Help needed on ubuntu 11.10
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Hi All, I have realy no idea how to go on. Google did not come up with a great answer. Any ideas around here? Are a great idea for a rockstable different linux distro, not messing up my computers twice a year? TIA as always, _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
Re: Help needed on ubuntu 11.10
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I guess this is very off topic.
I know the feeling. Happened to me once and after that I never upgrade to a new Ubuntu release but always go for a new fresh install after doing backups. That doesn't help you now. When do you get the black screen? During boot after or before grub or when you are starting Xorg/Gnome/KDE? You can always boot from a livecd and check or backup your files. From there you can also log into your installed system setting it up in a chroot (don't forget to bind the system resources) and update, remove or change your installed packages. Maybe this is deep water for you so it's better to use the livecd to backup all your data and then do a re-installation? Almost too many parameters that can be wrong to helt like this. /Philip On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Rinus Bakker <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi All, > Just returned from a trip and decided to start with updating my pc's from > ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10. > As usual this action destroid my entire system. Now I have 2 pc's presenting > me a black screen. It was to expect of course, at has never been different, > but I did not bother to much because I have backups. But this time restoring > the backup results in a statement about wrong license: grub rescue> > > I have realy no idea how to go on. Google did not come up with a great > answer. > > Any ideas around here? > > Are a great idea for a rockstable different linux distro, not messing up my > computers twice a year? > > TIA as always, > Rinus > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > > Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Yes, your method is better I guess. I'm going to try, it will keep me busy for a while but hopefully with better result.
Is backup of user dir and etc sufficient, and what do I afterwards, just overwrite the dirs in the new install with the old ones? Rinus Philip Johnsson <[hidden email]>schreef: >I guess this is very off topic. > >I know the feeling. Happened to me once and after that I never upgrade >to a new Ubuntu release but always go for a new fresh install after >doing backups. That doesn't help you now. > >When do you get the black screen? During boot after or before grub or >when you are starting Xorg/Gnome/KDE? > >You can always boot from a livecd and check or backup your files. From >there you can also log into your installed system setting it up in a >chroot (don't forget to bind the system resources) and update, remove >or change your installed packages. Maybe this is deep water for you so >it's better to use the livecd to backup all your data and then do a >re-installation? > >Almost too many parameters that can be wrong to helt like this. > >/Philip > > >On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Rinus Bakker ><[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi All, >> Just returned from a trip and decided to start with updating my pc's from >> ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10. >> As usual this action destroid my entire system. Now I have 2 pc's presenting >> me a black screen. It was to expect of course, at has never been different, >> but I did not bother to much because I have backups. But this time restoring >> the backup results in a statement about wrong license: grub rescue> >> >> I have realy no idea how to go on. Google did not come up with a great >> answer. >> >> Any ideas around here? >> >> Are a great idea for a rockstable different linux distro, not messing up my >> computers twice a year? >> >> TIA as always, >> Rinus >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Digikam-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Digikam-users mailing list >[hidden email] >https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Can't really assist much with the Ubuntu problem, I had had a number of issues with Ubuntu (not least that they weren't giving me the option to goto Digikam 2.0 fast enough) and I've since moved to Arch Linux and found it, well, incredibly nice. It's worked very well for me, so for my two cents, if you're happy to muck in and learn a little terminal (and it really is only a little terminal) - James Duerr E-mail: [hidden email] --------------------- Discover a lost art - play Marbles. May 2004 www.marillion.com From: Philip Johnsson <[hidden email]> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Help needed on ubuntu 11.10 I guess this is very off topic. I know the feeling. Happened to me once and after that I never upgrade to a new Ubuntu release but always go for a new fresh install after doing backups. That doesn't help you now. When do you get the black screen? During boot after or before grub or when you are starting Xorg/Gnome/KDE? You can always boot from a livecd and check or backup your files. From there you can also log into your installed system setting it up in a chroot (don't forget to bind the system resources) and update, remove or change your installed packages. Maybe this is deep water for you so it's better to use the livecd to backup all your data and then do a re-installation? Almost too many parameters that can be wrong to helt like this. /Philip On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Rinus Bakker <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi All, > Just returned from a trip and decided to start with updating my pc's from > ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10. > As usual this action destroid my entire system. Now I have 2 pc's presenting > me a black screen. It was to expect of course, at has never been different, > but I did not bother to much because I have backups. But this time restoring > the backup results in a statement about wrong license: grub rescue> > > I have realy no idea how to go on. Google did not come up with a great > answer. > > Any ideas around here? > > Are a great idea for a rockstable different linux distro, not messing up my > computers twice a year? > > TIA as always, > Rinus > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > > Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
Re: Help needed on ubuntu 11.10 (Fedora 15 !)
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Ouch! So sorry to hear about your issue, Rinus. I've got no answers but, I have a suggestion if you're thinking of moving to a different distro... After being thoroughly pi**ed off with Ubuntu 11.10 (I can begrudgingly accept Unity but, I CANNOT accept commercial links in an OS whenever I "search"), I loaded Fedora 15, KDE. The result: FANTASTIC! I took me awhile to understand how to get things done with KDE but I'm now hooked :-) The only drawback is that Fedora 15 only supports DigiKam 1.9 :-( Something to do with the KDE version, I gather. This isn't an issue for me because F16 is due to be released in early November. Apparently we'll be able to upgrade to the newer version of DK * I had remained current with DigiKam's upgrades while on Ubuntu due to Philip's tremendous help by providing the PPAs. Now, however, I'm in the dark again. Just in case F16 arrives later than expected or, if I'm not confident in upgrading, can anybody provide some instructions as to how to run DigiKam 2.x on F15? On 10/24/2011 07:01 PM, Rinus Bakker wrote:
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Re: Help needed on ubuntu 11.10 (Fedora 15 !)
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Am 25.10.2011 10:28, schrieb J Albrecht:
> > Ouch! So sorry to hear about your issue, Rinus. I've got no answers > but, I have a suggestion if you're thinking of moving to a different > distro... > > After being thoroughly pi**ed off with Ubuntu 11.10 (I can begrudgingly > accept Unity but, I CANNOT accept commercial links in an OS whenever I > "search"), I loaded Fedora 15, KDE. The result: FANTASTIC! I took me > awhile to understand how to get things done with KDE but I'm now hooked > :-) > > The only drawback is that Fedora 15 only supports DigiKam 1.9 :-( > Something to do with the KDE version, I gather. This is due to digikam 2.x requires (or wishes) functions bundled in KDE 4.7 which will not be shipped with F15. > This isn't an issue for > me because F16 is due to be released in early November. Apparently we'll > be able to upgrade to the newer version of DK > > * I had remained current with DigiKam's upgrades while on Ubuntu due to > Philip's tremendous help by providing the PPAs. Now, however, I'm in the > dark again. Just in case F16 arrives later than expected or, if I'm not > confident in upgrading, can anybody provide some instructions as to how > to run DigiKam 2.x on F15? Use KDE testing repo. There you will get KDE 4.7 and Digikam 2.x. This versions are not offically supported but there is a very active KDE fedora mailing list where you get help if needed. I myself use fedora since a few years and am very pleased with it. But for me digikam 1.9 is enough. Martin _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
Re: Help needed on ubuntu 11.10 (Fedora 15 !)
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If you are familiar with Ubuntu and like it otherwise but don't like what have happened with Unity and that stuff you can always try Kubuntu and use KDE instead. I have done so for a long time. I love KDE and think it have a much more modern fell (not trying to start a flamewar). Still always doing a reinstall with every new release and not using the system dist upgrade with new releases. Don't think I would do that with any dist anyway. /Philip On Oct 25, 2011 10:28 AM, "J Albrecht" <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Fwd: Re: Help needed on ubuntu 11.10 (Fedora 15 !)
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Hi thanks for the respons. If you want to build you can search for how to build digikam for dummies, there you will find a link to marie-noelle augendre's description related to fedora. Op 25 okt. 2011 10:28 schreef "J Albrecht" <[hidden email]> het volgende: > _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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In return to the list some serious info here probably only useful to Ubuntu users. If you are on Ubuntu 11.04 and you are tempted to download something, hold your breath a few seconds and make sure you update and NOT upgrade. If you do upgrade to 11.10 the following may happen: - your system does not start anymore - your restored backup does not start anymore eyther. So please follow philips´s advice and make a clean install and do only so after a real backup of your system. fsarchiver is your friend. Now you will find the new system probably not as much fun as you hoped for. You may succeed to get rid of unity and overlay scrollbar, but gnome environment is not what it used to be. IMHO the great OS ubuntu has evolved within 6 months to a useless peace of crab. So, after all you might want to restore your backup of 11.04 which maybe no longer starts due to grub problems caused by 11.10. I figured out how to solve that, so you may ask if it happens to you too. If you just backed up your settings and personal stuff, you should be aware that a symple rsync does not takes hidden files in acount. The things you wanted most take care off are lost. to name a few: .bash_history .thunderbird .mozilla .kde/share/config/digikamrc Two symple mouse clicks in a split second caused 24 hours of stress. And more to come, I just succeeded to get a backup from august 25 running again on one of my pc´s. Ubuntu has matched up with windows in causing trouble, that makes me realy sad. I realy hope that softwaremakers will grow up a little, playtime is over, you don´t have to show off what you are capable of any longer, don´t be so obsessed with so called cool stuff, you have the power to make pc´s to great fascillitating tools, to make our lifes better instead of worse. Kind regards, Rinus Op 24-10-11 19:01, Rinus Bakker schreef:
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Re: Help needed on ubuntu 11.10
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Just out of curiosity, how did you run rsync to not sync the hidden files?
/Anders 2011/10/26 sleepless <[hidden email]>: > Thanks for all who tried to cheer me up a little. > In return to the list some serious info here probably only useful to Ubuntu > users. > > If you are on Ubuntu 11.04 and you are tempted to download something, hold > your breath a few seconds and make sure you update and NOT upgrade. > > If you do upgrade to 11.10 the following may happen: > - your system does not start anymore > - your restored backup does not start anymore eyther. > So please follow philips´s advice and make a clean install and do only so > after a real backup of your system. fsarchiver is your friend. > > Now you will find the new system probably not as much fun as you hoped for. > You may succeed to get rid of unity and overlay scrollbar, but gnome > environment is not what it used to be. IMHO the great OS ubuntu has evolved > within 6 months to a useless peace of crab. > So, after all you might want to restore your backup of 11.04 which maybe no > longer starts due to grub problems caused by 11.10. > I figured out how to solve that, so you may ask if it happens to you too. > > If you just backed up your settings and personal stuff, you should be aware > that a symple rsync does not takes hidden files in acount. The things you > wanted most take care off are lost. > > to name a few: > .bash_history > .thunderbird > .mozilla > .kde/share/config/digikamrc > > > Two symple mouse clicks in a split second caused 24 hours of stress. And > more to come, I just succeeded to get a backup from august 25 running again > on one of my pc´s. Ubuntu has matched up with windows in causing trouble, > that makes me realy sad. I realy hope that softwaremakers will grow up a > little, playtime is over, you don´t have to show off what you are capable of > any longer, don´t be so obsessed with so called cool stuff, you have the > power to make pc´s to great fascillitating tools, to make our lifes better > instead of worse. > > Kind regards, > Rinus > > > > Op 24-10-11 19:01, Rinus Bakker schreef: > > Hi All, > Just returned from a trip and decided to start with updating my pc's from > ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10. > As usual this action destroid my entire system. Now I have 2 pc's presenting > me a black screen. It was to expect of course, at has never been different, > but I did not bother to much because I have backups. But this time restoring > the backup results in a statement about wrong license: grub rescue> > > I have realy no idea how to go on. Google did not come up with a great > answer. > > Any ideas around here? > > Are a great idea for a rockstable different linux distro, not messing up my > computers twice a year? > > TIA as always, > Rinus > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > > Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Am 26.10.2011 12:27, schrieb sleepless:
> Thanks for all who tried to cheer me up a little. > In return to the list some serious info here probably only useful to > Ubuntu users. > > If you are on Ubuntu 11.04 and you are tempted to download something, > hold your breath a few seconds and make sure you update and NOT upgrade. > > If you do upgrade to 11.10 the following may happen: > - your system does not start anymore > - your restored backup does not start anymore eyther. > So please follow philips´s advice and make a clean install and do only > so after a real backup of your system. fsarchiver is your friend. > > Now you will find the new system probably not as much fun as you hoped for. > You may succeed to get rid of unity and overlay scrollbar, but gnome > environment is not what it used to be. IMHO the great OS ubuntu has > evolved within 6 months to a useless peace of crab. > So, after all you might want to restore your backup of 11.04 which maybe > no longer starts due to grub problems caused by 11.10. > I figured out how to solve that, so you may ask if it happens to you too. > > If you just backed up your settings and personal stuff, you should be > aware that a symple rsync does not takes hidden files in acount. The > things you wanted most take care off are lost. > > to name a few: > .bash_history > .thunderbird > .mozilla > .kde/share/config/digikamrc Rsync perfectly handles hidden dot-files. If you run rsync like 'rsync -av * /dest/dir' this will not take dot-files but this is a limitation not bound to rsync. If you want to backup your home directory with rsync use 'rsync -av /home/user /dest/dir' instead. Just a tip: try rsync-backup run by cron. With this you get an incremental backup with history and plain files accessible via file management. And Rinus: try Fedora (either KDE or Gnome spin). They are up to date and at least I had no upgrade issues since a few versions with three of my hosts. Martin _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Op 26-10-11 12:44, Anders Stedtlund schreef:
> Just out of curiosity, how did you run rsync to not sync the hidden files? > > /Anders As far as I remeber Just without any option else then -r. Maybe I should have used sudo, realy no idea. Rinus > 2011/10/26 sleepless<[hidden email]>: >> Thanks for all who tried to cheer me up a little. >> In return to the list some serious info here probably only useful to Ubuntu >> users. >> >> If you are on Ubuntu 11.04 and you are tempted to download something, hold >> your breath a few seconds and make sure you update and NOT upgrade. >> >> If you do upgrade to 11.10 the following may happen: >> - your system does not start anymore >> - your restored backup does not start anymore eyther. >> So please follow philips´s advice and make a clean install and do only so >> after a real backup of your system. fsarchiver is your friend. >> >> Now you will find the new system probably not as much fun as you hoped for. >> You may succeed to get rid of unity and overlay scrollbar, but gnome >> environment is not what it used to be. IMHO the great OS ubuntu has evolved >> within 6 months to a useless peace of crab. >> So, after all you might want to restore your backup of 11.04 which maybe no >> longer starts due to grub problems caused by 11.10. >> I figured out how to solve that, so you may ask if it happens to you too. >> >> If you just backed up your settings and personal stuff, you should be aware >> that a symple rsync does not takes hidden files in acount. The things you >> wanted most take care off are lost. >> >> to name a few: >> .bash_history >> .thunderbird >> .mozilla >> .kde/share/config/digikamrc >> >> >> Two symple mouse clicks in a split second caused 24 hours of stress. And >> more to come, I just succeeded to get a backup from august 25 running again >> on one of my pc´s. Ubuntu has matched up with windows in causing trouble, >> that makes me realy sad. I realy hope that softwaremakers will grow up a >> little, playtime is over, you don´t have to show off what you are capable of >> any longer, don´t be so obsessed with so called cool stuff, you have the >> power to make pc´s to great fascillitating tools, to make our lifes better >> instead of worse. >> >> Kind regards, >> Rinus >> >> >> >> Op 24-10-11 19:01, Rinus Bakker schreef: >> >> Hi All, >> Just returned from a trip and decided to start with updating my pc's from >> ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10. >> As usual this action destroid my entire system. Now I have 2 pc's presenting >> me a black screen. It was to expect of course, at has never been different, >> but I did not bother to much because I have backups. But this time restoring >> the backup results in a statement about wrong license: grub rescue> >> >> I have realy no idea how to go on. Google did not come up with a great >> answer. >> >> Any ideas around here? >> >> Are a great idea for a rockstable different linux distro, not messing up my >> computers twice a year? >> >> TIA as always, >> Rinus >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Digikam-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Digikam-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Op 26-10-11 12:52, Martin (KDE) schreef:
> Am 26.10.2011 12:27, schrieb sleepless: >> Thanks for all who tried to cheer me up a little. >> In return to the list some serious info here probably only useful to >> Ubuntu users. >> >> If you are on Ubuntu 11.04 and you are tempted to download something, >> hold your breath a few seconds and make sure you update and NOT upgrade. >> >> If you do upgrade to 11.10 the following may happen: >> - your system does not start anymore >> - your restored backup does not start anymore eyther. >> So please follow philips´s advice and make a clean install and do only >> so after a real backup of your system. fsarchiver is your friend. >> >> Now you will find the new system probably not as much fun as you hoped for. >> You may succeed to get rid of unity and overlay scrollbar, but gnome >> environment is not what it used to be. IMHO the great OS ubuntu has >> evolved within 6 months to a useless peace of crab. >> So, after all you might want to restore your backup of 11.04 which maybe >> no longer starts due to grub problems caused by 11.10. >> I figured out how to solve that, so you may ask if it happens to you too. >> >> If you just backed up your settings and personal stuff, you should be >> aware that a symple rsync does not takes hidden files in acount. The >> things you wanted most take care off are lost. >> >> to name a few: >> .bash_history >> .thunderbird >> .mozilla >> .kde/share/config/digikamrc > Rsync perfectly handles hidden dot-files. If you run rsync like 'rsync > -av * /dest/dir' this will not take dot-files but this is a limitation > not bound to rsync. > > If you want to backup your home directory with rsync use 'rsync -av > /home/user /dest/dir' instead. > > Just a tip: try rsync-backup run by cron. With this you get an > incremental backup with history and plain files accessible via file > management. > > And Rinus: try Fedora (either KDE or Gnome spin). They are up to date > and at least I had no upgrade issues since a few versions with three of > my hosts. > > Martin > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > appeared unstable on my pc. Btw, don´t know if it has anything to do with, but I rsync(ed) from an realy old live usb. Rinus _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Crisis management II: This is to nice not to share
Only relevant if you work on two computeres and are stupid or unlucky enough to mess at least one of them up without backup. To setup my second pc without a backup was a lot easyer then the first one. I found an old ISO of Ubuntu 11.04 and installed it. To clone my laptop into my desktop I generated a list of installed software dpkg --get-selections > installed-software emailed this list "installed-software" to my home dir on my second pc sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade dpkg --set-selections < installed-software sudo apt-get install dselect sudo dselect choosed to install the software took a shower selected quit Done Try that on windows :=))) Best regards, Rinus Op 26-10-11 12:58, sleepless schreef: > Op 26-10-11 12:52, Martin (KDE) schreef: >> Am 26.10.2011 12:27, schrieb sleepless: >>> Thanks for all who tried to cheer me up a little. >>> In return to the list some serious info here probably only useful to >>> Ubuntu users. >>> >>> If you are on Ubuntu 11.04 and you are tempted to download something, >>> hold your breath a few seconds and make sure you update and NOT >>> upgrade. >>> >>> If you do upgrade to 11.10 the following may happen: >>> - your system does not start anymore >>> - your restored backup does not start anymore eyther. >>> So please follow philips´s advice and make a clean install and do only >>> so after a real backup of your system. fsarchiver is your friend. >>> >>> Now you will find the new system probably not as much fun as you >>> hoped for. >>> You may succeed to get rid of unity and overlay scrollbar, but gnome >>> environment is not what it used to be. IMHO the great OS ubuntu has >>> evolved within 6 months to a useless peace of crab. >>> So, after all you might want to restore your backup of 11.04 which >>> maybe >>> no longer starts due to grub problems caused by 11.10. >>> I figured out how to solve that, so you may ask if it happens to you >>> too. >>> >>> If you just backed up your settings and personal stuff, you should be >>> aware that a symple rsync does not takes hidden files in acount. The >>> things you wanted most take care off are lost. >>> >>> to name a few: >>> .bash_history >>> .thunderbird >>> .mozilla >>> .kde/share/config/digikamrc >> Rsync perfectly handles hidden dot-files. If you run rsync like 'rsync >> -av * /dest/dir' this will not take dot-files but this is a limitation >> not bound to rsync. >> >> If you want to backup your home directory with rsync use 'rsync -av >> /home/user /dest/dir' instead. >> >> Just a tip: try rsync-backup run by cron. With this you get an >> incremental backup with history and plain files accessible via file >> management. >> >> And Rinus: try Fedora (either KDE or Gnome spin). They are up to date >> and at least I had no upgrade issues since a few versions with three of >> my hosts. >> >> Martin >> _______________________________________________ >> Digikam-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >> > Thanks Martin, I have been thinking about that too. I tried Mint but > it appeared unstable on my pc. > Btw, don´t know if it has anything to do with, but I rsync(ed) from an > realy old live usb. > Rinus > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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