[digiKam-users] Hide albums, filters etc.

[Lukas Haase]

Hi,

I just got into digiKam and I love it!

There is just one thing that's so much missing that I find it hard to believe to not find it: Hiding/disabling of albums, ignoring albums/pictures etc.

I only found a few old posts [1-2] on that but nothing substantial.

I want to use digiKam for pretty much all pictures I have and this includes pictures for myself, pictures from my (extended) family and friends and then I would like to be able to use it to browse through pictures with other people. Depending on the person, I want certain items to not be visible.

For "Albums", I added multiple collections such as Personal Pictures, and a network drive with shared fotos from family friends. For my own overview, I would like to disable for example the shared pictures when I am only interested in my own pictures.

When I browse through the pictures with my family, I would like to remove my personal collection/albums.

Finally, I would like to tag individual pictures in between as "private" that I can selectively disable.

Am I just not finding this or is this really not possible?

Thanks,
Lukas


[1] http://digikam.1695700.n4.nabble.com/about-quot-private-quot-photos-td4693166.html
[2] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150531

[Peter McD]

Am 12.08.20 um 00:40 schrieb Lukas Haase:

> Hi,
>
> I just got into digiKam and I love it!
>
> There is just one thing that's so much missing that I find it hard to believe to not find it: Hiding/disabling of albums, ignoring albums/pictures etc.
>
> I only found a few old posts [1-2] on that but nothing substantial.
>
> I want to use digiKam for pretty much all pictures I have and this includes pictures for myself, pictures from my (extended) family and friends and then I would like to be able to use it to browse through pictures with other people. Depending on the person, I want certain items to not be visible.
>
> For "Albums", I added multiple collections such as Personal Pictures, and a network drive with shared fotos from family friends. For my own overview, I would like to disable for example the shared pictures when I am only interested in my own pictures.
>
> When I browse through the pictures with my family, I would like to remove my personal collection/albums.
>
> Finally, I would like to tag individual pictures in between as "private" that I can selectively disable.
>
> Am I just not finding this or is this really not possible?

Why so much work?

My picture archive consists of different folders,
e.g "friends" "family" "private" "general",

then sub-folders e.g general/2018/201803_whatever-you-like.

Then I use digikam's powerful extended search capabilities, and select
exactly what I want.

That is it.

Anyway, if I had pictures which are better kept private, I would store
them definitely in a separate folder where they cannot accidentally be
called up.

Peter

[Rob D]

I think that hidden items is a good idea myself.

Creating searches just to hide folders you don't care about dealing this at this time seems a bit time consuming when you're trying to get something done.  While it could be used to hide "private" photos, it seems like it might be a really cool idea to virtually shrink the working set of photos you're dealing with.  Imagine if face detection would skip hidden folders/photos.  It would be great way to reduce the time required for this task if you could just omit "uncle Bill's photo archive you just inherited" from your current working set without removing it totally from Digikam.    I imagine every tool that operates would have to understand what a hidden flag is, and it would take a lot of work, but I think it would be a powerful feature.

On Wed, 2020-08-12 at 15:12 +0200, Peter McD wrote:

Am 12.08.20 um 00:40 schrieb Lukas Haase:

Hi,

I just got into digiKam and I love it!

There is just one thing that's so much missing that I find it hard to believe to not find it: Hiding/disabling of albums, ignoring albums/pictures etc.

I only found a few old posts [1-2] on that but nothing substantial.

I want to use digiKam for pretty much all pictures I have and this includes pictures for myself, pictures from my (extended) family and friends and then I would like to be able to use it to browse through pictures with other people. Depending on the person, I want certain items to not be visible.

For "Albums", I added multiple collections such as Personal Pictures, and a network drive with shared fotos from family friends. For my own overview, I would like to disable for example the shared pictures when I am only interested in my own pictures.

When I browse through the pictures with my family, I would like to remove my personal collection/albums.

Finally, I would like to tag individual pictures in between as "private" that I can selectively disable.

Am I just not finding this or is this really not possible?

Why so much work?

My picture archive consists of different folders,

e.g "friends" "family" "private" "general",

then sub-folders e.g general/2018/201803_whatever-you-like.

Then I use digikam's powerful extended search capabilities, and select

exactly what I want.

That is it.

Anyway, if I had pictures which are better kept private, I would store

them definitely in a separate folder where they cannot accidentally be

called up.

Peter

[Peter McD]

Am 12.08.20 um 16:56 schrieb Rob Dueckman:

> I think that hidden items is a good idea myself.
>
> Creating searches just to hide folders you don't care about dealing
> this at this time seems a bit time consuming when you're trying to get
> something done.  While it could be used to hide "private" photos, it
> seems like it might be a really cool idea to virtually shrink the
> working set of photos you're dealing with.  Imagine if face detection
> would skip hidden folders/photos.  It would be great way to reduce the
> time required for this task if you could just omit "uncle Bill's photo
> archive you just inherited" from your current working set without
> removing it totally from Digikam.    I imagine every tool that operates
> would have to understand what a hidden flag is, and it would take a lot
> of work, but I think it would be a powerful feature.

You want NOT uncle Bill's photos

Have a look:

https://www.pks.mpg.de/~mueller/docs/suse10.3/opensuse-manual_de/manual/sec.digikam.search.html

Peter

[Lukas Haase]

Hi Peter,

> Am 12.08.20 um 00:40 schrieb Lukas Haase:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just got into digiKam and I love it!
> >
> > There is just one thing that's so much missing that I find it hard to believe to not find it: Hiding/disabling of albums, ignoring albums/pictures etc.
> >
> > I only found a few old posts [1-2] on that but nothing substantial.
> >
> > I want to use digiKam for pretty much all pictures I have and this includes pictures for myself, pictures from my (extended) family and friends and then I would like to be able to use it to browse through pictures with other people. Depending on the person, I want certain items to not be visible.
> >
> > For "Albums", I added multiple collections such as Personal Pictures, and a network drive with shared fotos from family friends. For my own overview, I would like to disable for example the shared pictures when I am only interested in my own pictures.
> >
> > When I browse through the pictures with my family, I would like to remove my personal collection/albums.
> >
> > Finally, I would like to tag individual pictures in between as "private" that I can selectively disable.
> >
> > Am I just not finding this or is this really not possible?
>
> Why so much work?
>
> My picture archive consists of different folders,
> e.g "friends" "family" "private" "general",
>
> then sub-folders e.g general/2018/201803_whatever-you-like.

First: And how do you disable "private" from the timeline and map view when you browse through your stuff with a friend?

Second, if I could create a "virtual" hierarchy in digiKam and link different directories together, that could be helpful.
But I don't think this is possible, is it?
(No, bind mounts and symlinks are not an option; besides I use it on Windows)

Maybe I was not clear: I have *multiple* sources of pictures. Some are, say, my private pictures on my local machine, some my private pictures on a server, some of them are shared pictures on a server and some of them are even someone else's pictures on a network server (say, my Dads, my sister's).
All of them are used by different people and are stored in different locations.

I'd like to have all of those in digiKam because it allows great organization. It allows to look up things quickly for *myself* if I need it.
But most of the time, I do not want to have the ones I'm not interested in (say, my sister's or my dad's).
Most of the time, I want to disable the ones on a network drive (even if the network drive is accessible).

And of course, when I browse through the pictures with other people, I do not want everything to show up. Not even the names of sub-albums.
And when I browse through my timeline, I do NOT want pictures with my ex girlfriend to pop up.

> Then I use digikam's powerful extended search capabilities, and select
> exactly what I want.
>
> That is it.

This is not an option:

What makes digiKam so great is the ability to browse through collections using dates, the timeline or the map.
I would like to browse through my pictures with a friend and I do not want any pictures showing up that should not be seen!

When I browse through my collection(s) with my girlfriend, I do NOT want my ex-girlfriend to show up or the collections from my dad/sisters.

When I browse through my collection(s) with my family, I do NOT want pictures to show up where I am partying hard.

Always turning the screen away and saying "Wait, I quickly need to write a powerful extended search which only includes pictures you should see" is not an option.
And "sorry, don't click anywhere outside "Search"; I can't go with you over the timelie or map because you could see everything else" is not an option.

I do not unnecessarily want to look as if I have something to hide (which is not the case because none of my pictures are illegal or display inappropriate things) but it makes me feel comfortable when they just don't show up. (does that sound familiar? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument)

"Hey, what's this Mallorca 2007 folder?". I want to avoid these kind of questions altogether.

I understand not everyone may need this but I don't think it's reasonable to argue the need away.

> Anyway, if I had pictures which are better kept private, I would store
> them definitely in a separate folder where they cannot accidentally be
> called up.

No.

1.) It makes no sense to fragment a photo collection. Pictures belonging to trip X shall stay in the album for trip X.
2.) What is private and what not depends on the person I am browsing through my pictures with


Best,
Lukas

[Lukas Haase]

Hi Rob, Hi Peter,

> Am 12.08.20 um 16:56 schrieb Rob Dueckman:
>> I think that hidden items is a good idea myself.
>>
>> Creating searches just to hide folders you don't care about dealing
>> this at this time seems a bit time consuming when you're trying to get
>> something done.  While it could be used to hide "private" photos, it
>> seems like it might be a really cool idea to virtually shrink the
>> working set of photos you're dealing with.  Imagine if face detection
>> would skip hidden folders/photos.  It would be great way to reduce the
>> time required for this task if you could just omit "uncle Bill's photo
>> archive you just inherited" from your current working set without
>> removing it totally from Digikam.    I imagine every tool that operates
>> would have to understand what a hidden flag is, and it would take a lot
>> of work, but I think it would be a powerful feature.

Absoluetely agree.

> You want NOT uncle Bill's photos
>
> Have a look:
>
> https://www.pks.mpg.de/~mueller/docs/suse10.3/opensuse-manual_de/manual/sec.digikam.search.html

But this only applies to a search, right? Only to results showing up as search results.
It doesn't do anything to "Dates", "Timeline", "Tags/People" or "Map".

And it doesn't help to reduce the working set for face recognitions etc. as Rob was suggesting.
By the way, this is totally relevant for me too: The bulk of shared pictures (100GB+) are stored on a fileserver
which I access over OpenVPN and the Internet. Super slow. I do not want this collection to be completely removed
from digiKam but for most of the time, I don't want it to be part of my "working set".

Best,
Lukas

[Martin Burnicki-2]

Hi all,

I fully agree to what Lukas said. In addition:

- If I open an image in the editor, the editor starts up showing the
*previous* image I have edited, and then loads the image I'm going to
edit. I see no scenario where this might be helpful. So why is this
happening?

- Even if I have a collection on a removable disk, previews and search
results appear even if the removable disk is not connected. IMO it would
be better to show only search results for images from a collection that
is accessible.

Martin


Lukas Haase wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
>> Am 12.08.20 um 00:40 schrieb Lukas Haase:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just got into digiKam and I love it!
>>>
>>> There is just one thing that's so much missing that I find it hard to believe to not find it: Hiding/disabling of albums, ignoring albums/pictures etc.
>>>
>>> I only found a few old posts [1-2] on that but nothing substantial.
>>>
>>> I want to use digiKam for pretty much all pictures I have and this includes pictures for myself, pictures from my (extended) family and friends and then I would like to be able to use it to browse through pictures with other people. Depending on the person, I want certain items to not be visible.
>>>
>>> For "Albums", I added multiple collections such as Personal Pictures, and a network drive with shared fotos from family friends. For my own overview, I would like to disable for example the shared pictures when I am only interested in my own pictures.
>>>
>>> When I browse through the pictures with my family, I would like to remove my personal collection/albums.
>>>
>>> Finally, I would like to tag individual pictures in between as "private" that I can selectively disable.
>>>
>>> Am I just not finding this or is this really not possible?
>>
>> Why so much work?
>>
>> My picture archive consists of different folders,
>> e.g "friends" "family" "private" "general",
>>
>> then sub-folders e.g general/2018/201803_whatever-you-like.
>
> First: And how do you disable "private" from the timeline and map view when you browse through your stuff with a friend?
>
> Second, if I could create a "virtual" hierarchy in digiKam and link different directories together, that could be helpful.
> But I don't think this is possible, is it?
> (No, bind mounts and symlinks are not an option; besides I use it on Windows)
>
> Maybe I was not clear: I have *multiple* sources of pictures. Some are, say, my private pictures on my local machine, some my private pictures on a server, some of them are shared pictures on a server and some of them are even someone else's pictures on a network server (say, my Dads, my sister's).
> All of them are used by different people and are stored in different locations.
>
> I'd like to have all of those in digiKam because it allows great organization. It allows to look up things quickly for *myself* if I need it.
> But most of the time, I do not want to have the ones I'm not interested in (say, my sister's or my dad's).
> Most of the time, I want to disable the ones on a network drive (even if the network drive is accessible).
>
> And of course, when I browse through the pictures with other people, I do not want everything to show up. Not even the names of sub-albums.
> And when I browse through my timeline, I do NOT want pictures with my ex girlfriend to pop up.
>
>> Then I use digikam's powerful extended search capabilities, and select
>> exactly what I want.
>>
>> That is it.
>
> This is not an option:
>
> What makes digiKam so great is the ability to browse through collections using dates, the timeline or the map.
> I would like to browse through my pictures with a friend and I do not want any pictures showing up that should not be seen!
>
> When I browse through my collection(s) with my girlfriend, I do NOT want my ex-girlfriend to show up or the collections from my dad/sisters.
>
> When I browse through my collection(s) with my family, I do NOT want pictures to show up where I am partying hard.
>
> Always turning the screen away and saying "Wait, I quickly need to write a powerful extended search which only includes pictures you should see" is not an option.
> And "sorry, don't click anywhere outside "Search"; I can't go with you over the timelie or map because you could see everything else" is not an option.
>
> I do not unnecessarily want to look as if I have something to hide (which is not the case because none of my pictures are illegal or display inappropriate things) but it makes me feel comfortable when they just don't show up. (does that sound familiar? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument)
>
> "Hey, what's this Mallorca 2007 folder?". I want to avoid these kind of questions altogether.
>
> I understand not everyone may need this but I don't think it's reasonable to argue the need away.
>
>> Anyway, if I had pictures which are better kept private, I would store
>> them definitely in a separate folder where they cannot accidentally be
>> called up.
>
> No.
>
> 1.) It makes no sense to fragment a photo collection. Pictures belonging to trip X shall stay in the album for trip X.
> 2.) What is private and what not depends on the person I am browsing through my pictures with
>
>
> Best,
> Lukas
>
>
>
>
>

[themissingelf]

One way to hide folders within albums is to prefix the folder with a full
stop in Windows Explorer. Not as slick as being able to do it in DigiKam but
simple enough to add and remove the full stop depending on when you want to
see vs hide the folder.



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[themissingelf]

Placing a full stop at the beginning of the folder name in Windows Explorer
seems to hide albums.



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