How to put photo images in a Presentation List
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I am just an amateur photograph (and amateur user of Digikam and
Xubuntu 17.04). My main use for a photo manager is to build a
presentation to show my friends. For example, a presentation of our
latest Africa trip. I may also need to doctor up some of my photos
a little. In addition, I would like my presentations NOT to be
complete copies of my original photos, but just a list of photos
taken from my photo database. I picked DigiKam, because it was
recommended as the best photo manager for Linux, and it allows
creating a list of photos to be included in a presentation without
copying the photo. However, I am finding that the "work flow" to
creating a presentation list is incredibly awkward. I am hoping
somebody can tell me of a different "work flow" that will be less
awkward.
To add a photo to my Presentation List I go through the following steps:
As a side note I figured out how to use "Gwenview>Plugins>Export>Export to remote storage" to create a folder containing all the photos in my Digikam presentation, in case I want to give it to a friend. Thank you, Ralph |
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On lundi 8 janvier 2018 01:46:59 CET lachenmaier wrote:
> I am just an amateur photograph (and amateur user of Digikam and Xubuntu > 17.04). My main use for a photo manager is to build a presentation to show > my friends. For example, a presentation of our latest Africa trip. I may > also need to doctor up some of my photos a little. In addition, I would > like my presentations NOT to be complete copies of my original photos, but > just a list of photos taken from my photo database. I picked DigiKam, > because it was recommended as the best photo manager for Linux, and it > allows creating a list of photos to be included in a presentation without > copying the photo. However, I am finding that the "work flow" to creating > a presentation list is incredibly awkward. I am hoping somebody can tell > me of a different "work flow" that will be less awkward. > > To add a photo to my Presentation List I go through the following steps: > Scan thru photos using Preview mode until I find a photo I want to include. > Click on Image Editor to see if I want to doctor up the photo a little. I > often use Color>Auto Correction. Maybe go to Light Table and compared the > doctored image to the original to see if I want to keep it. If in Light > Table go back to Image Editor. > Click on OK. > Click on "Save as New Version". > Click on the DigiKam main window to go back to Preview mode. > Put my cursor on the Thumbnail in Preview mode and wait 3 or 4 seconds for > the Properties window to pop up so I can find the file name of the photo I > want to add to the presentation list. For some reason file names, while > listed in Thumbnail mode are not listed in Preview mode, and putting my > cursor on the large selected image won't bring up the Properties window. > Pull down the View menu and select Presentation. A thumbnail of the photo > I want to add is now in the Presentation window. Click "Load a Saved List" > to bring up a window that allows me to select the file, which contains the > Presentation List I am building. Double click on the Presentation List file > name. The old list, plus the photo I am adding, is now in the Presentation > window. Click on the "Save List" button in the Presentation window. > Select the same Presentation List file that I am building. > Click Save. > Click on "Yes", when the message "Another test presentation already exists. > Do you want to replace it?" Click the Close button to close the > Presentation Window. > Repeat the 16 steps above for the next photo that I want to put in the > Presentation List. Does anybody have a better "Work Flow" for building a > Presentation List. If so I would appreciate you describing it!!!! First, in such cases I don't add each photo individually to the presentation, but I work in several steps: 1 - In the Digikam main view, cycle through the series of images and *mark* the ones susceptible to be included in the presentation. Basically this / rejects/ all images that are of insufficient quality (out of focus,wrong exposure, bad composition, ...), no consideration is given to storyline or length of the presentation. If you double-click on an image in the main window, it will be shown large, and you can navigate to the next or previous image with mouse or keyboard without needing the thumbnail view. For marking you could use rating (Ctrl-1..Ctrl-5), or pick labels (Alt-0..Alt-3). As you don't leave the large view, this step is rather fast. 2 - Filter out the rejected images, and (still in single-image view) edit those of the selected images that need it (note that I don't edit in Digikam). 3 - Select the images to be included in the presentation (in thumbnail view) and save that selection. This allows me to see all the images I want to use and already think about the story line, and keep an eye on the number of images in the presentation. Note that with this workflow you don't need to remember the filename of any image (eliminates your step 8 completely) and you don't need to reload the future presentation for every image (your steps 10-15 get replaced by one save operation). Reasoning: I prefer dealing with one thing at the time: 1- is this image good enough to be included? No consideration of storyline or length of the presentation at this time. 2- edit images, where I look at getting the best result per image 3- create the final presentation, again using labels (I often use a color label in this stage, or a tag if I think I'll need the selection more often). Basically, this replaces your steps 8-16 by just one activation of the presentation dialog. Hope this helps, Remco |
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Þann mán 8.jan 2018 00:46, skrifaði lachenmaier:
> I am just an amateur photograph (and amateur user of Digikam and Xubuntu > 17.04). My main use for a photo manager is to build a presentation to show my > friends. For example, a presentation of our latest Africa trip. I may also > need to doctor up some of my photos a little. In addition, I would like my > presentations NOT to be complete copies of my original photos, but just a list > of photos taken from my photo database. I picked DigiKam, because it was > recommended as the best photo manager for Linux, and it allows creating a list > of photos to be included in a presentation without copying the photo. However, > I am finding that the "work flow" to creating a presentation list is incredibly > awkward. I am hoping somebody can tell me of a different "work flow" that will > be less awkward. > > To add a photo to my Presentation List I go through the following steps: > > 1. Scan thru photos using Preview mode until I find a photo I want to include. > 2. Click on Image Editor to see if I want to doctor up the photo a little. I > often use Color>Auto Correction. > 3. Maybe go to Light Table and compared the doctored image to the original to > see if I want to keep it. > 4. If in Light Table go back to Image Editor. > 5. Click on OK. > 6. Click on "Save as New Version". > 7. Click on the DigiKam main window to go back to Preview mode. > 8. Put my cursor on the Thumbnail in Preview mode and wait 3 or 4 seconds for > the Properties window to pop up so I can find the file name of the photo I > want to add to the presentation list. For some reason file names, while > listed in Thumbnail mode are not listed in Preview mode, and putting my > cursor on the large selected image won't bring up the Properties window. > 9. Pull down the View menu and select Presentation. A thumbnail of the photo I > want to add is now in the Presentation window. > 10. Click "Load a Saved List" to bring up a window that allows me to select the > file, which contains the Presentation List I am building. > 11. Double click on the Presentation List file name. The old list, plus the > photo I am adding, is now in the Presentation window. > 12. Click on the "Save List" button in the Presentation window. > 13. Select the same Presentation List file that I am building. > 14. Click Save. > 15. Click on "Yes", when the message "Another test presentation already exists. > Do you want to replace it?" > 16. Click the Close button to close the Presentation Window. > 17. Repeat the 16 steps above for the next photo that I want to put in the > Presentation List. > > Does anybody have a better "Work Flow" for building a Presentation List. If so > I would appreciate you describing it!!!! > > As a side note I figured out how to use "Gwenview>Plugins>Export>Export to > remote storage" to create a folder containing all the photos in my Digikam > presentation, in case I want to give it to a friend. > > Thank you, > Ralph Hi, My workflow: 1. Rough scan of the photos, deleting unusable photos and perhaps giving stars to good ones. Now I may have a basic idea about the storyline I'd present. 2. Do as Remco suggests in his #1, but I create/use a specific tag for this - the tag can be in a hierachy like this: My boring presentations Boring slideshows w/o music Africa 2017 for friends I find that using a tag for this is a bit more convenient if the images are scattered over multiple albums. 3. Now I have plenty more images with this tag than I'll ever use; with the left hand tag-panel I choose the tag and see all those photos; I now use the colored flags to mark and then filter (on bottom) until I'm satisfied. Then I select all the images/versions I will NOT use and remove the tag. 4. Now I select the rest of the photos which have the tag, and save the file list. Regarding your original step #8, it looks like you're working in full-screen, right? In a windowed state, you can always see the filename in the Statusbar. And for the last part, "Export-->Export to Remote Storage/Computer" does the same in DigiKam, but presumably you need KIPIplugins installed for that. Best regards, Sveinn í Felli |
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Remco, Sveinn,
Thank you for your responses. I really appreciate them. I finally had a chance to try your suggestions, and yes, they help. However, I have a few more questions:
Thank you very much for your time, Ralph On 01/07/2018 09:55 PM, Remco Viëtor
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On lundi 8 janvier 2018 01:46:59 CET lachenmaier wrote:I am just an amateur photograph (and amateur user of Digikam and Xubuntu 17.04). My main use for a photo manager is to build a presentation to show my friends. For example, a presentation of our latest Africa trip. I may also need to doctor up some of my photos a little. In addition, I would like my presentations NOT to be complete copies of my original photos, but just a list of photos taken from my photo database. I picked DigiKam, because it was recommended as the best photo manager for Linux, and it allows creating a list of photos to be included in a presentation without copying the photo. However, I am finding that the "work flow" to creating a presentation list is incredibly awkward. I am hoping somebody can tell me of a different "work flow" that will be less awkward. To add a photo to my Presentation List I go through the following steps: Scan thru photos using Preview mode until I find a photo I want to include. Click on Image Editor to see if I want to doctor up the photo a little. I often use Color>Auto Correction. Maybe go to Light Table and compared the doctored image to the original to see if I want to keep it. If in Light Table go back to Image Editor. Click on OK. Click on "Save as New Version". Click on the DigiKam main window to go back to Preview mode. Put my cursor on the Thumbnail in Preview mode and wait 3 or 4 seconds for the Properties window to pop up so I can find the file name of the photo I want to add to the presentation list. For some reason file names, while listed in Thumbnail mode are not listed in Preview mode, and putting my cursor on the large selected image won't bring up the Properties window. Pull down the View menu and select Presentation. A thumbnail of the photo I want to add is now in the Presentation window. Click "Load a Saved List" to bring up a window that allows me to select the file, which contains the Presentation List I am building. Double click on the Presentation List file name. The old list, plus the photo I am adding, is now in the Presentation window. Click on the "Save List" button in the Presentation window. Select the same Presentation List file that I am building. Click Save. Click on "Yes", when the message "Another test presentation already exists. Do you want to replace it?" Click the Close button to close the Presentation Window. Repeat the 16 steps above for the next photo that I want to put in the Presentation List. Does anybody have a better "Work Flow" for building a Presentation List. If so I would appreciate you describing it!!!!First, in such cases I don't add each photo individually to the presentation, but I work in several steps: 1 - In the Digikam main view, cycle through the series of images and *mark* the ones susceptible to be included in the presentation. Basically this / rejects/ all images that are of insufficient quality (out of focus,wrong exposure, bad composition, ...), no consideration is given to storyline or length of the presentation. If you double-click on an image in the main window, it will be shown large, and you can navigate to the next or previous image with mouse or keyboard without needing the thumbnail view. For marking you could use rating (Ctrl-1..Ctrl-5), or pick labels (Alt-0..Alt-3). As you don't leave the large view, this step is rather fast. 2 - Filter out the rejected images, and (still in single-image view) edit those of the selected images that need it (note that I don't edit in Digikam). 3 - Select the images to be included in the presentation (in thumbnail view) and save that selection. This allows me to see all the images I want to use and already think about the story line, and keep an eye on the number of images in the presentation. Note that with this workflow you don't need to remember the filename of any image (eliminates your step 8 completely) and you don't need to reload the future presentation for every image (your steps 10-15 get replaced by one save operation). Reasoning: I prefer dealing with one thing at the time: 1- is this image good enough to be included? No consideration of storyline or length of the presentation at this time. 2- edit images, where I look at getting the best result per image 3- create the final presentation, again using labels (I often use a color label in this stage, or a tag if I think I'll need the selection more often). Basically, this replaces your steps 8-16 by just one activation of the presentation dialog. Hope this helps, Remco |
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Þann mið 10.jan 2018 00:57, skrifaði lachenmaier:
> 2. I tried using the various different labels (pick, color, rating) for marking > photos that I want in my presentation. While I could mark any photo with any > label, I could set up a filter only for the rating (stars). To set up > filters I went to the right sidebar>Filters, then to the bottom and clicked > on a flag (color), a color box, or a star. Maybe I did something wrong. > Would you advise? If you already have marked photos (pick, color, rating), to filter them you click on the filter symbol in the (bottom) statusbar; it opens automatically the filter sidepane to the right. Clicking on the respective labels there will show only the thumbnails with the corresponding criteria fulfilled. > 3. While the rating (stars), and color (colored box around the thumbnail), and > pick (colored flags) show in the thumbnail mode, the pick label does not > show in the preview mode. Is there some setting to make this show? I am > running Xubuntu 17.04 and Digikam digikam-5.8.0-20180107T063018-x86-64.appimage. When in preview-mode with thumbnail-strip showing, the color is visible around the thumbnail. Bizarrely the pick-labels do not (I had not remarked before) and there seems to be no way to do so in the settings. A textual form is shown in the tooltips (e.g. 'Rejected') but not as a symbol. But to have them show in preview-mode without thumbnails is over my competence-level. Unfortunately I'm not using the appimage regularly, so I may not have exactly the same layout. Best regards, Sveinn í Felli |
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There is a search in the left panel too. You can combine search of the left panel and filters of the right panel. Also I am pretty sure that pick labels are shown in thumbnails view. I will double check that when I am in from of my PC. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message -------- From: Sveinn í Felli <[hidden email]> Date: 2018-01-10 12:49 AM (GMT-07:00) To: [hidden email], digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: How to put photo images in a Presentation List > 2. I tried using the various different labels (pick, color, rating) for marking > photos that I want in my presentation. While I could mark any photo with any > label, I could set up a filter only for the rating (stars). To set up > filters I went to the right sidebar>Filters, then to the bottom and clicked > on a flag (color), a color box, or a star. Maybe I did something wrong. > Would you advise? If you already have marked photos (pick, color, rating), to filter them you click on the filter symbol in the (bottom) statusbar; it opens automatically the filter sidepane to the right. Clicking on the respective labels there will show only the thumbnails with the corresponding criteria fulfilled. > 3. While the rating (stars), and color (colored box around the thumbnail), and > pick (colored flags) show in the thumbnail mode, the pick label does not > show in the preview mode. Is there some setting to make this show? I am > running Xubuntu 17.04 and Digikam digikam-5.8.0-20180107T063018-x86-64.appimage. When in preview-mode with thumbnail-strip showing, the color is visible around the thumbnail. Bizarrely the pick-labels do not (I had not remarked before) and there seems to be no way to do so in the settings. A textual form is shown in the tooltips (e.g. 'Rejected') but not as a symbol. But to have them show in preview-mode without thumbnails is over my competence-level. Unfortunately I'm not using the appimage regularly, so I may not have exactly the same layout. Best regards, Sveinn í Felli |
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All my problems with pick labels, color labels, tags, filters, searches were
apparently due to a corrupted database. I started a new database from scratch, put some photos, which had never been in a database, in it as a new collection. Everything worked!!!!! Then I made a second collection (in the new database) out of photo folders that had previously been in the corrupted database. They seem to work fine also, and tags that were not visible in the corrupted database were now visible!!!!! I guess the tags that came back to life must have been stored in the photos' metadata, since I didn't move anything from the corrupted database. Life's good now!!! But I have no idea how the database got corrupted. That's a little worrisome, as now I keep worrying about my new database to becoming corrupted. -- Sent from: http://digikam.1695700.n4.nabble.com/digikam-users-f1735189.html |
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Are you using sqlite or mysql database ? Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message -------- From: ralphl <[hidden email]> Date: 2018-01-10 10:46 PM (GMT-07:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: How to put photo images in a Presentation List apparently due to a corrupted database. I started a new database from scratch, put some photos, which had never been in a database, in it as a new collection. Everything worked!!!!! Then I made a second collection (in the new database) out of photo folders that had previously been in the corrupted database. They seem to work fine also, and tags that were not visible in the corrupted database were now visible!!!!! I guess the tags that came back to life must have been stored in the photos' metadata, since I didn't move anything from the corrupted database. Life's good now!!! But I have no idea how the database got corrupted. That's a little worrisome, as now I keep worrying about my new database to becoming corrupted. -- Sent from: http://digikam.1695700.n4.nabble.com/digikam-users-f1735189.html |
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I am using sqlite.
Thanks Ralph On 01/11/2018 04:53 AM, Andrey Goreev
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