Testers needed.

Hi,

Tomorrow I will pack digiKam 0.8.1, but i have a problem. I recently added
support for the media:/ kio which will make life of a lot of users better.
Under 'camera' there is a new option browse media, which will hold the
attached cameras.

The problem is that this feature is not yet tested. I would love it if you
could install it and test it, so i can decide if it should get it in the
release or removed.

To test:
http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/0.8.0/digikam-0.8.1-rc2.tar.bz2

Or kubuntu dapper users:
http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/tmp/
(rc1, does not contain auto unmount, rc2 will arrive later tonight)

Tom

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[Dik Takken]

I would love to test this, but my attempts to upgrade from HAL 0.4 to HAL
0.5 have failed. The reason why I failed is that I need HAL to call my
home-made BASH scripts when new devices are added. With HAL 0.4 you can
have it call a BASH script and add all device properties to its
environment. As far as I could tell, HAL 0.5 no longer has this feature...

If somebody can prove me wrong, I would love to upgrade to HAL 0.5 and
test new DigiKam versions.

Cheers,

Dik
Hi,

Tomorrow I will pack digiKam 0.8.1, but i have a problem. I recently added
support for the media:/ kio which will make life of a lot of users better.
Under 'camera' there is a new option browse media, which will hold the
attached cameras.

The problem is that this feature is not yet tested. I would love it if you
could install it and test it, so i can decide if it should get it in the
release or removed.

To test:
http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/0.8.0/digikam-0.8.1-rc2.tar.bz2

Or kubuntu dapper users:
http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/tmp/
(rc1, does not contain auto unmount, rc2 will arrive later tonight)

Tom

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Hi,

On Sunday 15 January 2006 20:34, Tom Albers wrote:
>
> The problem is that this feature is not yet tested. I would love
> it if you could install it and test it, so i can decide if it
> should get it in the release or removed.
>
> To test:
> http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/0.8.0/digikam-0.8.1-rc2.tar.bz2

I just downloaded it and try to compile it right now.

BTW: configure complained about a missing imlib2, but it is
installed?!?


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On Sunday 15 January 2006 21:09, Heiner Lamprecht wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Sunday 15 January 2006 20:34, Tom Albers wrote:
> > The problem is that this feature is not yet tested. I would
> > love it if you could install it and test it, so i can decide if
> > it should get it in the release or removed.
> >
> > To test:
> > http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/0.8.0/digikam-0.8.1-rc2.tar.bz2
>
> I just downloaded it and try to compile it right now.

As expected, it failed due to missing imlib2. ;-(

rpm -q imlib2
imlib2-1.1.1-9

But configure doesn't find it and wants to have 1.0.6.  On the other
hand, I have digikam 0.8.0 installed, and it runs without problems.  
It's a rather fresh SuSE-10.

So, what to do?  Shall I install the old imlib2, or is the configure
wrong?


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On Sunday 15 January 2006 20:19, Heiner Lamprecht wrote:

> On Sunday 15 January 2006 21:09, Heiner Lamprecht wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sunday 15 January 2006 20:34, Tom Albers wrote:
> > > The problem is that this feature is not yet tested. I would
> > > love it if you could install it and test it, so i can decide if
> > > it should get it in the release or removed.
> > >
> > > To test:
> > > http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/0.8.0/digikam-0.8.1-rc2.tar.bz2
> >
> > I just downloaded it and try to compile it right now.
>
> As expected, it failed due to missing imlib2. ;-(
>
> rpm -q imlib2
> imlib2-1.1.1-9

imlib2-dev ? :)
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Am Sonntag 15 Januar 2006 20:34 schrieb Tom Albers:
> To test:
> http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/0.8.0/digikam-0.8.1-rc2.tar.bz2

OK, here is my report based on KDE-3.5-SVN, HAL 4.8 and a cardreader on Linux
2.6.14. Cause 2.6.14 is _very_ slow when transferring data to a vfat
partition that is synced mounted, I do not use this option and normally mount
and unmount the device via the media kicker applet.

When plug-in the cardreader I see an icon in kicker, the card is mounted and a
konqi-window is open (my standard). When starting digiKam rc2 I see a new
menu Camera->Browse Media and a list of all devices incl. NFS partitions and
my cardreader option.

Curious I choose my unmounted /boot partition which also has a square
character at the end of the menu text. digikam tries to mount this partition
(without having the rights), opens five download windows and hangs.

Next try: Now I try to open another option of the media browse menu. But these
do not show any reaction.

I also discovered a new menu in the kicker media browser called "digiKam mount
and download" which is BTW too technical and too long ;-) This opens a new
instance of digiKam (which I do not like very much) and opens the download
window. Downloading this way works fine.

I did not found a unmount option in digikam but I could unmount via the kicker
applet and this does not produce any bad influence to the running digiKam
instance.

So, as a reviewer I would vote to deactivate this option as default cause
- its on the wrong place, this optiton has to be part of the camera config
menu and an alternative to static mounting
- it offers a choice which can make digiKam hang
- the main media browse menu has here no working function
- it too unfinished for a stable version

If possible lets active it with a configure option.

HTH

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On Sunday 15 January 2006 22:11, Duncan Hill wrote:
> On Sunday 15 January 2006 20:19, Heiner Lamprecht wrote:
> >
> > rpm -q imlib2
> > imlib2-1.1.1-9
>
> imlib2-dev ? :)

Well, I would like to, and already looked for it.  But it doesn't
seem to be on my SuSE-DVD ;-(

So I have to search for an appropriate package tomorrow.


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Hi Thorsten,

thanks for testign!

> Curious I choose my unmounted /boot partition which also has a square
> character at the end of the menu text. digikam tries to mount this
> partition (without having the rights), opens five download windows and
> hangs.
>
> Next try: Now I try to open another option of the media browse menu. But
> these do not show any reaction.

Hu, was your cardreaser in the menu and what did it do?

> I also discovered a new menu in the kicker media browser called "digiKam
> mount and download" which is BTW too technical and too long ;-) This opens
> a new instance of digiKam (which I do not like very much) and opens the
> download window. Downloading this way works fine.

This should not open a new instance, but connect to the running one. Achim?

> I did not found a unmount option in digikam but I could unmount via the
> kicker applet and this does not produce any bad influence to the running
> digiKam instance.

if unmounted clicked on the media thing in digiKam it will umount when you
leave the download dialog. If you choose mount & start digikam digikam will
see it was mounted before digikam started and will not umount it (of course).

> So, as a reviewer I would vote to deactivate this option as default cause
> - its on the wrong place, this optiton has to be part of the camera config

No, the menu is dynamic, when you plugin the camera after digikam is started
it will become visible in the menu. there is nothing to do in the camera
config...

> menu and an alternative to static mounting
> - it offers a choice which can make digiKam hang

It will show all media devices, it can not decide if /boot will contain images
or not ;-)

> - the main media browse menu has here no working function

That should not be true.

> - it too unfinished for a stable version
>
> If possible lets active it with a configure option.

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[Tung NGUYEN]

It does not work at all :-(.

I have:

- hda1 ( mounted ) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens

- hda5 ( /home, mounted ) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens

- hda6 ( mounted ) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens

- hda8 ( /, mounted ) + square character : Camera->Media Browse  => 2 download
dialogs + 2 messages "Failed to list files in /hda8" + I can not close the 2
download dialogs.

- hdc (CD-RW, mounted) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens

- hdc (DVD-RW, mounted) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens

- fd0 (floppy, mounted) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens

I have no error messages in Konsole.

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Op zondag 15 januari 2006 23:00, schreef Tung NGUYEN:
> It does not work at all :-(.

Are you both working on kde < 3.5 ?  If so, are you able to mount (and after
that access) the devices as the user who runs digikam?

Toma

> I have:
>
> - hda1 ( mounted ) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens
>
> - hda5 ( /home, mounted ) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens
>
> - hda6 ( mounted ) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens
>
> - hda8 ( /, mounted ) + square character : Camera->Media Browse  => 2
> download dialogs + 2 messages "Failed to list files in /hda8" + I can not
> close the 2 download dialogs.
>
> - hdc (CD-RW, mounted) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens
>
> - hdc (DVD-RW, mounted) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens
>
> - fd0 (floppy, mounted) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens
>
> I have no error messages in Konsole.
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Am Sonntag 15 Januar 2006 22:40 schrieb Tom Albers:

> Hi Thorsten,
>
> thanks for testign!
>
> > Curious I choose my unmounted /boot partition which also has a square
> > character at the end of the menu text. digikam tries to mount this
> > partition (without having the rights), opens five download windows and
> > hangs.
> >
> > Next try: Now I try to open another option of the media browse menu. But
> > these do not show any reaction.
>
> Hu, was your cardreaser in the menu and what did it do?

Yes. I use a standard HAL setup so its not really the cardreader that appears
but the the label of the (here) CF-card. I tried clicking with a mouted and
also with a unmounted card but nothing happens and no message in konsole
output. I attach a screenshot of my menu and want to point to the small
square of the first option. This is the only option I can choose, but this
leads digikam to hang.

> > I also discovered a new menu in the kicker media browser called "digiKam
> > mount and download" which is BTW too technical and too long ;-) This
> > opens a new instance of digiKam (which I do not like very much) and opens
> > the download window. Downloading this way works fine.
>
> This should not open a new instance, but connect to the running one. Achim?

Just tests this again: A new instance opens but both instances have an open
download window.

> > I did not found a unmount option in digikam but I could unmount via the
> > kicker applet and this does not produce any bad influence to the running
> > digiKam instance.
>
> if unmounted clicked on the media thing in digiKam it will umount when you
> leave the download dialog. If you choose mount & start digikam digikam will
> see it was mounted before digikam started and will not umount it (of
> course).

OK, I see. But in the applet we then have two mount commands which looks
strange. I think its better to hide this (un)mounting from the user in the
menu. The applet option "Open in new window" does also mount on demand and is
not called "mount and open" when the device is still unmounted.
Auto-unmounting seems to be quite unsual for media-clients but I like it :-)

> > So, as a reviewer I would vote to deactivate this option as default cause
> > - its on the wrong place, this optiton has to be part of the camera
> > config
>
> No, the menu is dynamic, when you plugin the camera after digikam is
> started it will become visible in the menu. there is nothing to do in the
> camera config...

But some users are used to config their cameras in the main config window.
They do not see this new option. And the current browse menu looks somehow
crowded. In the kicker applet I can also choose what device interests me so
IMHO I think its better to give the user an option to config what
device/card/partition the user is interested in and only shows these
dynamically in the camera menu when they are plugged it in.

> > menu and an alternative to static mounting
> > - it offers a choice which can make digiKam hang
>
> It will show all media devices, it can not decide if /boot will contain
> images or not ;-)

But can you reproduce the number of four (not five) open download windows that
can not be closed so you have to kill digikam? This should not happen.

> > - the main media browse menu has here no working function
>
> That should not be true.

Do I need newer libs/tools?

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Am Sonntag 15 Januar 2006 23:13 schrieb Tom Albers:
> Op zondag 15 januari 2006 23:00, schreef Tung NGUYEN:
> > It does not work at all :-(.
>
> Are you both working on kde < 3.5 ?  If so, are you able to mount (and
> after that access) the devices as the user who runs digikam?

Hmm, maybe tomorrow. My office computer still runs kde 3.4.x. But much work to
do. Not sure if I find the time for testing.

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[Tung NGUYEN]

Le Dimanche 15 Janvier 2006 23:13, Tom Albers a écrit :

I use KDE 3.4.2, can you give me the command which allows a normal user to
mount a device ?

> Op zondag 15 januari 2006 23:00, schreef Tung NGUYEN:
> > It does not work at all :-(.
>
> Are you both working on kde < 3.5 ?  If so, are you able to mount (and
> after that access) the devices as the user who runs digikam?
>
> Toma
>
> > I have:
> >
> > - hda1 ( mounted ) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens
> >
> > - hda5 ( /home, mounted ) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens
> >
> > - hda6 ( mounted ) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens
> >
> > - hda8 ( /, mounted ) + square character : Camera->Media Browse  => 2
> > download dialogs + 2 messages "Failed to list files in /hda8" + I can not
> > close the 2 download dialogs.
> >
> > - hdc (CD-RW, mounted) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens
> >
> > - hdc (DVD-RW, mounted) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens
> >
> > - fd0 (floppy, mounted) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens
> >
> > I have no error messages in Konsole.
> >
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Am Montag 16 Januar 2006 00:17 schrieb Tung NGUYEN:
> Le Dimanche 15 Janvier 2006 23:13, Tom Albers a écrit :
> > Are you both working on kde < 3.5 ?  If so, are you able to mount (and
> > after that access) the devices as the user who runs digikam?
> > >
> > > - hda5 ( /home, mounted ) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens

> I use KDE 3.4.2, can you give me the command which allows a normal user to
> mount a device ?

As you have a mounted /home partition which you can access as user for sure I
think this test Tom asked for already failed on your system.

As user you can only mount partitions that are part of your /etc/fstab and you
use something like
mount /home
as user or (e.g.)
mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda5 /home -o rw,user
as root.

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[Tung NGUYEN]

Trank you for the explanation.
---
Tung.

Le Lundi 16 Janvier 2006 00:28, Thorsten Schnebeck a écrit :

> Am Montag 16 Januar 2006 00:17 schrieb Tung NGUYEN:
> > Le Dimanche 15 Janvier 2006 23:13, Tom Albers a écrit :
> > > Are you both working on kde < 3.5 ?  If so, are you able to mount (and
> > > after that access) the devices as the user who runs digikam?
> > >
> > > > - hda5 ( /home, mounted ) : Camera->Media Browse => nothing happens
> >
> > I use KDE 3.4.2, can you give me the command which allows a normal user
> > to mount a device ?
>
> As you have a mounted /home partition which you can access as user for sure
> I think this test Tom asked for already failed on your system.
>
> As user you can only mount partitions that are part of your /etc/fstab and
> you use something like
> mount /home
> as user or (e.g.)
> mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda5 /home -o rw,user
> as root.
>
> Bye
>
>   Thorsten
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Le Dimanche 15 Janvier 2006 20:34, Tom Albers a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> Tomorrow I will pack digiKam 0.8.1, but i have a problem. I recently added
> support for the media:/ kio which will make life of a lot of users better.
> Under 'camera' there is a new option browse media, which will hold the
> attached cameras.
>
> The problem is that this feature is not yet tested. I would love it if you
> could install it and test it, so i can decide if it should get it in the
> release or removed.

The better way to do it is to make a BETA release. I recommend you to don't
add new features just before a final release. This is the only way to prevent
any problems.

Why not to delay this feature to 0.8.2 ?

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Op maandag 16 januari 2006 07:25, schreef Gilles Caulier:

> Le Dimanche 15 Janvier 2006 20:34, Tom Albers a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > Tomorrow I will pack digiKam 0.8.1, but i have a problem. I recently
> > added support for the media:/ kio which will make life of a lot of users
> > better. Under 'camera' there is a new option browse media, which will
> > hold the attached cameras.
> >
> > The problem is that this feature is not yet tested. I would love it if
> > you could install it and test it, so i can decide if it should get it in
> > the release or removed.
>
> The better way to do it is to make a BETA release. I recommend you to don't
> add new features just before a final release. This is the only way to
> prevent any problems.
>
> Why not to delay this feature to 0.8.2 ?

yep, achim and me decided the same yesterday....

Toma

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