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Sharpening in 1.0.0 SVN

Leonardo Giordani
Hi all,

what happened to sharpening filter in 1.0.0 (SVN 22/06/2009)? It seems to be much more aggressive than in 0.10.0.
See

http://picasaweb.google.it/giordani.leonardo/DigiKamSharpening#5350414477017003490
http://picasaweb.google.it/giordani.leonardo/DigiKamSharpening#5350414482636616850

the same image processed with 0.10.0 (first) and 1.0.0 svn (second). Same parameters but result is quite different.
Thanks

Leonardo

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Re: Sharpening in 1.0.0 SVN

Leonardo Giordani
No one has information about this? I found it really strange.

2009/6/23 Leonardo Giordani <[hidden email]>
Hi all,

what happened to sharpening filter in 1.0.0 (SVN 22/06/2009)? It seems to be much more aggressive than in 0.10.0.
See

http://picasaweb.google.it/giordani.leonardo/DigiKamSharpening#5350414477017003490
http://picasaweb.google.it/giordani.leonardo/DigiKamSharpening#5350414482636616850

the same image processed with 0.10.0 (first) and 1.0.0 svn (second). Same parameters but result is quite different.
Thanks

Leonardo

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Re: Sharpening in 1.0.0 SVN

Gilles Caulier-4
Nothing has changed from me in code relevant...

Gilles Caulier


2009/6/25 Leonardo Giordani <[hidden email]>:

> No one has information about this? I found it really strange.
>
> 2009/6/23 Leonardo Giordani <[hidden email]>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> what happened to sharpening filter in 1.0.0 (SVN 22/06/2009)? It seems to
>> be much more aggressive than in 0.10.0.
>> See
>>
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.it/giordani.leonardo/DigiKamSharpening#5350414477017003490
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.it/giordani.leonardo/DigiKamSharpening#5350414482636616850
>>
>> the same image processed with 0.10.0 (first) and 1.0.0 svn (second). Same
>> parameters but result is quite different.
>> Thanks
>>
>> Leonardo
>>
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Re: Sharpening in 1.0.0 SVN

Markus Spring
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Looking at the original parts of the images, it seems to me that they are not
completely equal - could this be the reason for differing sharpening results?

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Re: Sharpening in 1.0.0 SVN

Leonardo Giordani
They have been processed with the same steps and the same parameters; they are a little shifted because the two processing have been made in two different time moments. Do you refer to this or did you noticed other differences?

2009/6/25 Markus Spring <[hidden email]>
Looking at the original parts of the images, it seems to me that they are not
completely equal - could this be the reason for differing sharpening results?

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Re: Sharpening in 1.0.0 SVN

Gilles Caulier-4
In both cases, save result images and compare side by side in a
separated software.

Gilles

2009/6/25 Leonardo Giordani <[hidden email]>:

> They have been processed with the same steps and the same parameters; they
> are a little shifted because the two processing have been made in two
> different time moments. Do you refer to this or did you noticed other
> differences?
>
> 2009/6/25 Markus Spring <[hidden email]>
>>
>> Looking at the original parts of the images, it seems to me that they are
>> not
>> completely equal - could this be the reason for differing sharpening
>> results?
>>
>> Markus
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Re: Sharpening in 1.0.0 SVN

Markus Spring
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Leonardo Giordani schrieb:
> They have been processed with the same steps and the same parameters;
> they are a little shifted because the two processing have been made in
> two different time moments. Do you refer to this or did you noticed
> other differences?

The 2nd image seems to show marginally more detail. This is really hard to
notice, and I do doubt that this is the reason for the drastic effect the
screenshot shows.

The Parameters you've chosen of 5/2/,05 seem pretty high to me - I never go
beyond 2 for the radius.
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Re: Sharpening in 1.0.0 SVN

Bugzilla from andi.clemens@gmx.net
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I can confirm this, 0.10 results look very different from 1.0.0.
I will check this.

Andi

On Tuesday 23 June 2009 09:12:38 Leonardo Giordani wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> what happened to sharpening filter in 1.0.0 (SVN 22/06/2009)? It seems to
> be much more aggressive than in 0.10.0.
> See
>
> http://picasaweb.google.it/giordani.leonardo/DigiKamSharpening#535041447701
>7003490
> http://picasaweb.google.it/giordani.leonardo/DigiKamSharpening#535041448263
>6616850
>
> the same image processed with 0.10.0 (first) and 1.0.0 svn (second). Same
> parameters but result is quite different.
> Thanks
>
> Leonardo

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Re: Sharpening in 1.0.0 SVN

Bugzilla from andi.clemens@gmx.net
I reverted all changes we made this year to the sharpening tool and filter.
Still the same result... weird!

I will need to use "git bisect" to find the problem.

Andi

On Thursday 25 June 2009 13:43:52 Andi Clemens wrote:

> I can confirm this, 0.10 results look very different from 1.0.0.
> I will check this.
>
> Andi
>
> On Tuesday 23 June 2009 09:12:38 Leonardo Giordani wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > what happened to sharpening filter in 1.0.0 (SVN 22/06/2009)? It seems to
> > be much more aggressive than in 0.10.0.
> > See
> >
> > http://picasaweb.google.it/giordani.leonardo/DigiKamSharpening#5350414477
> >01 7003490
> > http://picasaweb.google.it/giordani.leonardo/DigiKamSharpening#5350414482
> >63 6616850
> >
> > the same image processed with 0.10.0 (first) and 1.0.0 svn (second). Same
> > parameters but result is quite different.
> > Thanks
> >
> > Leonardo
>
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Re: Sharpening in 1.0.0 SVN

Bugzilla from andi.clemens@gmx.net
I found the problem, it appears since we changed our blur method to CImg::blur
(commit #953278).

The radius we set in the widget is wrong, I guess it always has been wrong.
A radius of 5 in other programs doesn't look like our results in digiKam with
old code.

So actually the label is wrong: It should have  been called "diameter" in the
past, instead of "radius".

So in order to get the same result, you need to set a radius of 2.5 now.
This is not possible with the current widget, we need to accept double values
here.

I will change the widget to accept double values.

Andi

On Thursday 25 June 2009 14:02:29 Andi Clemens wrote:

> I reverted all changes we made this year to the sharpening tool and filter.
> Still the same result... weird!
>
> I will need to use "git bisect" to find the problem.
>
> Andi
>
> On Thursday 25 June 2009 13:43:52 Andi Clemens wrote:
> > I can confirm this, 0.10 results look very different from 1.0.0.
> > I will check this.
> >
> > Andi
> >
> > On Tuesday 23 June 2009 09:12:38 Leonardo Giordani wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > what happened to sharpening filter in 1.0.0 (SVN 22/06/2009)? It seems
> > > to be much more aggressive than in 0.10.0.
> > > See
> > >
> > > http://picasaweb.google.it/giordani.leonardo/DigiKamSharpening#53504144
> > >77 01 7003490
> > > http://picasaweb.google.it/giordani.leonardo/DigiKamSharpening#53504144
> > >82 63 6616850
> > >
> > > the same image processed with 0.10.0 (first) and 1.0.0 svn (second).
> > > Same parameters but result is quite different.
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Leonardo
> >
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Re: Sharpening in 1.0.0 SVN

Bugzilla from andi.clemens@gmx.net
Fixed with commit #987077.
Again: the label was wrong for the old blur method. So what you set in this
dialog was never a radius, but a diameter.
With this commit you can use double values for the radius. Therefore you need
to bisect the old value you used in 0.10, to achieve the same results.

Andi

On Thursday 25 June 2009 15:42:50 Andi Clemens wrote:

> I found the problem, it appears since we changed our blur method to
> CImg::blur (commit #953278).
>
> The radius we set in the widget is wrong, I guess it always has been wrong.
> A radius of 5 in other programs doesn't look like our results in digiKam
> with old code.
>
> So actually the label is wrong: It should have  been called "diameter" in
> the past, instead of "radius".
>
> So in order to get the same result, you need to set a radius of 2.5 now.
> This is not possible with the current widget, we need to accept double
> values here.
>
> I will change the widget to accept double values.
>
> Andi
>
> On Thursday 25 June 2009 14:02:29 Andi Clemens wrote:
> > I reverted all changes we made this year to the sharpening tool and
> > filter. Still the same result... weird!
> >
> > I will need to use "git bisect" to find the problem.
> >
> > Andi
> >
> > On Thursday 25 June 2009 13:43:52 Andi Clemens wrote:
> > > I can confirm this, 0.10 results look very different from 1.0.0.
> > > I will check this.
> > >
> > > Andi
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 23 June 2009 09:12:38 Leonardo Giordani wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > what happened to sharpening filter in 1.0.0 (SVN 22/06/2009)? It
> > > > seems to be much more aggressive than in 0.10.0.
> > > > See
> > > >
> > > > http://picasaweb.google.it/giordani.leonardo/DigiKamSharpening#535041
> > > >44 77 01 7003490
> > > > http://picasaweb.google.it/giordani.leonardo/DigiKamSharpening#535041
> > > >44 82 63 6616850
> > > >
> > > > the same image processed with 0.10.0 (first) and 1.0.0 svn (second).
> > > > Same parameters but result is quite different.
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Leonardo
> > >
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Re: Sharpening in 1.0.0 SVN

Leonardo Giordani
Ok, thank you! As soon as possible I'll check it and report.

Thank you again for the quick fix

Leonardo

2009/6/25 Andi Clemens <[hidden email]>
Fixed with commit #987077.
Again: the label was wrong for the old blur method. So what you set in this
dialog was never a radius, but a diameter.
With this commit you can use double values for the radius. Therefore you need
to bisect the old value you used in 0.10, to achieve the same results.

Andi

On Thursday 25 June 2009 15:42:50 Andi Clemens wrote:
> I found the problem, it appears since we changed our blur method to
> CImg::blur (commit #953278).
>
> The radius we set in the widget is wrong, I guess it always has been wrong.
> A radius of 5 in other programs doesn't look like our results in digiKam
> with old code.
>
> So actually the label is wrong: It should have  been called "diameter" in
> the past, instead of "radius".
>
> So in order to get the same result, you need to set a radius of 2.5 now.
> This is not possible with the current widget, we need to accept double
> values here.
>
> I will change the widget to accept double values.
>
> Andi
>
> On Thursday 25 June 2009 14:02:29 Andi Clemens wrote:
> > I reverted all changes we made this year to the sharpening tool and
> > filter. Still the same result... weird!
> >
> > I will need to use "git bisect" to find the problem.
> >
> > Andi
> >
> > On Thursday 25 June 2009 13:43:52 Andi Clemens wrote:
> > > I can confirm this, 0.10 results look very different from 1.0.0.
> > > I will check this.
> > >
> > > Andi
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 23 June 2009 09:12:38 Leonardo Giordani wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > what happened to sharpening filter in 1.0.0 (SVN 22/06/2009)? It
> > > > seems to be much more aggressive than in 0.10.0.
> > > > See
> > > >
> > > > http://picasaweb.google.it/giordani.leonardo/DigiKamSharpening#535041
> > > >44 77 01 7003490
> > > >44 82 63 6616850
> > > >
> > > > the same image processed with 0.10.0 (first) and 1.0.0 svn (second).
> > > > Same parameters but result is quite different.
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Leonardo
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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