Hi,
There seems to be no real solution on how to remove unwanted tags in DK. System opensuse tumbleweed, digikam 5.3.0 I have tagged the pictures on my computer with digikam for ages, and of course occasionally reorganized the tag tree. Sometimes tags pop up which seem impossible to remove. As I understand the standard procedure for consolidating the tag tree is: Make sure the xmps and photos are writeable. First - use maintenance mode to update from database to (xmp and photos) Second - use maintenance mode to update from (xmp and photos) to database) Now the same tags should be "everywhere". Test with one tag: Unmark lazy synchronization Select in extended search the tag you want to remove Select all photos which match that tag Unmark the tag and apply Repeat if necessary until no photos show that tag any more. Expected result- all photos lose that tag. Test: Use maintenance mode to update from (xmp and photos) to database) And f*§%k, the tag is still in those photos. What went wrong? cu Peter |
Am 18.01.2017 um 00:30 schrieb Peter Mc Donough:
> ... > Test: Use maintenance mode to update from (xmp and photos) to database) > And f*§%k, the tag is still in those photos. > What went wrong? I forgot: General setup is allow reading from and writin to xmp and photos. cu Peter |
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Hello Peter, I am having the same issue.Best regards, Andrey Goreev On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Peter Mc Donough <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi, |
Actually, could you download the latest appimage (ver 5.4.0) and try it? I think it has a bleeding edge exiv2 which might solved the issue. I have had the same problems for sure but I kind of gave up on it and forgot when I checked it last time. Best regards, Andrey Goreev On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Andrey Goreev <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Am 18.01.2017 um 00:41 schrieb Andrey Goreev:
> Hello Peter, > > I am having the same issue. > Do you have any other picture management software installed on your > computer? I also use darktable, but not for tagging, only for rating. All existing tags are set with digikam version 4.x ... > If that is not a case for you I suspect that previous versions of digiKam > might wrote tags to more fields than digiKam 5. The list of the fields > where digiKam writes tags to can be found in Settings / Metadata / Advanced > / Tags. Might be, but why can I remove tags in digikam and they turn up again, when maintenance writes from files to database. If they cannot be deleted by digikam, then it should not be possible to untag them with digikam in the first place. I did a test with digikam, making sure the database and files tags (all writeable) are the same. I emptied and deleted the tags, then I deleted the database and the .xmps - then maintenance files to database - tags return(!). I probably need some exiftool magic to get rid of unwanted tags. ... > > Also, there is an option called "Wipe all tags from database only" in Tags > / Tag Manager / Sync Export which might help. I have never used it though. > Please do full backup of your collection if you do. The most efficient wiping ist "deleting database" and that I did, without success. I miss an option: "remove all tags digikam can see". cu Peter |
Can you run exiftool -a -G1 -s /PATH/FILE command on one of the files and see what the output is? Let me know if the unwanted tag is under [XMP-microsoft] LastKeywordIPTCBest regards, Andrey Goreev On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Peter Mc Donough <[hidden email]> wrote: Am 18.01.2017 um 00:41 schrieb Andrey Goreev: |
Am 18.01.2017 um 23:27 schrieb Andrey Goreev:
> Can you run exiftool -a -G1 -s /PATH/FILE command on one of the files and > see what the output is? > Let me know if the unwanted tag is under [XMP-microsoft] LastKeywordIPTC No, the keyword is "04 - Winter" in [IPTC] Keywords : 04 - Winter If you wish I could send you a PM with the whole exiftool output together with the photo cu Peter |
Am 18.01.2017 um 23:46 schrieb Peter Mc Donough:
> Am 18.01.2017 um 23:27 schrieb Andrey Goreev: >> Can you run exiftool -a -G1 -s /PATH/FILE command on one of the files and >> see what the output is? >> Let me know if the unwanted tag is under [XMP-microsoft] LastKeywordIPTC > > No, the keyword is "04 - Winter" in > [IPTC] Keywords : 04 - Winter > I just found out, only jpgs stubbornly keep their tags, of course, raw-photos are not written to. cu Peter |
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I am just a digiKam user so I think you better send a sample to Gilles. My digiKam set to read / write IPTS IIM Application2 Keywords. (Settings/Metadata/Advanced) Best regards, Andrey Goreev On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Peter Mc Donough <[hidden email]> wrote: Am 18.01.2017 um 23:27 schrieb Andrey Goreev: |
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Hello I have the same issue, with both DK 5.3 and DK 5.4: I have some unrequired tags in tags list, and, even if I remove them from pictures in DK, select all the updated pictures and click "write metadata in disk" (in pictures which have appropriate write and write permissions), after refreshing, these tags come back. I identified one origin of this issue: my pictures are stored in a synology NAS under photos station which write some of these tags in related files. Even if pictures in digikam where removed from the unwanted tags, tags is still stored in the related files and so, when refreshing, DK read these files and so the unappropriated tags. Removing unrequired tags from photo station have made disappear some of these unrequired tags from digikam after refresh. But not for all.... And I don't know why. I'm quite sure that pictures involved are both JPG and CR2 files. Hope this comment can help. Regards 2017-01-18 23:46 GMT+01:00 Peter Mc Donough <[hidden email]>: Am 18.01.2017 um 23:27 schrieb Andrey Goreev: |
Here is the output of exiftool -a -G1 -s on a sample file. Tag "home" was removed long time ago however it is still written to many fields in the metadata.[ExifTool] ExifToolVersion : 10.31 [ExifTool] Warning : [minor] Fixed incorrect URI for xmlns:MicrosoftPhoto [System] Directory : D:/Family Pictures [System] FileSize : 1251 kB [System] FileModifyDate : 2017:01:18 16:09:14-07:00 [System] FileAccessDate : 2016:12:16 21:52:59-07:00 [System] FileCreateDate : 2016:03:25 11:59:30-06:00 [System] FilePermissions : rw-rw-rw- [File] FileType : JPEG [File] FileTypeExtension : jpg [File] MIMEType : image/jpeg [File] ExifByteOrder : Big-endian (Motorola, MM) [File] CurrentIPTCDigest : c4b32fc3596591b63584e42e3733da06 [File] ImageWidth : 3264 [File] ImageHeight : 2448 [File] EncodingProcess : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding [File] BitsPerSample : 8 [File] ColorComponents : 3 [File] YCbCrSubSampling : YCbCr4:2:0 (2 2) [IFD0] ProcessingSoftware : digiKam-4.14.0 [IFD0] ImageDescription : [IFD0] Make : Apple [IFD0] Model : iPhone 5 [IFD0] Orientation : Horizontal (normal) [IFD0] XResolution : 72 [IFD0] YResolution : 72 [IFD0] ResolutionUnit : inches [IFD0] Software : 8.1 [IFD0] ModifyDate : 2016:08:08 13:10:27 [IFD0] YCbCrPositioning : Centered [IFD0] Rating : 0 [IFD0] RatingPercent : 0 [IFD0] XPTitle : [IFD0] XPKeywords : Jack;playing [IFD0] PreviewDateTime : 2014:10:22 19:30:38 [IFD0] Padding : (Binary data 2030 bytes, use -b option to extract) [ExifIFD] ExposureTime : 1/15 [ExifIFD] FNumber : 2.4 [ExifIFD] ExposureProgram : Program AE [ExifIFD] ISO : 800 [ExifIFD] ExifVersion : 0221 [ExifIFD] DateTimeOriginal : 2014:10:22 19:30:38 [ExifIFD] CreateDate : 2014:10:22 19:30:38 [ExifIFD] ComponentsConfiguration : Y, Cb, Cr, - [ExifIFD] ShutterSpeedValue : 1/15 [ExifIFD] ApertureValue : 2.4 [ExifIFD] BrightnessValue : -1.938394161 [ExifIFD] ExposureCompensation : 0 [ExifIFD] MeteringMode : Spot [ExifIFD] Flash : Off, Did not fire [ExifIFD] FocalLength : 4.1 mm [ExifIFD] SubjectArea : 1274 839 610 612 [ExifIFD] SubSecTimeOriginal : 266 [ExifIFD] SubSecTimeDigitized : 266 [ExifIFD] FlashpixVersion : 0100 [ExifIFD] ColorSpace : sRGB [ExifIFD] ExifImageWidth : 3264 [ExifIFD] ExifImageHeight : 2448 [ExifIFD] SensingMethod : One-chip color area [ExifIFD] SceneType : Directly photographed [ExifIFD] ExposureMode : Auto [ExifIFD] WhiteBalance : Auto [ExifIFD] FocalLengthIn35mmFormat : 33 mm [ExifIFD] SceneCaptureType : Standard [ExifIFD] ImageUniqueID : b06f4c48bda34815b1da404525da3642 [ExifIFD] LensInfo : 4.12mm f/2.4 [ExifIFD] LensMake : Apple [ExifIFD] LensModel : iPhone 5 back camera 4.12mm f/2.4 [ExifIFD] Padding : (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -b option to extract) [GPS] GPSVersionID : 2.2.0.0 [GPS] GPSLatitudeRef : [GPS] GPSLatitude : [GPS] GPSLongitudeRef : [GPS] GPSLongitude : [GPS] GPSAltitudeRef : [GPS] GPSAltitude : [GPS] GPSTimeStamp : [GPS] GPSSpeedRef : [GPS] GPSSpeed : [GPS] GPSImgDirectionRef : [GPS] GPSImgDirection : [GPS] GPSDestBearingRef : [GPS] GPSDestBearing : [GPS] GPSDateStamp : [IFD1] Compression : JPEG (old-style) [IFD1] XResolution : 72 [IFD1] YResolution : 72 [IFD1] ResolutionUnit : inches [IFD1] ThumbnailOffset : 5600 [IFD1] ThumbnailLength : 5087 [XMP-x] XMPToolkit : XMP Core 5.1.2 [XMP-xmp] CreatorTool : digiKam-4.14.0 [XMP-xmp] MetadataDate : 2014:10:22 19:30:38 [XMP-xmp] CreateDate : 2014:10:22 19:30:38 [XMP-xmp] ModifyDate : 2016:08:08 13:10:27-06:00 [XMP-xmp] Rating : 0 [XMP-digiKam] PickLabel : 0 [XMP-digiKam] ColorLabel : 0 [XMP-digiKam] TagsList : Activities/playing, Places/home [XMP-exif] DateTimeOriginal : 2014:10:22 19:30:38 [XMP-exif] ExifVersion : 0221 [XMP-exif] FlashpixVersion : 0100 [XMP-exif] ColorSpace : sRGB [XMP-exif] ExposureTime : 1/15 [XMP-exif] FNumber : 2.4 [XMP-exif] ExposureProgram : Program AE [XMP-exif] ShutterSpeedValue : 1/15 [XMP-exif] ApertureValue : 2.4 [XMP-exif] BrightnessValue : -1.93839416058394 [XMP-exif] ExposureCompensation : 0 [XMP-exif] MeteringMode : Spot [XMP-exif] FocalLength : 4.1 mm [XMP-exif] SensingMethod : One-chip color area [XMP-exif] SceneType : Directly photographed [XMP-exif] ExposureMode : Auto [XMP-exif] WhiteBalance : Auto [XMP-exif] FocalLengthIn35mmFormat : 33 mm [XMP-exif] SceneCaptureType : Standard [XMP-exif] ImageUniqueID : b06f4c48bda34815b1da404525da3642 [XMP-exif] GPSVersionID : 2.2.0.0 [XMP-exif] GPSLatitude : [XMP-exif] GPSLongitude : [XMP-exif] GPSAltitudeRef : [XMP-exif] GPSAltitude : [XMP-exif] GPSDateTime : [XMP-exif] GPSSpeedRef : [XMP-exif] GPSSpeed : [XMP-exif] GPSImgDirectionRef : [XMP-exif] GPSImgDirection : [XMP-exif] GPSDestBearingRef : [XMP-exif] GPSDestBearing : [XMP-exif] FlashFired : False [XMP-exif] FlashReturn : No return detection [XMP-exif] FlashMode : Off [XMP-exif] FlashFunction : False [XMP-exif] FlashRedEyeMode : False [XMP-exif] ComponentsConfiguration : Y, Cb, Cr, - [XMP-exif] ISO : 800 [XMP-exif] SubjectArea : 1274 839 610 612 [XMP-tiff] Orientation : Horizontal (normal) [XMP-tiff] YCbCrPositioning : Centered [XMP-tiff] XResolution : 72 [XMP-tiff] YResolution : 72 [XMP-tiff] ResolutionUnit : inches [XMP-tiff] Make : Apple [XMP-tiff] Model : iPhone 5 [XMP-microsoft] RatingPercent : 0 [XMP-microsoft] LastKeywordXMP : Jack, playing [XMP-microsoft] LastKeywordIPTC : Jack, playing [XMP-acdsee] Rating : 4 [XMP-acdsee] Categories : <Categories><Category Assigned="0">Activities<Category Assigned="1">playing</Category></Category><Category Assigned="0">Places<Category Assigned="1">home</Category></Category></Categories> [XMP-photoshop] DateCreated : 2014:10:22 19:30:38 [XMP-photoshop] Urgency : 0 (reserved) [XMP-mwg-rs] RegionAppliedToDimensionsW : 3264 [XMP-mwg-rs] RegionAppliedToDimensionsH : 2448 [XMP-mwg-rs] RegionAppliedToDimensionsUnit : pixel [XMP-mwg-rs] RegionName : Jack [XMP-mwg-rs] RegionType : Face [XMP-mwg-rs] RegionAreaX : 0.441636 [XMP-mwg-rs] RegionAreaY : 0.327819 [XMP-mwg-rs] RegionAreaW : 0.0707721 [XMP-mwg-rs] RegionAreaH : 0.112337 [XMP-mwg-rs] RegionAreaUnit : normalized [XMP-MP] RegionRectangle : 0.415625, 0.303125, 0.064844, 0.086458 [XMP-MP] RegionPersonDisplayName : Jack [XMP-lr] HierarchicalSubject : Activities|playing, Places|home [XMP-mediapro] CatalogSets : Activities|playing, Places|home [XMP-dc] Title : [XMP-dc] Description : [XMP-dc] Subject : Jack, playing [IPTC] EnvelopeRecordVersion : 4 [IPTC] CodedCharacterSet : UTF8 [IPTC] ApplicationRecordVersion : 4 [IPTC] Urgency : 0 (reserved) [IPTC] Keywords : Jack, playing [IPTC] DateCreated : 2014:10:22 [IPTC] TimeCreated : 19:30:38+00:00 [IPTC] DigitalCreationDate : 2014:10:22 [IPTC] DigitalCreationTime : 00:00:00+00:00 [IPTC] OriginatingProgram : digiKam [IPTC] ProgramVersion : 4.14.0 [IPTC] Caption-Abstract : [Photoshop] IPTCDigest : c4b32fc3596591b63584e42e3733da06 [Composite] Aperture : 2.4 [Composite] DateTimeCreated : 2014:10:22 19:30:38+00:00 [Composite] DigitalCreationDateTime : 2014:10:22 00:00:00+00:00 [Composite] Flash : Off, Did not fire [Composite] GPSAltitude : [Composite] GPSDateTime : [Composite] GPSLatitude : [Composite] GPSLatitudeRef : [Composite] GPSLongitude : [Composite] GPSLongitudeRef : [Composite] GPSPosition : [Composite] ImageSize : 3264x2448 [Composite] Megapixels : 8.0 [Composite] ScaleFactor35efl : 8.0 [Composite] ShutterSpeed : 1/15 [Composite] SubSecCreateDate : 2014:10:22 19:30:38.266 [Composite] SubSecDateTimeOriginal : 2014:10:22 19:30:38.266 [Composite] ThumbnailImage : (Binary data 5087 bytes, use -b option to extract) [Composite] CircleOfConfusion : 0.004 mm [Composite] FOV : 57.2 deg [Composite] FocalLength35efl : 4.1 mm (35 mm equivalent: 33.0 mm) [Composite] HyperfocalDistance : 1.89 m [Composite] LightValue : 3.4 Best regards, Andrey Goreev On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Matthieu <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Am 19.01.2017 um 00:09 schrieb Andrey Goreev:
> I am just a digiKam user so I think you better send a sample to Gilles. > > My digiKam set to read / write IPTS IIM Application2 Keywords. > (Settings/Metadata/Advanced) > How about yours? I use the default settings, IPTS IIM Application2 Keywords is present. cu Peter |
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Am 19.01.2017 um 00:12 schrieb Matthieu:
> ... > > I identified one origin of this issue: my pictures are stored in a synology > NAS under photos station which write some of these tags in related files. ... Not here. My data is simply on a local hdd. cu Peter |
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