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Bugzilla from samr@bluewin.ch
Hi there,

I am a new digikam user, and I am very excited by the many possibilities
offered my digikam. Congratulation to the development team! It is very
convenient to have such a neat program that can manage photos, edit them,
download from a camera, etc. (I just named 3 out of the hundreds of
functions, many of which I have not yet discovered :-) )

However, despite attentive reading of the documentation, I still have some
questions that remain unanswered, that I take the liberty to post here:

-I know that there is no (at least not yet) possibility to archive albums on
removable media while keeping the relevant information in the database. But
if I understand correctly, most of the information stored into the database
is also saved in the EXIF and IPTC fields of the file. Consequently, if I
archive an album on a CD, and then move it back to my collection, the
information such as comments, tags, and ratings should be read from the file
to the database. So I shouldn't loose any information, right?

-When you do nested albums, is there a setting that allows to see the pictures
of the sub-albums when the parent album is selected? For example I have a
top-level album named "Canada". It does not contain any picture, but a few
sub-folders, each with the name of a photographer. When I am in the album
view, if I select the top folder "Canada", no photo are listed. This is not a
problem for the slide show, for there is a "recursive" option, but If I want
to do a search for example, like photo in Album "Canada", with Tag "Bear", I
have no picture, because there are no picture in the "Canada" folder, but
only in its subfolder. So is there an option so that the albums behave like
the tags?

-Kipi plug-in related (I know this is not the best place to ask this
question...) : I have used the gallery export plug-in to export an album to
my online gallery 1.x. I had some encoding troubles : I have some accented
letters in my comments, and these were messed up after the upload to my
gallery. The problem is that I haven't found a way to set the encoding,
neither in Digikam, nor in gallery.

I thank you very much for any bits of information!

Sam
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Re: Newbie questions

Bugzilla from mikmach@wp.pl
Dnia Tuesday 30 of October 2007, samr napisał:

> Hi there,
>
> I am a new digikam user, and I am very excited by the many possibilities
> offered my digikam. Congratulation to the development team! It is very
> convenient to have such a neat program that can manage photos, edit
> them, download from a camera, etc. (I just named 3 out of the hundreds
> of functions, many of which I have not yet discovered :-) )
>
> However, despite attentive reading of the documentation, I still have
> some questions that remain unanswered, that I take the liberty to post
> here:
>
> -I know that there is no (at least not yet) possibility to archive
> albums on removable media while keeping the relevant information in the
> database. But if I understand correctly, most of the information stored
> into the database is also saved in the EXIF and IPTC fields of the file.
> Consequently, if I archive an album on a CD, and then move it back to my
> collection, the information such as comments, tags, and ratings should
> be read from the file to the database. So I shouldn't loose any
> information, right?

Right.

> -When you do nested albums, is there a setting that allows to see the
> pictures of the sub-albums when the parent album is selected? For
> example I have a top-level album named "Canada". It does not contain any
> picture, but a few sub-folders, each with the name of a photographer.
> When I am in the album view, if I select the top folder "Canada", no
> photo are listed. This is not a problem for the slide show, for there is
> a "recursive" option, but If I want to do a search for example, like
> photo in Album "Canada", with Tag "Bear", I have no picture, because
> there are no picture in the "Canada" folder, but only in its subfolder.
> So is there an option so that the albums behave like the tags?

AFAIK no.

> -Kipi plug-in related (I know this is not the best place to ask this
> question...) : I have used the gallery export plug-in to export an album
> to my online gallery 1.x. I had some encoding troubles : I have some
> accented letters in my comments, and these were messed up after the
> upload to my gallery. The problem is that I haven't found a way to set
> the encoding, neither in Digikam, nor in gallery.

Which comments? Digikam supports several of them... Digikam comments,
EXIF comments and IPTC comments. Digikam and EXIF comments support
non-ascii characters.

m.

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Re: Newbie questions

Arnd Baecker
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Mikolaj Machowski wrote:

> Dnia Tuesday 30 of October 2007, samr napisał:
> > -When you do nested albums, is there a setting that allows to see the
> > pictures of the sub-albums when the parent album is selected? For
> > example I have a top-level album named "Canada". It does not contain any
> > picture, but a few sub-folders, each with the name of a photographer.
> > When I am in the album view, if I select the top folder "Canada", no
> > photo are listed. This is not a problem for the slide show, for there is
> > a "recursive" option, but If I want to do a search for example, like
> > photo in Album "Canada", with Tag "Bear", I have no picture, because
> > there are no picture in the "Canada" folder, but only in its subfolder.
> > So is there an option so that the albums behave like the tags?
>
> AFAIK no.

See this wish:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128231
I am working on a patch for this ....

Best, Arnd
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Re: Newbie questions

Gerhard Kulzer-3
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Am Monday 29 October 2007 schrieb samr:

> Hi there,
>
> I am a new digikam user, and I am very excited by the many possibilities
> offered my digikam. Congratulation to the development team! It is very
> convenient to have such a neat program that can manage photos, edit them,
> download from a camera, etc. (I just named 3 out of the hundreds of
> functions, many of which I have not yet discovered :-) )
>
> However, despite attentive reading of the documentation, I still have some
> questions that remain unanswered, that I take the liberty to post here:
>
> -I know that there is no (at least not yet) possibility to archive albums
> on removable media while keeping the relevant information in the database.
> But if I understand correctly, most of the information stored into the
> database is also saved in the EXIF and IPTC fields of the file.
> Consequently, if I archive an album on a CD, and then move it back to my
> collection, the information such as comments, tags, and ratings should be
> read from the file to the database. So I shouldn't loose any information,
> right?

Right, but don't forget to turn it on in the settings menu!

> -When you do nested albums, is there a setting that allows to see the
> pictures of the sub-albums when the parent album is selected? For example I
> have a top-level album named "Canada". It does not contain any picture, but
> a few sub-folders, each with the name of a photographer. When I am in the
> album view, if I select the top folder "Canada", no photo are listed. This
> is not a problem for the slide show, for there is a "recursive" option, but
> If I want to do a search for example, like photo in Album "Canada", with
> Tag "Bear", I have no picture, because there are no picture in the "Canada"
> folder, but only in its subfolder. So is there an option so that the albums
> behave like the tags?
>
> -Kipi plug-in related (I know this is not the best place to ask this
> question...) : I have used the gallery export plug-in to export an album to
> my online gallery 1.x. I had some encoding troubles : I have some accented
> letters in my comments, and these were messed up after the upload to my
> gallery. The problem is that I haven't found a way to set the encoding,
> neither in Digikam, nor in gallery.

Without verifying why so, I believe it is on the gallery side. I use
gallery2.2 with KIPI, and there's problem with encoding (my system is utf-8
and I use special characters a lot)

> I thank you very much for any bits of information!
>
> Sam
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Re: Newbie questions

Samuel Rosset
> > -Kipi plug-in related (I know this is not the best place to ask this
> > question...) : I have used the gallery export plug-in to export an album
> > to my online gallery 1.x. I had some encoding troubles : I have some
> > accented letters in my comments, and these were messed up after the
> > upload to my gallery. The problem is that I haven't found a way to set
> > the encoding, neither in Digikam, nor in gallery.
>
> Which comments? Digikam supports several of them... Digikam comments,
> EXIF comments and IPTC comments. Digikam and EXIF comments support
> non-ascii characters.

Well, I don't know, but the comments used with the gallery export plug-in are
probably the ones stored in the database. But apparently, IPTC comments
support extended (8bit) ASCII,because my accented letters éàè etc. are
correctly displayed in the IPTC field.
So to sum up, let's say I have a comment with the word "montée", it is
properly displayed in Digikam, in the EXIF and IPTC fields (checked with the
metadata tab). If I open the gallery export plug-in and want to add this
photo to an album, the comment is still displayed correctly, but if I then go
to my gallery page, the new photo I uploaded shows the following
comment : "Montée". So there is clearly a mismatched with the encoding
(maybe between UTF-8 and ISO-8859-1), but again, I don't see any option in
gallery or digikam, to select the desired encoding. Has someone seen this
kind of problem?

Sam
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Re: Newbie questions

Gerhard Kulzer-3
Am Wednesday 31 October 2007 schrieb Samuel Rosset:

> > > -Kipi plug-in related (I know this is not the best place to ask this
> > > question...) : I have used the gallery export plug-in to export an
> > > album to my online gallery 1.x. I had some encoding troubles : I have
> > > some accented letters in my comments, and these were messed up after
> > > the upload to my gallery. The problem is that I haven't found a way to
> > > set the encoding, neither in Digikam, nor in gallery.
> >
> > Which comments? Digikam supports several of them... Digikam comments,
> > EXIF comments and IPTC comments. Digikam and EXIF comments support
> > non-ascii characters.
>
> Well, I don't know, but the comments used with the gallery export plug-in
> are probably the ones stored in the database. But apparently, IPTC comments
> support extended (8bit) ASCII,because my accented letters éàè etc. are
> correctly displayed in the IPTC field.
> So to sum up, let's say I have a comment with the word "montée", it is
> properly displayed in Digikam, in the EXIF and IPTC fields (checked with
> the metadata tab). If I open the gallery export plug-in and want to add
> this photo to an album, the comment is still displayed correctly, but if I
> then go to my gallery page, the new photo I uploaded shows the following
> comment : "Montée". So there is clearly a mismatched with the encoding
> (maybe between UTF-8 and ISO-8859-1), but again, I don't see any option in
> gallery or digikam, to select the desired encoding. Has someone seen this
> kind of problem?
>
> Sam
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In my Gallery2 site, under maintenance, I can change the Mysql DB into UTF-8.
I did that long time ago. And if I remember correctly that solved those
problems for me.

Gerhard

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