Switch to central map view

[Gabriel Voicu]

Hi everybody,

I would like to improve the way the central map is accessed, because I don't really think that the way it is now it's the best. What I don't know is how to make the best switch between icon-view, preview-view and map-view.
Now, as you know, there are 2 ways to access the central map. One is "View->Views->Map" view and the other one is the toolmenu "Views->Map view". The options are:
- Add preview-view to "Views" menu. If you think that this is the best option, please answer me to next questions:
    * What should happen when one clicks a thumbnail in icon-view? The view should still switch to preview-view?
    * As you may have seen, when the map is zoomed out, it groups the images and selects "the best" of them as representative thumbnails for their groups. I was thinking with Michael that when a user clicks a thumbnail on the map, to be replaced with the next "best" thumbnail from that group. Another option would be that when a user clicks on a thumbnail, to switch to preview mode. What do you think?

- Leave the switch between icon-view and preview-view as it is now and make the switch to map view to be a checkable tool button. When the button is checked, the map-view appears. When it is unchecked, the last view activates. This looks more clean and intuitive to me, because when the user will want to see photos on central map, he will just click that button. When he will want to go back to icon-view/preview-view he will uncheck it.

What kind of switch do you think that it is the best? If you have more proposals, please let me know.

Gabriel


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[Michael G. Hansen]

On 08/18/2010 07:26 PM, Gabriel Voicu wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> I would like to improve the way the central map is accessed, because I don't
> really think that the way it is now it's the best. What I don't know is how
> to make the best switch between icon-view, preview-view and map-view.
> Now, as you know, there are 2 ways to access the central map. One is
> "View->Views->Map" view and the other one is the toolmenu "Views->Map view".
> The options are:
> - Add preview-view to "Views" menu. If you think that this is the best
> option, please answer me to next questions:
>      * What should happen when one clicks a thumbnail in icon-view? The view
> should still switch to preview-view?

I think so.

>      * As you may have seen, when the map is zoomed out, it groups the images
> and selects "the best" of them as representative thumbnails for their
> groups. I was thinking with Michael that when a user clicks a thumbnail on
> the map, to be replaced with the next "best" thumbnail from that group.
> Another option would be that when a user clicks on a thumbnail, to switch to
> preview mode. What do you think?
>
> - Leave the switch between icon-view and preview-view as it is now and make
> the switch to map view to be a checkable tool button. When the button is
> checked, the map-view appears. When it is unchecked, the last view
> activates. This looks more clean and intuitive to me, because when the user
> will want to see photos on central map, he will just click that button. When
> he will want to go back to icon-view/preview-view he will uncheck it.

How about a combo-box sort of way? This way, we can easily add a
'details' view later.

Michael
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[Martin Klapetek]

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 19:26, Gabriel Voicu <[hidden email]> wrote: 

...
- Leave the switch between icon-view and preview-view as it is now and make the switch to map view to be a checkable tool button. When the button is checked, the map-view appears. When it is unchecked, the last view activates. This looks more clean and intuitive to me, because when the user will want to see photos on central map, he will just click that button. When he will want to go back to icon-view/preview-view he will uncheck it.

I would personally go with this one. Something like the current 'View' button. If you press that, it'll take you to big image view. So I'd place a button 'Map view' next to it (between the View and Edit) and this would work just as the 'View' or 'Edit' button. When you 'check' the button, the view/edit is on, when you uncheck it, you're back to icon view. That way seems the best for me as it keeps the UI flow consistent. 

Also, about the image groupping - it would be awesome if the group could ungroup on a click instead of just change the image. Something like Google Earth does. If you click the group, it is expanded in a way that it is divided to smaller groups (if there is enough images, otherwise it's just pictures itselves) placed around the original group position and all is still connected with the original center point and it creates sort of a web. And the expansion/collapsion is fully animated. See Google Earth for seeing it in action ;)

Marty

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[Aditya Bhatt]

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Martin Klapetek <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 19:26, Gabriel Voicu <[hidden email]> wrote: 

...
- Leave the switch between icon-view and preview-view as it is now and make the switch to map view to be a checkable tool button. When the button is checked, the map-view appears. When it is unchecked, the last view activates. This looks more clean and intuitive to me, because when the user will want to see photos on central map, he will just click that button. When he will want to go back to icon-view/preview-view he will uncheck it.

By the way, we're also going to have a switch between "face thumbnails" and "normal" thumbnails in the future, probably this will be next week ;-)
So, if we're going to have multiple views, in particualr, 3 or 4 switchable views, this looks elegant : http://slangkamp.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/widget-mockup.png

Sorry if this might not be very relevant.

Thanks
Aditya

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[Martin Klapetek]

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 07:44, Aditya Bhatt <[hidden email]> wrote:

By the way, we're also going to have a switch between "face thumbnails" and "normal" thumbnails in the future, probably this will be next week ;-)
So, if we're going to have multiple views, in particualr, 3 or 4 switchable views, this looks elegant : http://slangkamp.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/widget-mockup.png

Yeah, this looks pretty cool. Sometime ago I've read a blogpost on Planet KDE (or Dot KDE) about this widget being added to kdelibs or at least it's being used in some K-project. Can't remember now. But it's out there ;)

Marty

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[Michael G. Hansen]

On 08/21/2010 12:59 AM, Martin Klapetek wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 19:26, Gabriel Voicu<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>
>> ...
>> - Leave the switch between icon-view and preview-view as it is now and make
>> the switch to map view to be a checkable tool button. When the button is
>> checked, the map-view appears. When it is unchecked, the last view
>> activates. This looks more clean and intuitive to me, because when the user
>> will want to see photos on central map, he will just click that button. When
>> he will want to go back to icon-view/preview-view he will uncheck it.
>>
>
> I would personally go with this one. Something like the current 'View'
> button. If you press that, it'll take you to big image view. So I'd place a
> button 'Map view' next to it (between the View and Edit) and this would work
> just as the 'View' or 'Edit' button. When you 'check' the button, the
> view/edit is on, when you uncheck it, you're back to icon view. That way
> seems the best for me as it keeps the UI flow consistent.
>
> Also, about the image groupping - it would be awesome if the group could
> ungroup on a click instead of just change the image. Something like Google
> Earth does. If you click the group, it is expanded in a way that it is
> divided to smaller groups (if there is enough images, otherwise it's just
> pictures itselves) placed around the original group position and all is
> still connected with the original center point and it creates sort of a web.
> And the expansion/collapsion is fully animated. See Google Earth for seeing
> it in action ;)

We currently support clicking on an image and then zooming in until the
screen is filled by the grouped images - you have to click on the "Zoom
button" on the far right.

Michael
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[Gabriel Voicu]

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Michael G. Hansen <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 08/21/2010 12:59 AM, Martin Klapetek wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 19:26, Gabriel Voicu<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>
>> ...
>> - Leave the switch between icon-view and preview-view as it is now and make
>> the switch to map view to be a checkable tool button. When the button is
>> checked, the map-view appears. When it is unchecked, the last view
>> activates. This looks more clean and intuitive to me, because when the user
>> will want to see photos on central map, he will just click that button. When
>> he will want to go back to icon-view/preview-view he will uncheck it.
>>
>
> I would personally go with this one. Something like the current 'View'
> button. If you press that, it'll take you to big image view. So I'd place a
> button 'Map view' next to it (between the View and Edit) and this would work
> just as the 'View' or 'Edit' button. When you 'check' the button, the
> view/edit is on, when you uncheck it, you're back to icon view. That way
> seems the best for me as it keeps the UI flow consistent.
>
> Also, about the image groupping - it would be awesome if the group could
> ungroup on a click instead of just change the image. Something like Google
> Earth does. If you click the group, it is expanded in a way that it is
> divided to smaller groups (if there is enough images, otherwise it's just
> pictures itselves) placed around the original group position and all is
> still connected with the original center point and it creates sort of a web.
> And the expansion/collapsion is fully animated. See Google Earth for seeing
> it in action ;)

We currently support clicking on an image and then zooming in until the
screen is filled by the grouped images - you have to click on the "Zoom
button" on the far right.

Hi guys,

Thank you all for tips, I will try to find a way to bring that nice widget proposed by Aditya to digiKam. Reading from KOffice blog, it seems that I should take a qtabwidget and use CSS styling to make it look like in the picture. Martin,

Gabriel

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[Gabriel Voicu]

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Gabriel Voicu <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Michael G. Hansen <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 08/21/2010 12:59 AM, Martin Klapetek wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 19:26, Gabriel Voicu<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>
>> ...
>> - Leave the switch between icon-view and preview-view as it is now and make
>> the switch to map view to be a checkable tool button. When the button is
>> checked, the map-view appears. When it is unchecked, the last view
>> activates. This looks more clean and intuitive to me, because when the user
>> will want to see photos on central map, he will just click that button. When
>> he will want to go back to icon-view/preview-view he will uncheck it.
>>
>
> I would personally go with this one. Something like the current 'View'
> button. If you press that, it'll take you to big image view. So I'd place a
> button 'Map view' next to it (between the View and Edit) and this would work
> just as the 'View' or 'Edit' button. When you 'check' the button, the
> view/edit is on, when you uncheck it, you're back to icon view. That way
> seems the best for me as it keeps the UI flow consistent.
>
> Also, about the image groupping - it would be awesome if the group could
> ungroup on a click instead of just change the image. Something like Google
> Earth does. If you click the group, it is expanded in a way that it is
> divided to smaller groups (if there is enough images, otherwise it's just
> pictures itselves) placed around the original group position and all is
> still connected with the original center point and it creates sort of a web.
> And the expansion/collapsion is fully animated. See Google Earth for seeing
> it in action ;)

We currently support clicking on an image and then zooming in until the
screen is filled by the grouped images - you have to click on the "Zoom
button" on the far right.

Hi guys,

Thank you all for tips, I will try to find a way to bring that nice widget proposed by Aditya to digiKam. Reading from KOffice blog, it seems that I should take a qtabwidget and use CSS styling to make it look like in the picture. Martin, are you sure you saw on planet kde that the widget has been added to kdelibs? I've searched but haven't found that information.

Gabriel

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[Marcel Wiesweg]

> I would like to improve the way the central map is accessed, because I
> don't really think that the way it is now it's the best. What I don't know
> is how to make the best switch between icon-view, preview-view and
> map-view. Now, as you know, there are 2 ways to access the central map.
> One is "View->Views->Map" view and the other one is the toolmenu
> "Views->Map view". The options are:
> - Add preview-view to "Views" menu. If you think that this is the best
> option, please answer me to next questions:
>     * What should happen when one clicks a thumbnail in icon-view? The view
> should still switch to preview-view?

Yes

>     * As you may have seen, when the map is zoomed out, it groups the
> images and selects "the best" of them as representative thumbnails for
> their groups. I was thinking with Michael that when a user clicks a
> thumbnail on the map, to be replaced with the next "best" thumbnail from
> that group. Another option would be that when a user clicks on a
> thumbnail, to switch to preview mode. What do you think?

There are at least three actions the user may expect when clicking:
- zoom in
- open preview
- select

I am not yet sure which is the best solution. We may also need to consider
single vs. double click settings.

>
> - Leave the switch between icon-view and preview-view as it is now and make
> the switch to map view to be a checkable tool button. When the button is
> checked, the map-view appears. When it is unchecked, the last view
> activates. This looks more clean and intuitive to me, because when the user
> will want to see photos on central map, he will just click that button.
> When he will want to go back to icon-view/preview-view he will uncheck it.

I like this widget-that-dont-exist as well. Could be a good solution, lets see
if it works.

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