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[digiKam-users] Geolocation edit without real timestamp

Tóth Csaba
Hello!

I need a help for geolocation: I have lots of scanned pictures (with no
real created timestamp), and gpx tacklogs. I'd like to correlate it. Yes
I need to do this by hand. I use the 7.0 beta Build date: May 8 2020.

How i'd like to do this: Look the picture one side of the window, and
look the gps tracklog in the another side, and depend the picture, the
orders etc try to figure out where i took the picture, and write the
geodata back to the image (context menu/button etc), and go to the next
picture.

I tried to do with the "edit geolocation" window. The thumbnails is so
tiny (4k) sometimes i just feel what is on the picture. (35x58 pixel on
a 4K screen!)
(The other settings/sizes fine for me, so I don't want to go deep into
the HDPI settings, if possible, just increase this tiny image)
(the other problem: the copy coordinates is not copied from the cursor
position, just the center of the map, but I can live with it)

I tried to do this with "preview" and right side the "map" (no tracklog)
in this case how can I modify the coordinates? there is "copy
coordinates" in the map, but nowhere "paste coordinates" in the image
side. Or a "write this coordinates into the image" button...

The "take a good look on the picture" -> "edit geolocation" -> "load
gpx" -> "try to figure out where is it" -> "copy coordinates" -> "paste
coordinates"-> "apply" -> "try again" method is very time consuming.

Any help welcome.

Thanx

Csaba





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Re: Geolocation edit without real timestamp

Remco Viëtor
On samedi 16 mai 2020 12:30:38 CEST Tóth Csaba wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I need a help for geolocation: I have lots of scanned pictures (with no
> real created timestamp), and gpx tacklogs. I'd like to correlate it. Yes
> I need to do this by hand. I use the 7.0 beta Build date: May 8 2020.
>
> How i'd like to do this: Look the picture one side of the window, and
> look the gps tracklog in the another side, and depend the picture, the
> orders etc try to figure out where i took the picture, and write the
> geodata back to the image (context menu/button etc), and go to the next
> picture.
>
> I tried to do with the "edit geolocation" window. The thumbnails is so
> tiny (4k) sometimes i just feel what is on the picture. (35x58 pixel on
> a 4K screen!)
> (The other settings/sizes fine for me, so I don't want to go deep into
> the HDPI settings, if possible, just increase this tiny image)
> (the other problem: the copy coordinates is not copied from the cursor
> position, just the center of the map, but I can live with it)
>
> I tried to do this with "preview" and right side the "map" (no tracklog)
> in this case how can I modify the coordinates? there is "copy
> coordinates" in the map, but nowhere "paste coordinates" in the image
> side. Or a "write this coordinates into the image" button...
>
> The "take a good look on the picture" -> "edit geolocation" -> "load
> gpx" -> "try to figure out where is it" -> "copy coordinates" -> "paste
> coordinates"-> "apply" -> "try again" method is very time consuming.

I think you can drop a thumbnail on the map to add the location data to the
image file.
And if the thumbnails are too small, you should be able to use a separate
image viewer to have a larger view

Remco



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Re: Geolocation edit without real timestamp

Peter Heerink
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Hello Csaba,

I do this always outsite digikam and use the programma geosetter for it.
This has a very good map ( switch to openstreetmap) and an easy GUI for showing gpx tracks and the photo's.
It has an easy way to depict the location of the photographer, the direction and his focus.
At the same time you can add then the geolocation ( country, county and town ) to it.
All this is then written into the metadata of the pictures.
Copy the picture back to Digikam afterwards


With regards
Peter Heerink


 



Op za 16 mei 2020 12:31 schreef Tóth Csaba <[hidden email]>:
Hello!

I need a help for geolocation: I have lots of scanned pictures (with no
real created timestamp), and gpx tacklogs. I'd like to correlate it. Yes
I need to do this by hand. I use the 7.0 beta Build date: May 8 2020.

How i'd like to do this: Look the picture one side of the window, and
look the gps tracklog in the another side, and depend the picture, the
orders etc try to figure out where i took the picture, and write the
geodata back to the image (context menu/button etc), and go to the next
picture.

I tried to do with the "edit geolocation" window. The thumbnails is so
tiny (4k) sometimes i just feel what is on the picture. (35x58 pixel on
a 4K screen!)
(The other settings/sizes fine for me, so I don't want to go deep into
the HDPI settings, if possible, just increase this tiny image)
(the other problem: the copy coordinates is not copied from the cursor
position, just the center of the map, but I can live with it)

I tried to do this with "preview" and right side the "map" (no tracklog)
in this case how can I modify the coordinates? there is "copy
coordinates" in the map, but nowhere "paste coordinates" in the image
side. Or a "write this coordinates into the image" button...

The "take a good look on the picture" -> "edit geolocation" -> "load
gpx" -> "try to figure out where is it" -> "copy coordinates" -> "paste
coordinates"-> "apply" -> "try again" method is very time consuming.

Any help welcome.

Thanx

Csaba





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Re: Geolocation edit without real timestamp

Tóth Csaba
Hello!
Thanx!
this is what I needed!

Thanx
Csaba

On 2020-05-16 13:21, Peter Heerink wrote:
Hello Csaba,

I do this always outsite digikam and use the programma geosetter for it.
This has a very good map ( switch to openstreetmap) and an easy GUI for showing gpx tracks and the photo's.
It has an easy way to depict the location of the photographer, the direction and his focus.
At the same time you can add then the geolocation ( country, county and town ) to it.
All this is then written into the metadata of the pictures.
Copy the picture back to Digikam afterwards


With regards
Peter Heerink


 



Op za 16 mei 2020 12:31 schreef Tóth Csaba <[hidden email]>:
Hello!

I need a help for geolocation: I have lots of scanned pictures (with no
real created timestamp), and gpx tacklogs. I'd like to correlate it. Yes
I need to do this by hand. I use the 7.0 beta Build date: May 8 2020.

How i'd like to do this: Look the picture one side of the window, and
look the gps tracklog in the another side, and depend the picture, the
orders etc try to figure out where i took the picture, and write the
geodata back to the image (context menu/button etc), and go to the next
picture.

I tried to do with the "edit geolocation" window. The thumbnails is so
tiny (4k) sometimes i just feel what is on the picture. (35x58 pixel on
a 4K screen!)
(The other settings/sizes fine for me, so I don't want to go deep into
the HDPI settings, if possible, just increase this tiny image)
(the other problem: the copy coordinates is not copied from the cursor
position, just the center of the map, but I can live with it)

I tried to do this with "preview" and right side the "map" (no tracklog)
in this case how can I modify the coordinates? there is "copy
coordinates" in the map, but nowhere "paste coordinates" in the image
side. Or a "write this coordinates into the image" button...

The "take a good look on the picture" -> "edit geolocation" -> "load
gpx" -> "try to figure out where is it" -> "copy coordinates" -> "paste
coordinates"-> "apply" -> "try again" method is very time consuming.

Any help welcome.

Thanx

Csaba






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Re: Geolocation edit without real timestamp

Maik Qualmann
This can also be done with digiKam. You can load a GPX track. Under Details
you can see a larger preview image, then simply drag & drop the image from the
image list into the map on the track.

Maik

Am Sonntag, 17. Mai 2020, 12:43:11 CEST schrieb Tóth Csaba:

> Hello!
> Thanx!
> this is what I needed!
>
> Thanx
> Csaba
>
> On 2020-05-16 13:21, Peter Heerink wrote:
> > Hello Csaba,
> >
> > I do this always outsite digikam and use the programma geosetter for it.
> > This has a very good map ( switch to openstreetmap) and an easy GUI
> > for showing gpx tracks and the photo's.
> > It has an easy way to depict the location of the photographer, the
> > direction and his focus.
> > At the same time you can add then the geolocation ( country, county
> > and town ) to it.
> > All this is then written into the metadata of the pictures.
> > Copy the picture back to Digikam afterwards
> >
> > https://geosetter.de/en/main-en/
> >
> > With regards
> > Peter Heerink
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Op za 16 mei 2020 12:31 schreef Tóth Csaba <[hidden email]
> >
> > <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
> >     Hello!
> >    
> >     I need a help for geolocation: I have lots of scanned pictures
> >     (with no
> >     real created timestamp), and gpx tacklogs. I'd like to correlate
> >     it. Yes
> >     I need to do this by hand. I use the 7.0 beta Build date: May 8 2020.
> >    
> >     How i'd like to do this: Look the picture one side of the window, and
> >     look the gps tracklog in the another side, and depend the picture,
> >     the
> >     orders etc try to figure out where i took the picture, and write the
> >     geodata back to the image (context menu/button etc), and go to the
> >     next
> >     picture.
> >    
> >     I tried to do with the "edit geolocation" window. The thumbnails
> >     is so
> >     tiny (4k) sometimes i just feel what is on the picture. (35x58
> >     pixel on
> >     a 4K screen!)
> >     (The other settings/sizes fine for me, so I don't want to go deep
> >     into
> >     the HDPI settings, if possible, just increase this tiny image)
> >     (the other problem: the copy coordinates is not copied from the
> >     cursor
> >     position, just the center of the map, but I can live with it)
> >    
> >     I tried to do this with "preview" and right side the "map" (no
> >     tracklog)
> >     in this case how can I modify the coordinates? there is "copy
> >     coordinates" in the map, but nowhere "paste coordinates" in the image
> >     side. Or a "write this coordinates into the image" button...
> >    
> >     The "take a good look on the picture" -> "edit geolocation" -> "load
> >     gpx" -> "try to figure out where is it" -> "copy coordinates" ->
> >     "paste
> >     coordinates"-> "apply" -> "try again" method is very time consuming.
> >    
> >     Any help welcome.
> >    
> >     Thanx
> >    
> >     Csaba




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Tóth Csaba
Hello!
Ok, thanx.
I never know there is a "detail" and i can drag&drop the image.

thanx
Csaba

On 2020-05-17 12:51, Maik Qualmann wrote:

> This can also be done with digiKam. You can load a GPX track. Under Details
> you can see a larger preview image, then simply drag & drop the image from the
> image list into the map on the track.
>
> Maik
>
> Am Sonntag, 17. Mai 2020, 12:43:11 CEST schrieb Tóth Csaba:
>> Hello!
>> Thanx!
>> this is what I needed!
>>
>> Thanx
>> Csaba
>>
>> On 2020-05-16 13:21, Peter Heerink wrote:
>>> Hello Csaba,
>>>
>>> I do this always outsite digikam and use the programma geosetter for it.
>>> This has a very good map ( switch to openstreetmap) and an easy GUI
>>> for showing gpx tracks and the photo's.
>>> It has an easy way to depict the location of the photographer, the
>>> direction and his focus.
>>> At the same time you can add then the geolocation ( country, county
>>> and town ) to it.
>>> All this is then written into the metadata of the pictures.
>>> Copy the picture back to Digikam afterwards
>>>
>>> https://geosetter.de/en/main-en/
>>>
>>> With regards
>>> Peter Heerink
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Op za 16 mei 2020 12:31 schreef Tóth Csaba <[hidden email]
>>>
>>> <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>>>      Hello!
>>>      
>>>      I need a help for geolocation: I have lots of scanned pictures
>>>      (with no
>>>      real created timestamp), and gpx tacklogs. I'd like to correlate
>>>      it. Yes
>>>      I need to do this by hand. I use the 7.0 beta Build date: May 8 2020.
>>>      
>>>      How i'd like to do this: Look the picture one side of the window, and
>>>      look the gps tracklog in the another side, and depend the picture,
>>>      the
>>>      orders etc try to figure out where i took the picture, and write the
>>>      geodata back to the image (context menu/button etc), and go to the
>>>      next
>>>      picture.
>>>      
>>>      I tried to do with the "edit geolocation" window. The thumbnails
>>>      is so
>>>      tiny (4k) sometimes i just feel what is on the picture. (35x58
>>>      pixel on
>>>      a 4K screen!)
>>>      (The other settings/sizes fine for me, so I don't want to go deep
>>>      into
>>>      the HDPI settings, if possible, just increase this tiny image)
>>>      (the other problem: the copy coordinates is not copied from the
>>>      cursor
>>>      position, just the center of the map, but I can live with it)
>>>      
>>>      I tried to do this with "preview" and right side the "map" (no
>>>      tracklog)
>>>      in this case how can I modify the coordinates? there is "copy
>>>      coordinates" in the map, but nowhere "paste coordinates" in the image
>>>      side. Or a "write this coordinates into the image" button...
>>>      
>>>      The "take a good look on the picture" -> "edit geolocation" -> "load
>>>      gpx" -> "try to figure out where is it" -> "copy coordinates" ->
>>>      "paste
>>>      coordinates"-> "apply" -> "try again" method is very time consuming.
>>>      
>>>      Any help welcome.
>>>      
>>>      Thanx
>>>      
>>>      Csaba
>
>
>

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Re: Geolocation edit without real timestamp

Paul Marfell
I hope I understand the issue, and it might be overkill, but darktable can add GPS data to an image automatically from a recorded trail. You can specify a time offset if your camera time is not spot on. I don't record trails myself so have never used it. 

On Sun, 17 May 2020, 19:05 Tóth Csaba, <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello!
Ok, thanx.
I never know there is a "detail" and i can drag&drop the image.

thanx
Csaba

On 2020-05-17 12:51, Maik Qualmann wrote:
> This can also be done with digiKam. You can load a GPX track. Under Details
> you can see a larger preview image, then simply drag & drop the image from the
> image list into the map on the track.
>
> Maik
>
> Am Sonntag, 17. Mai 2020, 12:43:11 CEST schrieb Tóth Csaba:
>> Hello!
>> Thanx!
>> this is what I needed!
>>
>> Thanx
>> Csaba
>>
>> On 2020-05-16 13:21, Peter Heerink wrote:
>>> Hello Csaba,
>>>
>>> I do this always outsite digikam and use the programma geosetter for it.
>>> This has a very good map ( switch to openstreetmap) and an easy GUI
>>> for showing gpx tracks and the photo's.
>>> It has an easy way to depict the location of the photographer, the
>>> direction and his focus.
>>> At the same time you can add then the geolocation ( country, county
>>> and town ) to it.
>>> All this is then written into the metadata of the pictures.
>>> Copy the picture back to Digikam afterwards
>>>
>>> https://geosetter.de/en/main-en/
>>>
>>> With regards
>>> Peter Heerink
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Op za 16 mei 2020 12:31 schreef Tóth Csaba <[hidden email]
>>>
>>> <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>>>      Hello!
>>>     
>>>      I need a help for geolocation: I have lots of scanned pictures
>>>      (with no
>>>      real created timestamp), and gpx tacklogs. I'd like to correlate
>>>      it. Yes
>>>      I need to do this by hand. I use the 7.0 beta Build date: May 8 2020.
>>>     
>>>      How i'd like to do this: Look the picture one side of the window, and
>>>      look the gps tracklog in the another side, and depend the picture,
>>>      the
>>>      orders etc try to figure out where i took the picture, and write the
>>>      geodata back to the image (context menu/button etc), and go to the
>>>      next
>>>      picture.
>>>     
>>>      I tried to do with the "edit geolocation" window. The thumbnails
>>>      is so
>>>      tiny (4k) sometimes i just feel what is on the picture. (35x58
>>>      pixel on
>>>      a 4K screen!)
>>>      (The other settings/sizes fine for me, so I don't want to go deep
>>>      into
>>>      the HDPI settings, if possible, just increase this tiny image)
>>>      (the other problem: the copy coordinates is not copied from the
>>>      cursor
>>>      position, just the center of the map, but I can live with it)
>>>     
>>>      I tried to do this with "preview" and right side the "map" (no
>>>      tracklog)
>>>      in this case how can I modify the coordinates? there is "copy
>>>      coordinates" in the map, but nowhere "paste coordinates" in the image
>>>      side. Or a "write this coordinates into the image" button...
>>>     
>>>      The "take a good look on the picture" -> "edit geolocation" -> "load
>>>      gpx" -> "try to figure out where is it" -> "copy coordinates" ->
>>>      "paste
>>>      coordinates"-> "apply" -> "try again" method is very time consuming.
>>>     
>>>      Any help welcome.
>>>     
>>>      Thanx
>>>     
>>>      Csaba
>
>
>

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Re: Geolocation edit without real timestamp

Remco Viëtor
On lundi 18 mai 2020 15:25:57 CEST Paul Marfell wrote:
> I hope I understand the issue, and it might be overkill, but darktable can
> add GPS data to an image automatically from a recorded trail. You can
> specify a time offset if your camera time is not spot on. I don't record
> trails myself so have never used it.

Possible, but this is a *digikam* mailing list :P