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How to make a new top-level album?

sean darcy
digikam-1.0.0.-rc6. I have one album created: /opt/camera/summer-2009.
Under that album I can access all sub-folders.

Now I want to create a new folder : /opt/camera/fall-2009. I can create
it as a sub-folder in summer-2009, but I can't create it as a top-level
folder. When I highlight "My Albums" the option to create a new folder
is grayed out.

What am I missing?

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Re: How to make a new top-level album?

jdd@dodin.org
Le 13/11/2009 16:45, sean darcy a écrit :

> digikam-1.0.0.-rc6. I have one album created: /opt/camera/summer-2009.
> Under that album I can access all sub-folders.
>
> Now I want to create a new folder : /opt/camera/fall-2009. I can create
> it as a sub-folder in summer-2009, but I can't create it as a top-level
> folder. When I highlight "My Albums" the option to create a new folder
> is grayed out.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> sean
this is not an album but a "collection", so create it from the config menu
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Re: How to make a new top-level album?

Chris Green
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 05:36:28PM +0100, jdd-gmane wrote:

> Le 13/11/2009 16:45, sean darcy a écrit :
> > digikam-1.0.0.-rc6. I have one album created: /opt/camera/summer-2009.
> > Under that album I can access all sub-folders.
> >
> > Now I want to create a new folder : /opt/camera/fall-2009. I can create
> > it as a sub-folder in summer-2009, but I can't create it as a top-level
> > folder. When I highlight "My Albums" the option to create a new folder
> > is grayed out.
> >
> > What am I missing?
> >
> > sean
> this is not an album but a "collection", so create it from the config menu

I agree with the OP, it should be possible to create multiple albums
at the top level, it's claimed to be possible.

I, too, want to create (say) an album for each year which is all that
is shown when you open it.

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Re: How to make a new top-level album?

jdd@dodin.org
Le 13/11/2009 19:30, Chris G a écrit :

> I, too, want to create (say) an album for each year which is all that
> is shown when you open it.
>
if you speak of digikam 0.10 for kde4, it's what's is called a
collection. just open the config menu, right clic in the window to
create a folder and it will be shown at to level in digikam
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Re: How to make a new top-level album?

Chris Green
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 07:59:55PM +0100, jdd-gmane wrote:
> Le 13/11/2009 19:30, Chris G a écrit :
>
> > I, too, want to create (say) an album for each year which is all that
> > is shown when you open it.
> >
> if you speak of digikam 0.10 for kde4, it's what's is called a
> collection. just open the config menu, right clic in the window to
> create a folder and it will be shown at to level in digikam

Do what???

I have digikam 0.10.0.  Where is the "config menu", there's not one
on my digikam.

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Re: How to make a new top-level album?

jdd@dodin.org
Le 13/11/2009 20:06, Chris G a écrit :

> I have digikam 0.10.0.  Where is the "config menu", there's not one
> on my digikam.
>
please, search a little !

next to help, "config" then "configure digikam" (bottom)

linux digikam... if under windows, it may be on the edit menu

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Re: How to make a new top-level album?

Chris Green
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:01:04PM +0100, jdd-gmane wrote:

> Le 13/11/2009 20:06, Chris G a écrit :
>
> > I have digikam 0.10.0.  Where is the "config menu", there's not one
> > on my digikam.
> >
> please, search a little !
>
> next to help, "config" then "configure digikam" (bottom)
>
> linux digikam... if under windows, it may be on the edit menu
>
I'm on Ubuntu 9.04, I *think* that's Linux.  :-)

Next to Help is Settings, is that what you mean?

OK, so I go into Collections and try and add '2009', it refuses
because I already have a 2009 in my /home/chris/pictures. !!!

It *doesn't* do anything I couldn't do before in previous versions,
all it does is allow a different way to the same place.

I have, in Local Collections a collection called 'pictures'.  I want
to add other collections, I can't.

It simply doesn't work as it seems it should.

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Re: How to make a new top-level album?

jdd@dodin.org
Le 13/11/2009 23:48, Chris G a écrit :

> Next to Help is Settings, is that what you mean?

probably, I'm french and use the french version, so I don't know the
exact english words, I can only guess
>
> OK, so I go into Collections and try and add '2009', it refuses
> because I already have a 2009 in my /home/chris/pictures. !!!

can't you simply *select* 2009??

>
> It *doesn't* do anything I couldn't do before in previous versions,
> all it does is allow a different way to the same place.
>
> I have, in Local Collections a collection called 'pictures'.  I want
> to add other collections, I can't.

collections are system folders, one can't have two folders/files with
the same name

this was always the case

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Re: How to make a new top-level album?

Geert Janssens
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On Friday 13 November 2009, Chris G wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:01:04PM +0100, jdd-gmane wrote:
> > Le 13/11/2009 20:06, Chris G a écrit :
> > > I have digikam 0.10.0.  Where is the "config menu", there's not one
> > > on my digikam.
> >
> > please, search a little !
> >
> > next to help, "config" then "configure digikam" (bottom)
> >
> > linux digikam... if under windows, it may be on the edit menu
>
> I'm on Ubuntu 9.04, I *think* that's Linux.  :-)
>
> Next to Help is Settings, is that what you mean?
>
> OK, so I go into Collections and try and add '2009', it refuses
> because I already have a 2009 in my /home/chris/pictures. !!!
>
> It *doesn't* do anything I couldn't do before in previous versions,
> all it does is allow a different way to the same place.
>
With the new configuration options, you can tell digikam to manage pictures in
several directories that are not necesarily all in the same subdirectory. You
could add for example a directory on a usb drive, or one on a network share,
all next to one or more local paths. Not everybody keeps all of his/her
pictures in one single root directory (with subdirectories).

So the new configuration *does* allow things that were not possbible before,
although it may not be relevant for your use case.

> I have, in Local Collections a collection called 'pictures'.  I want
> to add other collections, I can't.
>
> It simply doesn't work as it seems it should.

I have seen this as well with digikam on Mandriva 2009.0. It was fixed in
Mandriva 2009.1, so I didn't have to investigate.

If you start digikam from the command line, and then try to add a collection,
do you get any error messages in the terminal ?
That was the case with me. These error messages may help the developers trace
the problem.

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Re: How to make a new top-level album?

Chris Green
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On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 09:14:11AM +0100, jdd-gmane wrote:

> Le 13/11/2009 23:48, Chris G a écrit :
>
> > Next to Help is Settings, is that what you mean?
>
> probably, I'm french and use the french version, so I don't know the
> exact english words, I can only guess
> >
> > OK, so I go into Collections and try and add '2009', it refuses
> > because I already have a 2009 in my /home/chris/pictures. !!!
>
> can't you simply *select* 2009??
>
> >
> > It *doesn't* do anything I couldn't do before in previous versions,
> > all it does is allow a different way to the same place.
> >
> > I have, in Local Collections a collection called 'pictures'.  I want
> > to add other collections, I can't.
>
> collections are system folders, one can't have two folders/files with
> the same name
>
> this was always the case
>
Yes, there's no need to state the obvious.

What I (and I think the OP) want to do is to have independent digikam
'collections' (if that's what you want to call them) at the top level.

When I go into the Configure Digikam menu it looks like it's offering
me a way to do this and it's certainly what I *thought* was being
offered by this 'new' ability that 0.10.0 is supposed to have.

It shows me my existing directory tree under Local Collections so
under that I see a branch with /home/chris/pictures.  Then there's a
button which says "Add Collection", it seems obvious to me that if I
click on that button I should be able to add another collection at the
same level as /home/chris/pictures and be able to select *either*
/home/chris/pictures or the new collection.  But it doesn't work.

I'm pretty sure this is what the OP was complaining about, it simply
doesn't work the way one expects (and hopes).

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Re: How to make a new top-level album?

jdd@dodin.org
Le 14/11/2009 09:57, Chris G a écrit :

> same level as /home/chris/pictures and be able to select *either*
> /home/chris/pictures or the new collection.  But it doesn't work.
>
> I'm pretty sure this is what the OP was complaining about, it simply
> doesn't work the way one expects (and hopes).
>
don't know exactly :-(

On the old (kde3) digikam I used two days ago, one could create as
many databases as one wanted, selecting the level.

I used this all the time because I have folders with same name inside
several collections and when exporting old digikam was grouping all
the folders together.

For example, I have a "numeric" collection with a 2009 album.
I also have a "scanned" collection with also a 2009 album.

in the export menu, digikam (or the kipi plugin) listed the two "2009"
on the same list, making it difficult to select the good one.

so I could choose "numeric" as root, build the database there and
exoprt "all" the folders without thinking

now, with new digikam, I can choose as collections both "numeric" and
"scanned" and open or close them at will in any digikam window.

This is better, because like this the tags are kept.
However there is no more "select all" button in this 0.10 version

there is neither "export as video" option

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Re: How to make a new top-level album?

S. Burmeister
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Am Samstag, 14. November 2009 09:57:17 schrieb Chris G:

> What I (and I think the OP) want to do is to have independent digikam
> 'collections' (if that's what you want to call them) at the top level.
>
> When I go into the Configure Digikam menu it looks like it's offering
> me a way to do this and it's certainly what I *thought* was being
> offered by this 'new' ability that 0.10.0 is supposed to have.
>
> It shows me my existing directory tree under Local Collections so
> under that I see a branch with /home/chris/pictures.  Then there's a
> button which says "Add Collection", it seems obvious to me that if I
> click on that button I should be able to add another collection at the
> same level as /home/chris/pictures and be able to select *either*
> /home/chris/pictures or the new collection.  But it doesn't work.
>
> I'm pretty sure this is what the OP was complaining about, it simply
> doesn't work the way one expects (and hopes).

I'm not sure I understood correctly what you mean, but for me it works this
way:

"Add collection" does not mean "create collection", so if I want two
collections in my /.../pictures/ folder I create two folders in there which
will contain the albums, one named "spring", the other "fall".

After that I open digikam's settings and click on "add collection" to select
one folder, then I add another collection and select the second folder. That
way digikam now shows both collections and each of them can have multiple
albums.

If I click on "add collection" the window title reads something like "select
the folder that contains your collection", which seems to mediate exactly what
needs to be done.

I did not try yet, but if you have a collection that includes /.../pictures,
it does not make sense to have another collection pointing to
/.../pictures/spring, as that one would already be contained in the former.

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Re: How to make a new top-level album?

Chris Green
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:01:59PM +0100, Sven Burmeister wrote:

> Am Samstag, 14. November 2009 09:57:17 schrieb Chris G:
> > What I (and I think the OP) want to do is to have independent digikam
> > 'collections' (if that's what you want to call them) at the top level.
> >
> > When I go into the Configure Digikam menu it looks like it's offering
> > me a way to do this and it's certainly what I *thought* was being
> > offered by this 'new' ability that 0.10.0 is supposed to have.
> >
> > It shows me my existing directory tree under Local Collections so
> > under that I see a branch with /home/chris/pictures.  Then there's a
> > button which says "Add Collection", it seems obvious to me that if I
> > click on that button I should be able to add another collection at the
> > same level as /home/chris/pictures and be able to select *either*
> > /home/chris/pictures or the new collection.  But it doesn't work.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure this is what the OP was complaining about, it simply
> > doesn't work the way one expects (and hopes).
>
> I'm not sure I understood correctly what you mean, but for me it works this
> way:
>
> "Add collection" does not mean "create collection", so if I want two
> collections in my /.../pictures/ folder I create two folders in there which
> will contain the albums, one named "spring", the other "fall".
>
That's a rather subtle, not to say silly, distinction!  In the
computer sense surely Add means the same as Create doesn't it?


> After that I open digikam's settings and click on "add collection" to select
> one folder, then I add another collection and select the second folder. That
> way digikam now shows both collections and each of them can have multiple
> albums.
>
Which doesn't do anything that I couldn't already do.  It's simply
another directory/folder under the digikam top-level.  The only extra
function it provides is the ability to have the new 'collection' in an
un-connected hierarchy which you can do anyway with a symbolic link.

What I want to be able to do is to start up digikam seeing only one or
the other collection and *nothing* else.  I want totally separate
collections where I won't be distracted by any other ones I may have.


> If I click on "add collection" the window title reads something like "select
> the folder that contains your collection", which seems to mediate exactly what
> needs to be done.
>
Yes, but it doesn't produce what I want.  :-)


> I did not try yet, but if you have a collection that includes /.../pictures,
> it does not make sense to have another collection pointing to
> /.../pictures/spring, as that one would already be contained in the former.
>
It does in fact allow you to have more than one collection with the
same name, I managed to create a second 'pictures' collection so that
I actually had two 'pictures' hierarchies under My Albums.


I think what I would really like is the ability to remove "My Albums"
completely, it's superfluous and wastes space.  I *know* they're my
albums, who else's could they be?

Then I want to be able to start digikam up showing different top-level
directories/folders/collections called (say):-

    family pictures
    pictures for sale
    personal

with each being totally independent, i.e. if you're looking at 'pictures
for sale' you can't see 'family pictures' or 'personal' up at the top level.

You could either select which you want when digikam is started, i.e.
it would present a list of collections to select from, or you could
specify on the command line.

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Le 15/11/2009 12:31, Chris G a écrit :

> What I want to be able to do is to start up digikam seeing only one or
> the other collection and *nothing* else.  I want totally separate
> collections where I won't be distracted by any other ones I may have.

ok, did you see there is a line to configure the path to the database?
changing database should do what you want (not tried)

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Jim MacLeod-6
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sean darcy wrote:

> digikam-1.0.0.-rc6. I have one album created: /opt/camera/summer-2009.
> Under that album I can access all sub-folders.
>
> Now I want to create a new folder : /opt/camera/fall-2009. I can create
> it as a sub-folder in summer-2009, but I can't create it as a top-level
> folder. When I highlight "My Albums" the option to create a new folder
> is grayed out.
>
> What am I missing?

Create a new directory eg /home/../album2.
Go to Settings/Configure/Collections, click on 'add collection' and select
/home/../album2.

Now when you start Digikam you can select which album you want, the other
will be 'hidden'. I think this may be as good as it gets. Anything beyond
this would require changing the config file.
>
> sean
HTH

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Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 01:32:01PM +0000, Jim MacLeod wrote:

> sean darcy wrote:
>
> > digikam-1.0.0.-rc6. I have one album created: /opt/camera/summer-2009.
> > Under that album I can access all sub-folders.
> >
> > Now I want to create a new folder : /opt/camera/fall-2009. I can create
> > it as a sub-folder in summer-2009, but I can't create it as a top-level
> > folder. When I highlight "My Albums" the option to create a new folder
> > is grayed out.
> >
> > What am I missing?
>
> Create a new directory eg /home/../album2.
> Go to Settings/Configure/Collections, click on 'add collection' and select
> /home/../album2.
>
> Now when you start Digikam you can select which album you want, the other
> will be 'hidden'. I think this may be as good as it gets. Anything beyond
> this would require changing the config file.
> >
> > sean

That's not how it seems to work for me, if it *was* how it worked I'd
be very happy!

I have my digikam with its top level album in /home/chris/pictures.
If I add "/tmp/pictures" and select that in "Add Collection" I just
get *both* /home/chris/pictures and /tmp/pictures in My Albums.

I can't select either /home/chris/pictures or /tmp/pictures when
digikam is started and have the other hidden.

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Jim MacLeod-6
Chris G wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 01:32:01PM +0000, Jim MacLeod wrote:
>> sean darcy wrote:
>>
>> > digikam-1.0.0.-rc6. I have one album created: /opt/camera/summer-2009.
>> > Under that album I can access all sub-folders.
>> >
>> > Now I want to create a new folder : /opt/camera/fall-2009. I can create
>> > it as a sub-folder in summer-2009, but I can't create it as a top-level
>> > folder. When I highlight "My Albums" the option to create a new folder
>> > is grayed out.
>> >
>> > What am I missing?
>>
>> Create a new directory eg /home/../album2.
>> Go to Settings/Configure/Collections, click on 'add collection' and
>> select /home/../album2.
>>
>> Now when you start Digikam you can select which album you want, the other
>> will be 'hidden'. I think this may be as good as it gets. Anything beyond
>> this would require changing the config file.
>> >
>> > sean
>
> That's not how it seems to work for me, if it *was* how it worked I'd
> be very happy!
>
> I have my digikam with its top level album in /home/chris/pictures.
> If I add "/tmp/pictures" and select that in "Add Collection" I just
> get *both* /home/chris/pictures and /tmp/pictures in My Albums.
>
> I can't select either /home/chris/pictures or /tmp/pictures when
> digikam is started and have the other hidden.
>
I'm guessing that the only way to truly separate them would be to have two
totally individual config files so that there was no link at all between
them. However that need some method of activating the relevant config file
before starting digikam.
Sorry I cant be more helpful
Jim


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Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 02:36:33PM +0000, Jim MacLeod wrote:

> Chris G wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 01:32:01PM +0000, Jim MacLeod wrote:
> >> sean darcy wrote:
> >>
> >> > digikam-1.0.0.-rc6. I have one album created: /opt/camera/summer-2009.
> >> > Under that album I can access all sub-folders.
> >> >
> >> > Now I want to create a new folder : /opt/camera/fall-2009. I can create
> >> > it as a sub-folder in summer-2009, but I can't create it as a top-level
> >> > folder. When I highlight "My Albums" the option to create a new folder
> >> > is grayed out.
> >> >
> >> > What am I missing?
> >>
> >> Create a new directory eg /home/../album2.
> >> Go to Settings/Configure/Collections, click on 'add collection' and
> >> select /home/../album2.
> >>
> >> Now when you start Digikam you can select which album you want, the other
> >> will be 'hidden'. I think this may be as good as it gets. Anything beyond
> >> this would require changing the config file.
> >> >
> >> > sean
> >
> > That's not how it seems to work for me, if it *was* how it worked I'd
> > be very happy!
> >
> > I have my digikam with its top level album in /home/chris/pictures.
> > If I add "/tmp/pictures" and select that in "Add Collection" I just
> > get *both* /home/chris/pictures and /tmp/pictures in My Albums.
> >
> > I can't select either /home/chris/pictures or /tmp/pictures when
> > digikam is started and have the other hidden.
> >
> I'm guessing that the only way to truly separate them would be to have two
> totally individual config files so that there was no link at all between
> them. However that need some method of activating the relevant config file
> before starting digikam.

Changing the config file has its problems - hence my recent E-Mail
about it.

I have come up with a fairly reasonable solution - launch digikam from
a script which changes the HOME environment variable before running
digikam.  E.g. I have:-

    #!/bin/bash

    export HOME=/home/chris/photo2

    /usr/bin/digikam

Digikam then starts up and creates a new KDE configuration hierarchy
in /home/chris/photo2 giving me a completely independent digikam which
still has its configuration and data in my home directory.

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Re: How to make a new top-level album?

Jim MacLeod-6
Chris G wrote:

>
> I have come up with a fairly reasonable solution - launch digikam from
> a script which changes the HOME environment variable before running
> digikam.  E.g. I have:-
>
>     #!/bin/bash
>
>     export HOME=/home/chris/photo2
>
>     /usr/bin/digikam
>
> Digikam then starts up and creates a new KDE configuration hierarchy
> in /home/chris/photo2 giving me a completely independent digikam which
> still has its configuration and data in my home directory.
>
Late thought - starting digikam from konsole with
digikam --database-directory <dir>.
haven't tried, but would that do the same as your script?


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Re: How to make a new top-level album?

Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 04:15:07PM +0000, Jim MacLeod wrote:

> Chris G wrote:
> >
> > I have come up with a fairly reasonable solution - launch digikam from
> > a script which changes the HOME environment variable before running
> > digikam.  E.g. I have:-
> >
> >     #!/bin/bash
> >
> >     export HOME=/home/chris/photo2
> >
> >     /usr/bin/digikam
> >
> > Digikam then starts up and creates a new KDE configuration hierarchy
> > in /home/chris/photo2 giving me a completely independent digikam which
> > still has its configuration and data in my home directory.
> >
> Late thought - starting digikam from konsole with
> digikam --database-directory <dir>.
> haven't tried, but would that do the same as your script?
>
Doesn't appear to, but I may be confused.

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