More than one physical Album root?

[Konstantin Kletschke]

Hi Folks!

As I got a new Digital Kamera I am trying to get used to sort and manage
my pictures with digikam. I like its concept of doing this very much,
but I have one tiny question out there:

I wonder if it is possible (I suppose not now actually) to have not one
but two physical Albums. While this looks like complicating stuff only
for providing a useless Feature, this would solve one kind of problem:

There are images I would keep public while roswing and looking at them
with family and firends, there are other kind of pictures I would keep
private between me and my girlfriend. So these kind of pictures would
reside on a separate dm-crypted partition...

Or is there any other tiny gimmick o overlooked which could solve such a
scenario most comfortable?

Keep on, Kind REgards,

Konsti

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[Chris Green]

On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 10:06:46AM +0100, Konstantin Kletschke wrote:

> Hi Folks!
>
> As I got a new Digital Kamera I am trying to get used to sort and manage
> my pictures with digikam. I like its concept of doing this very much,
> but I have one tiny question out there:
>
> I wonder if it is possible (I suppose not now actually) to have not one
> but two physical Albums. While this looks like complicating stuff only
> for providing a useless Feature, this would solve one kind of problem:
>
> There are images I would keep public while roswing and looking at them
> with family and firends, there are other kind of pictures I would keep
> private between me and my girlfriend. So these kind of pictures would
> reside on a separate dm-crypted partition...
>
> Or is there any other tiny gimmick o overlooked which could solve such a
> scenario most comfortable?
>

There's no *very* easy way of doing it but it can be done fairly
simply.

If you go into the digikam settings menu and go to the Album settings
you can specify the directory which is the root of the digikam albums.

You can change from one 'physical' Album to another by changing this
setting.  You'll have to remember to change back from the girlfriend
ones yourself though, digikam won't do it automatically or give you a
reminder.


(There are other ways of doing essentially the same thing by having a
wrapper script which plays with the digikam configuration file but the
above is the easiest way IMHO)

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2008/2/4, Chris G <[hidden email]>:

On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 10:06:46AM +0100, Konstantin Kletschke wrote:
> Hi Folks!
>
> As I got a new Digital Kamera I am trying to get used to sort and manage
> my pictures with digikam. I like its concept of doing this very much,
> but I have one tiny question out there:
>
> I wonder if it is possible (I suppose not now actually) to have not one
> but two physical Albums. While this looks like complicating stuff only
> for providing a useless Feature, this would solve one kind of problem:
>
> There are images I would keep public while roswing and looking at them
> with family and firends, there are other kind of pictures I would keep
> private between me and my girlfriend. So these kind of pictures would
> reside on a separate dm-crypted partition...
>
> Or is there any other tiny gimmick o overlooked which could solve such a
> scenario most comfortable?
>
There's no *very* easy way of doing it but it can be done fairly
simply.

If you go into the digikam settings menu and go to the Album settings
you can specify the directory which is the root of the digikam albums.

You can change from one 'physical' Album to another by changing this
setting.  You'll have to remember to change back from the girlfriend
ones yourself though, digikam won't do it automatically or give you a
reminder.


(There are other ways of doing essentially the same thing by having a
wrapper script which plays with the digikam configuration file but the
above is the easiest way IMHO)

Unforget than digiKam 0.10 (KDE4) will support more than one root album path at the same time (local and remote)...

http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/Screenshots/digikamKDE4_15.png
 

Gilles Caulier

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[Fabien-5]

Hi,

Konstantin Kletschke wrote:
> As I got a new Digital Kamera I am trying to get used to sort and manage
> my pictures with digikam. I like its concept of doing this very much,
> but I have one tiny question out there:
>
> I wonder if it is possible (I suppose not now actually) to have not one
> but two physical Albums.

I have this setting. The workaround is to use 2 different digikam
configuration files.

Look here :
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107871

I uploaded a small script example which can contains some ideas for you
(in attachments).

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[Gerhard Kulzer-3]

On Monday 04 February 2008 Konstantin Kletschke wrote:

> Hi Folks!
>
> As I got a new Digital Kamera I am trying to get used to sort and manage
> my pictures with digikam. I like its concept of doing this very much,
> but I have one tiny question out there:
>
> I wonder if it is possible (I suppose not now actually) to have not one
> but two physical Albums. While this looks like complicating stuff only
> for providing a useless Feature, this would solve one kind of problem:
>
> There are images I would keep public while roswing and looking at them
> with family and firends, there are other kind of pictures I would keep
> private between me and my girlfriend. So these kind of pictures would
> reside on a separate dm-crypted partition...
>
> Or is there any other tiny gimmick o overlooked which could solve such a
> scenario most comfortable?
>
> Keep on, Kind REgards,
>
> Konsti
>

Just another trick:
I have a private folder located within the digiKam Album tree. When I don't want to have these photos available, I just rename that folder to .privat (dot in front of it). It will then disappear from digikam's view, but the data remains in the database. When you rename it again to 'private', all information about it is there, no lengthy rereading of metadata. You have to do the renaming outside digikam, e.g. on a command line: mv private .private. That's it.

Gerhard

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[Sveinn í Felli]

Hi;

Gerhard Kulzer wrote:
> On Monday 04 February 2008 Konstantin Kletschke wrote:

>> I wonder if it is possible (I suppose not now actually) to have not one
>> but two physical Albums. While this looks like complicating stuff only
>> for providing a useless Feature, this would solve one kind of problem:
>>
>> There are images I would keep public while roswing and looking at them
>> with family and firends, there are other kind of pictures I would keep
>> private between me and my girlfriend. So these kind of pictures would
>> reside on a separate dm-crypted partition...

>
> Just another trick:
> I have a private folder located within the digiKam Album tree. When I don't want to have these photos available, I just rename that folder to .privat (dot in front of it). It will then disappear from digikam's view, but the data remains in the database. When you rename it again to 'private', all information about it is there, no lengthy rereading of metadata. You have to do the renaming outside digikam, e.g. on a command line: mv private .private. That's it.
>
> Gerhard
>

To differenciate such sensitive material, I would consider
making a separate user-account for this ;-).
Seperate root albums in preferences for digiKam; only
problem left is how to move images between the two folder trees.

Just my 10 centimes...

Sveinn í Felli



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[Chris Green]

On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 01:08:57PM +0000, "Sveinn í Felli (IMAP)" wrote:

> Hi;
>
> Gerhard Kulzer wrote:
> > On Monday 04 February 2008 Konstantin Kletschke wrote:
>
> >> I wonder if it is possible (I suppose not now actually) to have not one
> >> but two physical Albums. While this looks like complicating stuff only
> >> for providing a useless Feature, this would solve one kind of problem:
> >>
> >> There are images I would keep public while roswing and looking at them
> >> with family and firends, there are other kind of pictures I would keep
> >> private between me and my girlfriend. So these kind of pictures would
> >> reside on a separate dm-crypted partition...
>
> >
> > Just another trick:
> > I have a private folder located within the digiKam Album tree. When I don't want to have these photos available, I just rename that folder to .privat (dot in front of it). It will then disappear from digikam's view, but the data remains in the database. When you rename it again to 'private', all information about it is there, no lengthy rereading of metadata. You have to do the renaming outside digikam, e.g. on a command line: mv private .private. That's it.
> >
> > Gerhard
> >
>
> To differenciate such sensitive material, I would consider
> making a separate user-account for this ;-).
> Seperate root albums in preferences for digiKam; only
> problem left is how to move images between the two folder trees.
>
> Just my 10 centimes...
>

... and a very good 10 centimes too!  :-)   I hadn't thought of doing
it that way but it makes a lot of sense especially where the
requirement is to separate 'sensitive' images.  Those images are
effectively protected by a different password and permissions can be
set so no one else (except root) can see them.  Log out from that
account (which can be used solely for that purpose) and they're fairly
safe and more to the point won't pop into view by mistake.

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[Arnd Baecker]

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Gilles Caulier wrote:

> 2008/2/4, Chris G <[hidden email]>:
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 10:06:46AM +0100, Konstantin Kletschke wrote:
> > > Hi Folks!
> > >
> > > As I got a new Digital Kamera I am trying to get used to sort and manage
> > > my pictures with digikam. I like its concept of doing this very much,
> > > but I have one tiny question out there:
> > >
> > > I wonder if it is possible (I suppose not now actually) to have not one
> > > but two physical Albums. While this looks like complicating stuff only
> > > for providing a useless Feature, this would solve one kind of problem:
> > >
> > > There are images I would keep public while roswing and looking at them
> > > with family and firends, there are other kind of pictures I would keep
> > > private between me and my girlfriend. So these kind of pictures would
> > > reside on a separate dm-crypted partition...
> > >
> > > Or is there any other tiny gimmick o overlooked which could solve such a
> > > scenario most comfortable?
> > >
> > There's no *very* easy way of doing it but it can be done fairly
> > simply.
> >
> > If you go into the digikam settings menu and go to the Album settings
> > you can specify the directory which is the root of the digikam albums.
> >
> > You can change from one 'physical' Album to another by changing this
> > setting.  You'll have to remember to change back from the girlfriend
> > ones yourself though, digikam won't do it automatically or give you a
> > reminder.
> >
> >
> > (There are other ways of doing essentially the same thing by having a
> > wrapper script which plays with the digikam configuration file but the
> > above is the easiest way IMHO)

Another option is to add another user (e.g "privateimages") to your system
and set the rights accordingly.

See also this related wish
  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150531
  "Hidden tag to password-protect particular pictures"

Best, Arnd
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[Jesus Arocho-2]

I keep two directories, the first, a work directory, on my local machine and
the second, completed pictures, on the family server.  If I then go into
digikam setup screen and change the default library path I can change from
one directory to the other.

Menu, settings --> configure digikam --> album library path.

I no of no other way and that is how I do it.

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[Konstantin Kletschke]

Am 2008-02-04 10:53 +0100 schrieb Gilles Caulier:

> Unforget than digiKam 0.10 (KDE4) will support more than one root album path
> at the same time (local and remote)...
>
> http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/Screenshots/digikamKDE4_15.png

Hey, this looks very promising. But if one root is not unlocked and
seems to be empty it should not touch its database. Or ... hmmm... May
be the database (if also "missing") is not used/touched anyway.

Cool! While this gets ready I will cope with current situation or may be
put these private images onto a completely different Computer (ssh -X).

Konsti



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[Konstantin Kletschke]

Am 2008-02-04 09:41 +0000 schrieb Chris G:

> You can change from one 'physical' Album to another by changing this
> setting.  You'll have to remember to change back from the girlfriend
> ones yourself though, digikam won't do it automatically or give you a
> reminder.

Reading this I realize even this is a fairly comfortable situation.
Because all stuff (keywors, groups and all) will be stored in this tree
and switched. Right?

Konsti


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[Konstantin Kletschke]

Am 2008-02-04 13:08 +0000 schrieb "Sveinn í Felli (IMAP)":

> To differenciate such sensitive material, I would consider
> making a separate user-account for this ;-).

This seems to be the most clean solution after thinking about it for a
while. Considering another PC for that (my gf's one ;-) itself) with
another root tree... So rsync across would keep both trees physically as
a backup on both Computers...



Konsti


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[Marcel Wiesweg]

Am Dienstag 05 Februar 2008 schrieb Konstantin Kletschke:
> Am 2008-02-04 10:53 +0100 schrieb Gilles Caulier:
> > Unforget than digiKam 0.10 (KDE4) will support more than one root album
> > path at the same time (local and remote)...
> >
> > http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/Screenshots/digikamKDE4_15.png
>
> Hey, this looks very promising. But if one root is not unlocked and
> seems to be empty it should not touch its database. Or ... hmmm... May
> be the database (if also "missing") is not used/touched anyway.

There is only one database. One db, multiple roots.
Database backup, merging, syncing is another topic.

>
> Cool! While this gets ready I will cope with current situation or may be
> put these private images onto a completely different Computer (ssh -X).
>
> Konsti


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[glechner-2]

>> > Unforget than digiKam 0.10 (KDE4) will support more than one root
>> album
>> > path at the same time (local and remote)...
>> >
>> > http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/Screenshots/digikamKDE4_15.png


By the way, is there already an alpha-version of digikam 0.1 available to
play around with?

Best,
Gandalf
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[Arnd Baecker]

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 [hidden email] wrote:

>
> >> > Unforget than digiKam 0.10 (KDE4) will support more than one root
> >> album
> >> > path at the same time (local and remote)...
> >> >
> >> > http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/Screenshots/digikamKDE4_15.png
>
>
> By the way, is there already an alpha-version of digikam 0.1 available to
> play around with?

Sure, just download from svn and install ...
(good luck! ;-)
These instructions should *essentially* give the necessary steps
http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Digikam+Compilation+on+MacOSX

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2008/2/5, [hidden email] <[hidden email]>:

>> > Unforget than digiKam 0.10 (KDE4) will support more than one root
>> album
>> > path at the same time (local and remote)...
>> >
>> > http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/Screenshots/digikamKDE4_15.png


By the way, is there already an alpha-version of digikam 0.1 available to
play around with?

code is into "trunk" branch of KDE svn repository...

But code still in alpha stage. DO NOT USE YET IN PRODUCTION

Few part are not yet complete. for ex. all searches tools are broken and crash digiKam.
Few others work fine as Editor or Light table.

Full KDE4 port status is here :

http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/graphics/digikam/KDE4PORT?revision=769004&view=markup

Others stuff, there is a KDE core developper (boiko : http://www.rallyzeiros.com.br/wordpress/?page_id=4) who have help us to polish the code to be compilable in native under MAcOSX. It's work but same bugs than under Linux still here of course, and certainly new one.

http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/Screenshots/digikamKDE4_under_MACOSX.png

In therory, digiKam is compilable under Window$, but i have not yet tried here...

You can be sure than i will post a message in mailing list and in my blog when first 0.10-beta1 will be out and ready for testing...

Best

Gilles Caulier

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[Paul Waldo]

Gilles Caulier wrote:
> Unforget than digiKam 0.10 (KDE4) will support more than one root
> album path at the same time (local and remote)...
>
> http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/Screenshots/digikamKDE4_15.png
>  
> Gilles Caulier
Hi Gilles,

I just took a quick peek at the screen shot and noticed that it says we
can't use remote filesystems for images.  Wasn't remote database one of
the things for version 0.10?  Thanks!

Paul
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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2008/2/5, Paul Waldo <[hidden email]>:

Gilles Caulier wrote:
> Unforget than digiKam 0.10 (KDE4) will support more than one root
> album path at the same time (local and remote)...
>
> http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/Screenshots/digikamKDE4_15.png
>
> Gilles Caulier
Hi Gilles,

I just took a quick peek at the screen shot and noticed that it says we
can't use remote filesystems for images.  Wasn't remote database one of
the things for version 0.10?  Thanks!

Remote file system are NFS, Samba, etc...

Duing several problem in SQlite, we cannot use remote file system to host database file. This is why root album path and DB file path are separated. And of course DB file must still in local...

About a remote DB access, this will be done later, when MArcel will have completed the new DB interface in digiKam core, else we will cumulate too many changes and it will be never see a chance to stabilize code (:=)))
 

Best

Gilles Caulier

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