Newb discovers the perils of "endorsed" PPAs!

[J Albrecht]

Marvelous Absolutely marvelous. Not.

Whereas digiKam was finally working that way that I wanted it to, today after a update from the PPA that I had used, it has all gone to hell in a hand basket. Something seemed out of the ordinary as soon as the "daily hint" appeared. Well, it didn't really appear at all, since the dialogue box was content-less. And all thumbnails had disappeared. Furthermore, it seems that my nvidia stuff is now acting up as well: The Panel drop-downs remain on the screen after being activated.

I now have a "dead" digiKam 1,7.0.

Belatedly, I just read Sputnik's warning not to use Phillip Johnsson's repository http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/556

Yup, I've gotten myself into a fine mess. I suppose that I need to dump everything (after backing-up my Home directory to an external source, right) and start from Absolute Ground Zero, right? I am utterly LIVID (at myself).

So, can anybody give me some directions as to how I should Nuke my dual-boot box and start over? However, if I do this, I'll just find myself right back where I started: Trying to compile my own version of digiKam. Bloody hell     Should I try a different distro all together? I know that it's a personal preference but, which one is recommended?

As many would probably be happy to hear, I'm seriously considering tucking my tail between my balls and skulking back to Windoze.
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[Mark Greenwood]

On Wednesday 22 Dec 2010 14:48:46 Hevï Guy wrote:

> Marvelous Absolutely marvelous. Not.
>
> Whereas digiKam was finally working that way that I wanted it to, today
> after a update from the PPA that I had used, it has all gone to hell in
> a hand basket. Something seemed out of the ordinary as soon as the
> "daily hint" appeared. Well, it didn't really appear at all, since the
> dialogue box was content-less. And all thumbnails had disappeared.
> Furthermore, it seems that my nvidia stuff is now acting up as well: The
> Panel drop-downs remain on the screen after being activated.
>
> I now have a "dead" digiKam 1,7.0.
>
> Belatedly, I just read Sputnik's warning not to use Phillip Johnsson's
> repository http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/556 
>
> Yup, I've gotten myself into a fine mess. I suppose that I need to dump
> everything (after backing-up my Home directory to an external source,
> right) and start from Absolute Ground Zero, right? I am utterly LIVID
> (at myself).
>
> So, can anybody give me some directions as to how I should Nuke my
> dual-boot box and start over? However, if I do this, I'll just find
> myself right back where I started: Trying to compile my own version of
> digiKam. Bloody hell   X-(  Should I try a different distro all
> together? I know that it's a personal preference but, which one is
> recommended?
>
> As many would probably be happy to hear, I'm seriously considering
> tucking my tail between my balls and skulking back to Windoze.
>

Before you go nuclear, you can try a purge of philip johnson's repositiory.

I assume you've still got the .debs you built recently.

sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
sudo ppa-purge  ppa:philip5/extra (this removes anything that's been installed from philip's PPA, replaces it with the standard items from the ubuntu repository, and disables the PPA)
now re-install the .debs you built.

Hopefully this will sort you out.

Mark
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[J Albrecht]

@ any other fellow Newbs who've experienced the same upheaval: 

I went into Synaptic Update Manager where I was greeted with a warning about broken dependencies. I followed the process to sort it out.

Upon restart of digiKam, the familiar "Tip of the day" wasn't empty this time. Neither were my folder views; All thumbnails re-appeared. However, when I checked my component information, I was shocked to see that exiv2 .19 managed to sneak its way back. The damn thing is like a zombie: it can't be killed! Nevertheless, I tried:

I reinstalled libkexiv2-8_4.5.1-0ubuntu3_i386.deb and libkexiv2-dev_4.5.1-0ubuntu3_i386.deb which had been laboriously downloaded 2 days ago and were both still in my src folder.

I fired-up digiKam again, reviewed "Components" and found that exiv2 .20 had succeeded the buggy .19. Is the latter truly dead now or just silently sucking the brains out of something else behind the scenes?

Although things are working again (digiKam is - I still have problems with my screen) the program appears to be running slower and utilizing more resources.

I feel that my box's functional integrity is now being held together with bubble gum and rubber bands





On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 08:48 -0600, Hevï Guy wrote:

Marvelous Absolutely marvelous. Not.

Whereas digiKam was finally working that way that I wanted it to, today after a update from the PPA that I had used, it has all gone to hell in a hand basket. Something seemed out of the ordinary as soon as the "daily hint" appeared. Well, it didn't really appear at all, since the dialogue box was content-less. And all thumbnails had disappeared. Furthermore, it seems that my nvidia stuff is now acting up as well: The Panel drop-downs remain on the screen after being activated.

I now have a "dead" digiKam 1,7.0.

Belatedly, I just read Sputnik's warning not to use Phillip Johnsson's repository http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/556

Yup, I've gotten myself into a fine mess. I suppose that I need to dump everything (after backing-up my Home directory to an external source, right) and start from Absolute Ground Zero, right? I am utterly LIVID (at myself).

So, can anybody give me some directions as to how I should Nuke my dual-boot box and start over? However, if I do this, I'll just find myself right back where I started: Trying to compile my own version of digiKam. Bloody hell     Should I try a different distro all together? I know that it's a personal preference but, which one is recommended?

As many would probably be happy to hear, I'm seriously considering tucking my tail between my balls and skulking back to Windoze.

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Hi

> Before you go nuclear, you can try a purge of philip johnson's repositiory.
>
> I assume you've still got the .debs you built recently.
>
> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
> sudo ppa-purge  ppa:philip5/extra (this removes anything that's been installed from philip's PPA, replaces it with the standard items from the ubuntu repository, and disables the PPA)
> now re-install the .debs you built.
>
> Hopefully this will sort you out.

I'm quite a newbie in linux also, so I have no experience in situation
like You are, but:

You might need to make new clean build of digikam and other libraries.
In the case some packages were already installed from philip's PPA
before the first build. The old build might be incompatible with
packages from ubuntu repositories. I recommend deleting the "build"
folders before starting. I did omit this step once after I upgraded
KDE base libraries, and then I needed to do a second clean build.

I also recommend uninstalling any packages You are building Yourself
before installing the locally built ones. Or better even uninstall
them before starting building of packages. (That prevents them beeing
ovewritten by the possible updates coming from ubunutu repository.
Maybe building .deb files and installing them also offers some
safeguards, but I personally have not build a single .deb file yet)

And strictly speaking You actually do not not to build the .deb files.
Simple "sudo make install" is enough if the prefix was configured to
be /usr (or /usr/local). (unless You plug in some additional commands
into script like chroot or something)

Gert
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[Mark Greenwood]

On Wednesday 22 Dec 2010 15:53:33 Hevï Guy wrote:

> @ any other fellow Newbs who've experienced the same upheaval:  
>
> I went into Synaptic Update Manager where I was greeted with a warning
> about broken dependencies. I followed the process to sort it out.
>
> Upon restart of digiKam, the familiar "Tip of the day" wasn't empty this
> time. Neither were my folder views; All thumbnails re-appeared. However,
> when I checked my component information, I was shocked to see that
> exiv2 .19 managed to sneak its way back. The damn thing is like a
> zombie: it can't be killed! Nevertheless, I tried:
>
> I reinstalled libkexiv2-8_4.5.1-0ubuntu3_i386.deb and
> libkexiv2-dev_4.5.1-0ubuntu3_i386.deb which had been laboriously
> downloaded 2 days ago and were both still in my src folder.
>
> I fired-up digiKam again, reviewed "Components" and found that exiv2 .20
> had succeeded the buggy .19. Is the latter truly dead now or just
> silently sucking the brains out of something else behind the scenes?
>
> Although things are working again (digiKam is - I still have problems
> with my screen) the program appears to be running slower and utilizing
> more resources.
>
> I feel that my box's functional integrity is now being held together
> with bubble gum and rubber bands :-(
>

This can happen - the package manager can get confused if you install self-built packages.

You can if you like try to 'pin' the versions of libexiv and libkexiv to the versions you have installed, this will prevent the package manager from ever updating them. Google for 'pinning deb packages' or 'synaptic pin' should help you out here.

I'd still reccomend you try a purge of the repository. And if you want to try updates in the future I always find it safer to use the command line:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

If you're interested in trying a different distro - one that keeps more up to date without the need to use potentially dodgy PPAs - you could try Arch linux, although I'm not reccomending it as I've never used it myself. Had this been a year ago I'd have reccomended Mandriva, but that's a bit dead in the water these days.

Mark

>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 08:48 -0600, Hevï Guy wrote:
>
> > Marvelous Absolutely marvelous. Not.
> >
> > Whereas digiKam was finally working that way that I wanted it to,
> > today after a update from the PPA that I had used, it has all gone to
> > hell in a hand basket. Something seemed out of the ordinary as soon as
> > the "daily hint" appeared. Well, it didn't really appear at all, since
> > the dialogue box was content-less. And all thumbnails had disappeared.
> > Furthermore, it seems that my nvidia stuff is now acting up as well:
> > The Panel drop-downs remain on the screen after being activated.
> >
> > I now have a "dead" digiKam 1,7.0.
> >
> > Belatedly, I just read Sputnik's warning not to use Phillip Johnsson's
> > repository http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/556 
> >
> > Yup, I've gotten myself into a fine mess. I suppose that I need to
> > dump everything (after backing-up my Home directory to an external
> > source, right) and start from Absolute Ground Zero, right? I am
> > utterly LIVID (at myself).
> >
> > So, can anybody give me some directions as to how I should Nuke my
> > dual-boot box and start over? However, if I do this, I'll just find
> > myself right back where I started: Trying to compile my own version of
> > digiKam. Bloody hell   X-(  Should I try a different distro all
> > together? I know that it's a personal preference but, which one is
> > recommended?
> >
> > As many would probably be happy to hear, I'm seriously considering
> > tucking my tail between my balls and skulking back to Windoze.
>

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[J Albrecht]

Thanks again, Mark.

Before reading your message I had already done *almost* what you've suggested (as can be seen in my subsequent post). Going back to the "safe" ubuntu repository is appealing but, would I not be faced with the same initial exiv2 problem? Or, does installing the new .debs "fix" the relatively ancient ubuntu package?

* I'm going to include the "purge" script in my notebook of handy-dandy linux code. Thanks!



On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 15:50 +0000, Mark Greenwood wrote:

Before you go nuclear, you can try a purge of philip johnson's repositiory.

I assume you've still got the .debs you built recently.

sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
sudo ppa-purge  ppa:philip5/extra (this removes anything that's been installed from philip's PPA, replaces it with the standard items from the ubuntu repository, and disables the PPA)
now re-install the .debs you built.

Hopefully this will sort you out.

Mark

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[Michael Johnson]

On Wed, December 22, 2010 9:08:30 AM Mark Greenwood wrote:

> If you're interested in trying a different distro - one that keeps more up to
> date without the need to use potentially dodgy PPAs - you could try Arch linux,
>
> although I'm not reccomending it as I've never used it myself. Had this been a

> year ago I'd have reccomended Mandriva, but that's a bit dead in the water
>these
>
> days.


Just chiming in here, as someone who's been using Arch Linux for a year and a
half or so: it's a great distro if you want cutting-edge versions of software;
the versions available in the repositories are updated almost in tandem with
upstream, which I really enjoy.  Arch is also great if you like having a great
deal of control over your system, because it leaves most configuration decisions
up to you (rather than making them all automatically).

However, it is undeniably harder to get set up and get running than something
like Ubuntu is; it makes fewer assumptions about what you want.  It won't even
install a window manager by default; that's up to you.  But if you like that
control, and don't mind tinkering on the command line, I highly recommend it.
 The community is also quite helpful, even though it's smaller than for Ubuntu.

If that's not what you're looking for, but you would like a rolling release
distro (no waiting for big version updates, like Ubuntu), you might watch
openSUSE Tumbleweed, which was recently announced.  It's just starting, but once
it's done it sounds interesting.

Michael


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[Errol Sapir]

On 12/23/2010 07:10 AM, Michael Johnson wrote:

> On Wed, December 22, 2010 9:08:30 AM Mark Greenwood wrote:
>
>> If you're interested in trying a different distro - one that keeps more up to
>> date without the need to use potentially dodgy PPAs - you could try Arch linux,
>>
>> although I'm not reccomending it as I've never used it myself. Had this been a
>> year ago I'd have reccomended Mandriva, but that's a bit dead in the water
>> these
>>
>> days.
>
> Just chiming in here, as someone who's been using Arch Linux for a year and a
> half or so: it's a great distro if you want cutting-edge versions of software;
> the versions available in the repositories are updated almost in tandem with
> upstream, which I really enjoy.  Arch is also great if you like having a great
> deal of control over your system, because it leaves most configuration decisions
> up to you (rather than making them all automatically).
>
> However, it is undeniably harder to get set up and get running than something
> like Ubuntu is; it makes fewer assumptions about what you want.  It won't even
> install a window manager by default; that's up to you.  But if you like that
> control, and don't mind tinkering on the command line, I highly recommend it.
>   The community is also quite helpful, even though it's smaller than for Ubuntu.
>
> If that's not what you're looking for, but you would like a rolling release
> distro (no waiting for big version updates, like Ubuntu), you might watch
> openSUSE Tumbleweed, which was recently announced.  It's just starting, but once
> it's done it sounds interesting.
>
> Michael
>
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My 2c for a distro. Try pcLinux2010. I can recommend it for DIgikam as
it installs the latest version and keeps abreast of recent updates. I
prefer the way it installs and uses Digikam to Kubuntu or other os's. I
have it as a dual boot and swap between Kubuntu and PClinux using the
latter when I am doing a lot of photo work. There are downsides to
PCLinux (for me) but as I have never been a good compiler of Digikam
this is the way I keep the latest Digikam without waiting too long. My
photos are on a external drive so I can view them with Kubuntu which is
my main OS, but for a "photo work" session I boot PCLinux.
It may be a roundabout way to go but it works for me.
Errol

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+1 for PCLinuxOS 2010

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Errol Sapir <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 12/23/2010 07:10 AM, Michael Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, December 22, 2010 9:08:30 AM Mark Greenwood wrote:
>
>> If you're interested in trying a different distro - one that keeps more up to
>> date without the need to use potentially dodgy PPAs - you could try Arch linux,
>>
>> although I'm not reccomending it as I've never used it myself. Had this been a
>> year ago I'd have reccomended Mandriva, but that's a bit dead in the water
>> these
>>
>> days.
>
> Just chiming in here, as someone who's been using Arch Linux for a year and a
> half or so: it's a great distro if you want cutting-edge versions of software;
> the versions available in the repositories are updated almost in tandem with
> upstream, which I really enjoy.  Arch is also great if you like having a great
> deal of control over your system, because it leaves most configuration decisions
> up to you (rather than making them all automatically).
>
> However, it is undeniably harder to get set up and get running than something
> like Ubuntu is; it makes fewer assumptions about what you want.  It won't even
> install a window manager by default; that's up to you.  But if you like that
> control, and don't mind tinkering on the command line, I highly recommend it.
>   The community is also quite helpful, even though it's smaller than for Ubuntu.
>
> If that's not what you're looking for, but you would like a rolling release
> distro (no waiting for big version updates, like Ubuntu), you might watch
> openSUSE Tumbleweed, which was recently announced.  It's just starting, but once
> it's done it sounds interesting.
>
> Michael
>
>
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My 2c for a distro. Try pcLinux2010. I can recommend it for DIgikam as
it installs the latest version and keeps abreast of recent updates. I
prefer the way it installs and uses Digikam to Kubuntu or other os's. I
have it as a dual boot and swap between Kubuntu and PClinux using the
latter when I am doing a lot of photo work. There are downsides to
PCLinux (for me) but as I have never been a good compiler of Digikam
this is the way I keep the latest Digikam without waiting too long. My
photos are on a external drive so I can view them with Kubuntu which is
my main OS, but for a "photo work" session I boot PCLinux.
It may be a roundabout way to go but it works for me.
Errol

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2010/12/28 Jagdeesh Deshpande <[hidden email]>

+1 for PCLinuxOS 2010

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Errol Sapir <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 12/23/2010 07:10 AM, Michael Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, December 22, 2010 9:08:30 AM Mark Greenwood wrote:
>
>> If you're interested in trying a different distro - one that keeps more up to
>> date without the need to use potentially dodgy PPAs - you could try Arch linux,
>>

I left Ubuntu for Fedora a couple of months ago, in order to have the last releases for Digikam and Scribus, and have not regretted my choice.

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