digiKam and Kipi-plugins 1.8.0 released...

[Gilles Caulier-4]

Dear all digiKam fans and users!

The digiKam development team is happy to release 1.8.0.

For more details, see announcement on digikam.org:

http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/567
http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/568

Best Regards...

Gilles Caulier
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[J Albrecht]

Fantastic work! Thank you very much for your tremendous effort :-)

Now, moving on... Is anything progressing on the front to provide an all-encompassing set of FULL instructions for the many Newbs out here who still have trouble compiling the program and all of its various dependencies? It truly is a shame not to be able to enjoy the updated features of this terrific program because we're simple photographers but not coding wizards :-(

On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 22:34 +0100, Gilles Caulier wrote:

Dear all digiKam fans and users!

The digiKam development team is happy to release 1.8.0.

For more details, see announcement on digikam.org:

http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/567
http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/568

Best Regards...

Gilles Caulier
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mercoledì 26 gennaio 2011 alle 00:01, Hevï Guy ha scritto:
> Now, moving on... Is anything progressing on the front to provide an
> all-encompassing set of FULL instructions for the many Newbs out here
> who still have trouble compiling the program and all of its various
> dependencies? It truly is a shame not to be able to enjoy the updated
> features of this terrific program because we're simple photographers but
> not coding wizards :-(
Well the right way should be to ask for it to your distro digikam/kipi-plugins
maintainer.
Most distros backport or update these packages.

I see the problem in building source though...
an easier way is to import old package source description from your distro repository
(i.e. spec file for rpm, don't know for deb) and change it to new version.
If that is written right, it should fail for dependency first, and give you the right
packages to install.

HTH,
        Angelo

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On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 15:12 +0100, Angelo Naselli wrote:

Well the right way should be to ask for it to your distro digikam/kipi-plugins
maintainer.
Most distros backport or update these packages.

The Ubuntu maintainers aren't known for their ability (or willingness?!) to update packages. For example, the current version of DigiKam within the Ubuntu repositories is 1.4! Therefore, unless we wish to use an ancient version, we're forced to compile our own.

I see the problem in building source though... 

No kidding!

This is the crux: Many of us are mere photographers rather than programming experts. I'm sure that I speak for most people in my situation when I say that I am very appreciative of the effort that's put into developing this great program. However, we're also very frustrated that in order to use it, we have to compile not only the core program but also its dependencies. Granted, there are instructions available on the DigiKam site but, they are somewhat disjointed and incomplete. They take for granted that the non-coders will know what is missing and are thus able to fill-in the blanks.

I'm not asking to be given something that we can install by the click of one button (although it would be nice!). All I'm asking for is that if we have to compile a bunch of stuff, a road map (a detailed road map) is provided. If anybody is willing to do this, pretend that you're writing it for a two year-old child. Then the instructions should be easy enough for us to follow. No wait: I'm sure that any two year-old living with a serious coder would be more capable than me. A better idea would be to write the instructions as if your hamster is to read it.
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On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Hevï Guy <[hidden email]> wrote:

The Ubuntu maintainers aren't known for their ability (or willingness?!) to update packages. For example, the current version of DigiKam within the Ubuntu repositories is 1.4! Therefore, unless we wish to use an ancient version, we're forced to compile our own.

If you want a more up-to-date package for Ubuntu, the place to look is Launchpad.  For instance:

https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/extra

...has digikam 1.8 compiled for Ubuntu Maverick.  I'm not the owner of the packages, but I've been using them for some time and haven't had any problems.  If you run:

sudo apt-add repository ppa:philip5/extra
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

..that will (i) add that package source to the list on your system, (ii) update the list of available packages, (iii) upgrade all your packages (including those of digikam) to the latest version.

Andrew


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On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Andrew Coles <[hidden email]> wrote:

sudo apt-add repository ppa:philip5/extra

Oops, a typo (the irony is not lost ;) ).  That should be:

sudo apt-add-repository ppa:philip5/extra

Andrew


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[J Albrecht]

Hi Andrew,

Thank-you!  I've used this repository (I'm running dK v 1.7). However, through a lot of hand-holding, I also had to recompile certain dependencies in order to update exiv2. I'd like to now update to v 1.8 but I loathe having to bother the group once again. I'd rather just quietly follow some instructions.

I didn't think that the PPA is updated with the v1.8. Even if it is, I wonder if I have to recompile exiv2 again. Another thing that concerns me is that Synaptic Update Manager wants me to install a "new" version of exiv which seems, actually, to be the old one in the Ubuntu repository! I feel that I'm running with a patched-up system!

Thanks again for your comments.


On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 16:08 +0000, Andrew Coles wrote:

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Andrew Coles <[hidden email]> wrote:

sudo apt-add repository ppa:philip5/extra

Oops, a typo (the irony is not lost ;) ).  That should be:

sudo apt-add-repository ppa:philip5/extra


Andrew

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> > Well the right way should be to ask for it to your distro digikam/kipi-plugins
> > maintainer.
> > Most distros backport or update these packages.
> >
>
> The Ubuntu maintainers aren't known for their ability (or willingness?!)
> to update packages. For example, the current version of DigiKam within
> the Ubuntu repositories is 1.4! Therefore, unless we wish to use an
> ancient version, we're forced to compile our own.
I said what should be the best way to, i can't say what Ubuntu does.
I'm digikam packager and maintainer in Mandriva, and becoming in Mageia.
As far as i can, i provide backports and updates, and Nicolas L. do
that when i'm not able to for any reasons.
 
> > I see the problem in building source though...
>
> No kidding!
I do not, really!

Ok, I'm a developer, and yes I'm also a packager, but that does not
mean i don't see that. If you look at old mails as far as i could
i've always answered (also in private) with mini-howto to help
people in building kipi & co. digikam and gwenview.
I've also often fighted against depending on kde trunk but i was
alone, and i think it's not always possible to be compatible with
most user distros. Kde 4 has changed a lot since Kde 3 and certainly
all distros are not using the same version, not to say patches added...
No easy indeed.
I used to build gwenview in my distro, and to release it on gv site,
but who could use it? only those one who had the same configuration
i had and. So i am, again, strongly sure the best way is the official
distro maintainer.

Sorry i can't say more. I don't use Ubuntu, I don't like it and i cannot
help you for that, if i had it and i was able to build on it i would have
provided you a package, this is simple me.

Cheers,
        Angelo

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[J Albrecht]

Thanks for your comments, Angelo. It would be nice if your counterparts on the Ubuntu side would be as understanding and diligent in their updates as you are!

Ciao



On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 18:35 +0100, Angelo Naselli wrote:

> > Well the right way should be to ask for it to your distro digikam/kipi-plugins
> > maintainer.
> > Most distros backport or update these packages.
> > 
> 
> The Ubuntu maintainers aren't known for their ability (or willingness?!)
> to update packages. For example, the current version of DigiKam within
> the Ubuntu repositories is 1.4! Therefore, unless we wish to use an
> ancient version, we're forced to compile our own.
I said what should be the best way to, i can't say what Ubuntu does.
I'm digikam packager and maintainer in Mandriva, and becoming in Mageia.
As far as i can, i provide backports and updates, and Nicolas L. do
that when i'm not able to for any reasons. 
 
> > I see the problem in building source though... 
> 
> No kidding!
I do not, really!

Ok, I'm a developer, and yes I'm also a packager, but that does not
mean i don't see that. If you look at old mails as far as i could
i've always answered (also in private) with mini-howto to help
people in building kipi & co. digikam and gwenview.
I've also often fighted against depending on kde trunk but i was 
alone, and i think it's not always possible to be compatible with
most user distros. Kde 4 has changed a lot since Kde 3 and certainly
all distros are not using the same version, not to say patches added...
No easy indeed.
I used to build gwenview in my distro, and to release it on gv site, 
but who could use it? only those one who had the same configuration 
i had and. So i am, again, strongly sure the best way is the official
distro maintainer. 

Sorry i can't say more. I don't use Ubuntu, I don't like it and i cannot
help you for that, if i had it and i was able to build on it i would have 
provided you a package, this is simple me.

Cheers,
	Angelo

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Am Freitag, 28. Januar 2011, 20:58:50 schrieb Linuxguy123:
> > I don't mind the work at all. It's actually very interesting. The
> > false starts and dead ends are just very frustrating. For an old
> > codger such as me, this hinders rather than helps the learning
> > process!
>
> If you enjoy that sort of thing, you should be running Fedora.  At least
> in Fedora you have access to -unstable and -testing, which gets you most
> of what you get when you build without the building process and with
> community support.

He might also have a look at openSUSE's buildservice. It can build packages
for different distros and makes it easy to compile even daily snapshots of
e.g. digikam2 automatically - as they are currently offered for openSUSE.

http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=digikam2&baseproject=openSUSE%3A11.3&lang=de&exclude_filter=home%3A&exclude_debug=true

https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=digikam2&project=KDE%3AUnstable%3APlayground

Sven
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