KDE5 anyway) behaves so terribly while others are lucky >> users of multimonitor setups. Strange that Debian 9 is working fine >> while kubuntu is not. > Pardon my ignorance, but what's that got to do with KDE? I thought > that the multimonitor setup was related to the video driver (nvidia in > my case) and X.org. > |
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