Re: New icons for DigiKam 0.8.1 and 0.9.0

Moving the thread to digikam-devel.  Everything started with the
great work of tung available here:

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> In the tarball http://ntung.free.fr/OUTPUT/icons.tar.bz2, there is a folder
> "icons", just copy it in ~/.kde/share/apps/digikam or in
> KDE_INSTALL_DIR/share/apps/digikam.
>
> You can see a preview here http://ntung.free.fr/OUTPUT/preview.html
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On Wednesday 21 December 2005 14:55, Tung NGUYEN wrote:

> > o all *folder* icons:  I like them, but IMHO better stick with
> >  the default non digikam-specific ones for consistency.   Are they
> >           from Nuvolo?  Maybe we suggest everywere in the future to install
> >  this icon set.  If the default sucks.  Install/use a new icons set
> >  instead of fixing app by app.
>
> => The basic folder icon comes from Nuvola theme, I like this folder icon
> because it is more colorful and sharper. But if you want, I can make the same
> *folder* icons with the basic folder from CrystalSVG theme, it will be more
> consistent with the default KDE theme (CrystalSVG). The only problem I see is
> when opening the menu "Import Folder...", the basic Nuvola folder icon is
> displayed in the dialog box (it can be inconsistent if you use CrystalSVG
> theme for KDE).

Whow! You're merging/creating the icons yourself?  Great.

Mhmm, so, can't we add both?  I mean we install the standard icons in KDE
default icons dir and the nuvola folder+something icons in the folder
that is used when people switch their icon theme to nuvola.   Then digikam looks
konsistant in at least 2 themes.  (and your nuvola icon work is not 'lost')

>
> > o filmgrain: ditto as above.  Don't KDE contain a similar default-icon
>
> => KDE contains a similar icon: mimetypes/video.png . I can replace the orange
> film by that of KDE.

You are the artits!  I trust your taste.  (I'm only the unpopular
is-the-license-free-aka-DSFG-guy ;)

<dreaming>
I know this is much to ask, but can you check what the other apps in
extragear use or have already?  Maybe they have a good icon already
that we can use, and maybe share.  One of my dreams is that every kde
extragear model has a lib module that contains also a icons subtree with
shareable icons like slideshow etc that are used by all extragear/graphics
applications.  But of course we should first collect a good set of icons
for digikam ;)
</dreaming>

> > o infrared: nice but will '800' help to recognize what it does?
> > Especially it's not readable in smaller sizes that will be used with
> > digikam.
>
> => Perhaps, this icon will be removed because of Tango licence.

yes, please (see below).
>
> > o Sheartool:  very similar in small sizes to the scissor used for cut.
> >  ('Slant Tower of Pisa' icon?  Nah.  Too europe centric ;)
>
> => Good idea, I will draw this idea.

:)  Not sure if my idea look too for small sizes :(

> > o slideshow, rotate_cw: again nice, BUT ;)  it's there something we can
> >  use in KDE?
>
> => KDE does not contain a slideshow icon by default. KDE contains a rotate_cw
> icon by  default but it is not nice :-) (anti alias missing, I do not know if
> KDE 3.5 offers a better icon).

Okay.
>
> > Tung:  It would be nice if you could modify AUTHOR file to list
> > what Icons are from with project, license and if possible the authors
> > or the images.
>
> => See the attached file "origine_of_the_icons" (OpenOffice format or PDF) for
> the origine of the created icons.

Another WHOW!  That's perfect.   you make me feel guilty
this looks like lots of work!

>
> The used themes are:
>
> - CrystalClear, licence LGPL, author: Everaldo Coelho,
> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25668
>
> - CrystalSVG, licence LGPL, author: Everaldo Coelho,
> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=8341
>
> - Nuvola, licence LGPL, author: David Vignoni,
> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=5358
>
> - OO.o, licence LGPL, author: Nuno Pinheiro,
> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=30987
>
> - OpenClipart, licence Public domain, www.openclipart.org

All fine!

>
> - Tango, license Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike license,
> http://tango-project.org/Tango_Desktop_Project. See the attached file
> 'TANGO_AUTHORS' for the autors of the tango icons. This file is packaged with
> the icon theme.
>
> > Ah, and _if_ Tango icons get added a copy of the CC or URL is required
> > to.
>
> => See the attached file 'TANGO_COPYING' for the license of the tango icons.
> This file is packaged with the icon theme.

Well, as I wrote already.  The Creative Common License is considered
non-free.  We're I define free here as defined by the DFSG:
        http://www.de.debian.org/social_contract.en.html#guidelines
According to
        http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary
the CC licenses are classified non-free with respect to DSFG.

This simply means that debian and *ubuntu distribution have to remove
those icons or alternatively move the hole pkg to non-free or restricted
section, respectively.  I don't know if these strict rules are
also applied to other debian based distros like kanotix, scolinux,
knoppix etc.

So I would be pleased if the new icons contain nothing based on
CC license work.

> Do not hesitate to ask me for additionnal informations.

thx. I'll do.  But for now I shut up and you contentrate on your
icons.

Achim
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[Tung NGUYEN]

Achim, thank you for the feedbacks.

As you can see it in the "origine_of_the_icons" file, there are currently four
icons which contains Tango theme components (autocorrection.png,
despeckle.png, imagecomment.png and infrared.png).

I will rework them to remove all references to Tango and you will not be
annoyed any more by the licence of Tango. :-)

---
Tung.
 

Le Jeudi 22 Décembre 2005 00:31, Achim Bohnet a écrit :

> Moving the thread to digikam-devel.  Everything started with the
> great work of tung available here:
>
> -------------------------- snip --------------
>
> > In the tarball http://ntung.free.fr/OUTPUT/icons.tar.bz2, there is a
> > folder "icons", just copy it in ~/.kde/share/apps/digikam or in
> > KDE_INSTALL_DIR/share/apps/digikam.
> >
> > You can see a preview here http://ntung.free.fr/OUTPUT/preview.html
>
> -------------------------- snap ----------------
>
> On Wednesday 21 December 2005 14:55, Tung NGUYEN wrote:
> > > o all *folder* icons:  I like them, but IMHO better stick with
> > >  the default non digikam-specific ones for consistency.   Are they
> > >           from Nuvolo?  Maybe we suggest everywere in the future to
> > > install this icon set.  If the default sucks.  Install/use a new icons
> > > set instead of fixing app by app.
> >
> > => The basic folder icon comes from Nuvola theme, I like this folder icon
> > because it is more colorful and sharper. But if you want, I can make the
> > same *folder* icons with the basic folder from CrystalSVG theme, it will
> > be more consistent with the default KDE theme (CrystalSVG). The only
> > problem I see is when opening the menu "Import Folder...", the basic
> > Nuvola folder icon is displayed in the dialog box (it can be inconsistent
> > if you use CrystalSVG theme for KDE).
>
> Whow! You're merging/creating the icons yourself?  Great.
>
> Mhmm, so, can't we add both?  I mean we install the standard icons in KDE
> default icons dir and the nuvola folder+something icons in the folder
> that is used when people switch their icon theme to nuvola.   Then digikam
> looks konsistant in at least 2 themes.  (and your nuvola icon work is not
> 'lost')
>
> > > o filmgrain: ditto as above.  Don't KDE contain a similar default-icon
> >
> > => KDE contains a similar icon: mimetypes/video.png . I can replace the
> > orange film by that of KDE.
>
> You are the artits!  I trust your taste.  (I'm only the unpopular
> is-the-license-free-aka-DSFG-guy ;)
>
> <dreaming>
> I know this is much to ask, but can you check what the other apps in
> extragear use or have already?  Maybe they have a good icon already
> that we can use, and maybe share.  One of my dreams is that every kde
> extragear model has a lib module that contains also a icons subtree with
> shareable icons like slideshow etc that are used by all extragear/graphics
> applications.  But of course we should first collect a good set of icons
> for digikam ;)
> </dreaming>
>
> > > o infrared: nice but will '800' help to recognize what it does?
> > > Especially it's not readable in smaller sizes that will be used with
> > > digikam.
> >
> > => Perhaps, this icon will be removed because of Tango licence.
>
> yes, please (see below).
>
> > > o Sheartool:  very similar in small sizes to the scissor used for cut.
> > >  ('Slant Tower of Pisa' icon?  Nah.  Too europe centric ;)
> >
> > => Good idea, I will draw this idea.
> >
> :)  Not sure if my idea look too for small sizes :(
> :
> > > o slideshow, rotate_cw: again nice, BUT ;)  it's there something we
> > > can use in KDE?
> >
> > => KDE does not contain a slideshow icon by default. KDE contains a
> > rotate_cw icon by  default but it is not nice :-) (anti alias missing, I
> > do not know if KDE 3.5 offers a better icon).
>
> Okay.
>
> > > Tung:  It would be nice if you could modify AUTHOR file to list
> > > what Icons are from with project, license and if possible the authors
> > > or the images.
> >
> > => See the attached file "origine_of_the_icons" (OpenOffice format or
> > PDF) for the origine of the created icons.
>
> Another WHOW!  That's perfect.   you make me feel guilty
> this looks like lots of work!
>
> > The used themes are:
> >
> > - CrystalClear, licence LGPL, author: Everaldo Coelho,
> > http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25668
> >
> > - CrystalSVG, licence LGPL, author: Everaldo Coelho,
> > http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=8341
> >
> > - Nuvola, licence LGPL, author: David Vignoni,
> > http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=5358
> >
> > - OO.o, licence LGPL, author: Nuno Pinheiro,
> > http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=30987
> >
> > - OpenClipart, licence Public domain, www.openclipart.org
>
> All fine!
>
> > - Tango, license Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike license,
> > http://tango-project.org/Tango_Desktop_Project. See the attached file
> > 'TANGO_AUTHORS' for the autors of the tango icons. This file is packaged
> > with the icon theme.
> >
> > > Ah, and _if_ Tango icons get added a copy of the CC or URL is required
> > > to.
> >
> > => See the attached file 'TANGO_COPYING' for the license of the tango
> > icons. This file is packaged with the icon theme.
>
> Well, as I wrote already.  The Creative Common License is considered
> non-free.  We're I define free here as defined by the DFSG:
> http://www.de.debian.org/social_contract.en.html#guidelines
> According to
> http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary
> the CC licenses are classified non-free with respect to DSFG.
>
> This simply means that debian and *ubuntu distribution have to remove
> those icons or alternatively move the hole pkg to non-free or restricted
> section, respectively.  I don't know if these strict rules are
> also applied to other debian based distros like kanotix, scolinux,
> knoppix etc.
>
> So I would be pleased if the new icons contain nothing based on
> CC license work.
>
> > Do not hesitate to ask me for additionnal informations.
>
> thx. I'll do.  But for now I shut up and you contentrate on your
> icons.
>
> Achim
>
> > ---
> > Tung.

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On Thursday 22 December 2005 01:06, Tung NGUYEN wrote:
> Achim, thank you for the feedbacks.
>
> As you can see it in the "origine_of_the_icons" file, there are currently four
> icons which contains Tango theme components (autocorrection.png,
> despeckle.png, imagecomment.png and infrared.png).
>
> I will rework them to remove all references to Tango and you will not be
> annoyed any more by the licence of Tango. :-)

Great!

Thx,
Achim
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[Tung NGUYEN]

Achim,

I have updated the iconset according to your feedbacks (there is a new icon
"icc.png" for ICC profile).

You can see a preview here http://ntung.free.fr/OUTPUT/preview.html 

CHANGELOG:
========
>> So I would be pleased if the new icons contain nothing based on
>> CC license work.

=> autocorrection.png, despeckle.png and infrared.png are reworked to remove
all references to the Tango theme, (they are now completely different ! :-).
Now, we do not have any more a problem with the Creative Commons Attribution
Share-Alike license.

> Mhmm, so, can't we add both?  I mean we install the standard icons in KDE
> default icons dir and the nuvola folder+something icons in the folder
> that is used when people switch their icon theme to nuvola.   Then digikam
> looks konsistant in at least 2 themes.  (and your nuvola icon work is not
> 'lost')

=>  I have created other *folder* icons with the basic folder from CrystalSVG
theme and made some tests to have both crystalsvg and nuvola working with
DigiKam but it does not work... By the way, the new *folder* icons (with
CrystalSVG theme) are as beautiful as those of nuvola, that's why I provide
only *folder* icons with CrystalSVG theme in the new iconset.

> > o filmgrain: ditto as above.  Don't KDE contain a similar default-icon

=> I have created a new completely different icon (see preview.html).

> <dreaming>
> I know this is much to ask, but can you check what the other apps in
> extragear use or have already?  Maybe they have a good icon already
> that we can use, and maybe share.  One of my dreams is that every kde
> extragear model has a lib module that contains also a icons subtree with
> shareable icons like slideshow etc that are used by all extragear/graphics
> applications.  But of course we should first collect a good set of icons
> for digikam ;)
> </dreaming>

=> I have installed Gwenview, Kimdaba and ShowImg and they use their own icons
for rotate, flip, slideshow, ...

>  o infrared: nice but will '800' help to recognize what it does?
>  Especially it's not readable in smaller sizes that will be used with
>  digikam.
> => Perhaps, this icon will be removed because of Tango licence.

=> See the new completely different icon (see preview.html).

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