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Gilles Caulier-4
Hi all,

Since few month, I recieve a lots of mail from users about a release plan for KDE3 and KDE4 version of digiKam.

I have just created this page : http://www.digikam.org/?q=about/releaseplan

It's not yet published in web project page.

KDE3 version is planed before christmast.

KDE4 version is planed for KDE4.1.

Of course date can be changed like we need (:=))))

I would to have your viewpoints... Thanks in advance

Gilles

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Re: New web project page about Release Plan...

Arnd Baecker
Hi Gilles,

On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Gilles Caulier wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Since few month, I recieve a lots of mail from users about a release plan
> for KDE3 and KDE4 version of digiKam.
>
> I have just created this page : http://www.digikam.org/?q=about/releaseplan
>
> It's not yet published in web project page.
>
> KDE3 version is planed before christmast.

When will be the i18n string freeze ?

> KDE4 version is planed for KDE4.1.

(hopefully with kprinter again ;-)

> Of course date can be changed like we need (:=))))
>
> I would to have your viewpoints... Thanks in advance

Looks fine to me.
Essentially it means that there will be another 9 months
before people will start to use 0.10; some
might be unhappy because they would love to use
the new features before (OTOH, this might give a couple of
additional testers ... ;-).
However, I think this is perfectly fine. The transition
of the KDE project from 3 to 4 is a big one and needs thorough
testing. Also the transition from digikam 0.9 to 0.10 is
a big step with many changes, in particular the database,
so this needs to be rock-solid
(not that I have any doubts that it will be, but testing
and fixing bugs just takes time).

Best, Arnd

P.S.: BTW, after going through a couple of hundreds images
yesterday:I don't know what I would do without the light-table,
this just rocks and makes it so much easier to choose
the best out dozens of similar shots ...
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Re: New web project page about Release Plan...

Gilles Caulier-4


2007/11/5, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>:
Hi Gilles,

On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Gilles Caulier wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Since few month, I recieve a lots of mail from users about a release plan
> for KDE3 and KDE4 version of digiKam.
>
> I have just created this page : http://www.digikam.org/?q=about/releaseplan
>
> It's not yet published in web project page.
>
> KDE3 version is planed before christmast.

When will be the i18n string freeze ?

well, for Beta3 it's fine. Gerhard ?

Also, what about to release the documentation package ? 

> KDE4 version is planed for KDE4.1.

(hopefully with kprinter again ;-)

I hope too.
 
Gilles

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Re: New web project page about Release Plan...

Arnd Baecker
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Gilles Caulier wrote:

> 2007/11/5, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > Hi Gilles,
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Since few month, I recieve a lots of mail from users about a release
> > plan
> > > for KDE3 and KDE4 version of digiKam.
> > >
> > > I have just created this page :
> > http://www.digikam.org/?q=about/releaseplan
> > >
> > > It's not yet published in web project page.
> > >
> > > KDE3 version is planed before christmast.
> >
> > When will be the i18n string freeze ?
>
>
> well, for Beta3 it's fine. Gerhard ?

Should all crashes be fixed (if possible ;-) before beta3, i.e. 18 Nov?
Today I had a look at some where feedback from the user is required.
but there are a several others, where you experts should have a look.

In addition, there are these bugs, which seem to be regressions
over the previous version:

- Bug 151122: Opening Albums Has Become Very Slow
  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151122

- Sharpen tool: no 100% is possible with the new zoom-tool
  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148072
  (related to http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147542)

Should maybe those bugs, which should be fixed for 0.9.3,
or where patches exists, be marked as HI priority,
so that they are more easily found?

Best, Arnd
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Re: New web project page about Release Plan...

Gilles Caulier-4


2007/11/5, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>:
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Gilles Caulier wrote:

> 2007/11/5, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > Hi Gilles,
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Since few month, I recieve a lots of mail from users about a release
> > plan
> > > for KDE3 and KDE4 version of digiKam.
> > >

> > > I have just created this page :
> > http://www.digikam.org/?q=about/releaseplan
> > >
> > > It's not yet published in web project page.
> > >
> > > KDE3 version is planed before christmast.
> >
> > When will be the i18n string freeze ?
>
>
> well, for Beta3 it's fine. Gerhard ?

Should all crashes be fixed (if possible ;-) before beta3, i.e. 18 Nov?
Today I had a look at some where feedback from the user is required.
but there are a several others, where you experts should have a look.

In addition, there are these bugs, which seem to be regressions
over the previous version:

- Bug 151122: Opening Albums Has Become Very Slow
  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151122

Marcel, sound like a DB problem over the network or something like that ?
 

- Sharpen tool: no 100% is possible with the new zoom-tool
   http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148072
  (related to http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147542)

For this one, it's not a regression, but i'm agree, i will take a look.

Gilles


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Re: New web project page about Release Plan...

Gilles Caulier-4


2007/11/5, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:


2007/11/5, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>:
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Gilles Caulier wrote:

> 2007/11/5, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > Hi Gilles,
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Since few month, I recieve a lots of mail from users about a release
> > plan
> > > for KDE3 and KDE4 version of digiKam.
> > >

> > > I have just created this page :
> > <a href="http://www.digikam.org/?q=about/releaseplan" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.digikam.org/?q=about/releaseplan
> > >
> > > It's not yet published in web project page.
> > >
> > > KDE3 version is planed before christmast.
> >
> > When will be the i18n string freeze ?
>
>
> well, for Beta3 it's fine. Gerhard ?

Should all crashes be fixed (if possible ;-) before beta3, i.e. 18 Nov?
Today I had a look at some where feedback from the user is required.
but there are a several others, where you experts should have a look.

In addition, there are these bugs, which seem to be regressions
over the previous version:

- Bug 151122: Opening Albums Has Become Very Slow
  <a href="http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151122" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151122

Marcel, sound like a DB problem over the network or something like that ?

Hum, it sound like a thumb cache problem. Marcel ?

Perhaps we must set cache size as a parameters...

Gilles
 


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Re: New web project page about Release Plan...

Marcel Wiesweg
Am Montag 05 November 2007 schrieb Gilles Caulier:

> 2007/11/5, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
> > 2007/11/5, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>:
> > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> > > > 2007/11/5, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>:
> > > > > Hi Gilles,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since few month, I recieve a lots of mail from users about a
> > >
> > > release
> > >
> > > > > plan
> > > > >
> > > > > > for KDE3 and KDE4 version of digiKam.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have just created this page :
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.digikam.org/?q=about/releaseplan
> > > > >
> > > > > > It's not yet published in web project page.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > KDE3 version is planed before christmast.
> > > > >
> > > > > When will be the i18n string freeze ?
> > > >
> > > > well, for Beta3 it's fine. Gerhard ?
> > >
> > > Should all crashes be fixed (if possible ;-) before beta3, i.e. 18 Nov?
> > > Today I had a look at some where feedback from the user is required.
> > > but there are a several others, where you experts should have a look.
> > >
> > > In addition, there are these bugs, which seem to be regressions
> > > over the previous version:
> > >
> > > - Bug 151122: Opening Albums Has Become Very Slow
> > >   http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151122
> >
> > Marcel, sound like a DB problem over the network or something like that ?
>
> Hum, it sound like a thumb cache problem. Marcel ?

The user reports that kio_digikamalbums is taking all the CPU, or digikamtags
etc. If this was a problem with regenerating thumbnails, it would be the
digikamthumbnail ioslave. If it was scanning, it would not be in digikamtags
(only albums is doing the scanning, in 0.9). It must be listing. But I have
no idea what could be reading full images there.

>
> Perhaps we must set cache size as a parameters...
>
> Gilles


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Re: New web project page about Release Plan...

Arnd Baecker
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Marcel Wiesweg wrote:
> Am Montag 05 November 2007 schrieb Gilles Caulier:
> > 2007/11/5, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
> > > 2007/11/5, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>:
> > > > On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> > > > > 2007/11/5, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>:

[...]

> > > > Should all crashes be fixed (if possible ;-) before beta3, i.e. 18 Nov?
> > > > Today I had a look at some where feedback from the user is required.
> > > > but there are a several others, where you experts should have a look.
> > > >
> > > > In addition, there are these bugs, which seem to be regressions
> > > > over the previous version:
> > > >
> > > > - Bug 151122: Opening Albums Has Become Very Slow
> > > >   http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151122
> > >
> > > Marcel, sound like a DB problem over the network or something like that ?
> >
> > Hum, it sound like a thumb cache problem. Marcel ?
>
> The user reports that kio_digikamalbums is taking all the CPU, or digikamtags
> etc. If this was a problem with regenerating thumbnails, it would be the
> digikamthumbnail ioslave. If it was scanning, it would not be in digikamtags
> (only albums is doing the scanning, in 0.9). It must be listing. But I have
> no idea what could be reading full images there.

Marcel, is there any way to debug this (e.g. is strace
the way to go?)
I only fear that on our machines the problem might not
be reproducable (at least I don't see any symptoms ...)

BTW: shouldn't we better attach this discussion to the BKO entry?
(If yes, I would make a brief summary and we continue there?)

Best, Arnd
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Re: New web project page about Release Plan...

Gilles Caulier-4
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I have added also the possible 0.9.4 release paln to the page (now published).

Let's me hear if all fine fine, especially about more distro releases date (Kubuntu, Debian, Mandriva, Suse, etc...)

Gilles

2007/11/5, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
Hi all,

Since few month, I recieve a lots of mail from users about a release plan for KDE3 and KDE4 version of digiKam.

I have just created this page : <a href="http://www.digikam.org/?q=about/releaseplan" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.digikam.org/?q=about/releaseplan

It's not yet published in web project page.

KDE3 version is planed before christmast.

KDE4 version is planed for KDE4.1.

Of course date can be changed like we need (:=))))

I would to have your viewpoints... Thanks in advance

Gilles


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