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Gilles Caulier 2013/9/2 Remco Viëtor <[hidden email]>: > On Monday 02 September 2013 03:07:58 [hidden email] wrote: >>(...) I never said anything >> about Backdoors, you and some other person did. Does Digikam also have a >> backdoor? It does not seem like many users here are familiar with how > data >> mining and spyware work, they do not require a back door** > > Well, could you at least tell us how you found out that Digikam opens > internet connections (and perhaps to what sites/IP addresses)? > > That would allow us to judge for ourselves what the dangers are, and how to > avoid/remove them. > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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In reply to this post by cgw993
Hello,
Did you check to which hosts/ports DigiKam tried to connect? Did you actually let it establish the connection so that you could inspect the packages' content to verify if what was being sent supported your theory of spying? I guess your are pretty new to online communities and Free and Open Source Software. A much more constructive approach when posting to a mailling list is to state relevant observed facts and ask questions about them. Indulge me while I make the effort of reformulating your original message : ==== Begin alternate reality ==== Greetings, I just installed Digikam and used it for a very short while. I have a few questions regarding it's behavior : 1. When I started DigiKam, my firewall notified me that it tried to open 3 connections. What is the purpose of these connections and what data is being exchanged? 2. I did not find it easy to navigate the file-system with Digikam to find my pictures. How should I organize them to work efficiently with Digikam? Thank you for your time and patience to help a new user like me. ==== End alternate reality ==== In 1, you did gather or provide enough information to substantiate any claim of spying. In 2, instead of wondering why it wasn't easy (It's certain that no software developer will ever ever program something that will make his own life harder), you claim that the software doesn't fit your usage pattern. Nothing you wrote in your message indicates that you have made an effort to understand how to use the software. In regards to 3, I find it very ironic that you quote Richard M. Stallman. Digikam has been developed as Free and Open Source Software. The contributors (software developers, bug reporters, testers/users, documentation writers, etc...) have made a very significant software package that adheres to the principles of FOSS. Also, as I wrote regarding your first comment, there you did not provide enough information to allow to conclude that Digikam spies on it's users. I happen to like Digikam and, for me, although it's not perfect, it's the best I have found among all existing alternatives. Now, I have to salute the people in this community, because despite your inflammatory comments, everyone replied in a constructive and civilized manner. To me this is a testament to the maturity and thoughtfulness of the people involved in this project. I strongly suggest that you follow their example! Digikam's community : +1 Best regards, Samuel Gilbert On September 2, 2013 02:58:49 [hidden email] wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Photonoxx > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 2:37 AM > To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power > of open source > Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Greetings > > Le Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:38:32 +0200, <[hidden email]> a écrit: > > Greetings, > > > > > > I just installed Digikam. My review of the software so far - > > > > > > 1. Digikam opened at least 3 separate connections the internet. Why?! > > I had > > to shut these connections down with my firewall. The program certainty > > does not make this obvious to any typical user. I think there may have > > been more than 3 but its late and I will search more tomorrow before I > > uninstall it. There can be no legitimate reason for this and this was > > not disclosed explicitly on installation. > > No comment, see Gilles answer > > > 2. Digikam does not make it easy to navigate drives/folders on the > > computer to find photos. This is the entire point of photo > > management software to begin with! It seems more designed to get the > > user to relinquish control of their current photo organization to > > digikam. > > Digikam doesn't offer the possibility to browse directly your drive, you > have to define folder as collection to tell where photos are located and > consequently which photos do want to manage with digikam. > > It's a strange behavior for a spying program to permit you tell it which > photos it can watch, no ? Ugh. > > Apart if you spread your photos everywhere in your drive, or your not enough > patient to set digikam properly, I don't see a matter with digikam way of > managing datas, and even in this case, you probably can set your entire > drive as a collection, it's probably not the cleverest thing to do but it > should be possible. > > Think about other program which doesn't let you at all where you want to > stock your pictures. Ugh ^2 > > > 3. To newer users of "open source". Free software does not mean the > > software will not spy on you, or do things you would resent, or anything > > else the developer(s) maybe have wanted it to do. It does mean though > > that > > the software can be changed because the source is available. A good > > example of free software that spies on its users is Ubunto. Users did > > not like this, so a modified version was made that did not spy on the > > users. > > Free software makes this possible. Please see Richard Stallman's > > youtube video on Ubunto. > > It's something slightly different I thing, Ubuntu (not Ubunto) use some > closed source elements, so, we can't know exactly what these elements does. > ***It is clear you dont know which part of Ubunto I referred to, watch the > video.** Personally I use Ubuntu and don't really mind about this **Who > cares? Good that you have the freedom to decide though. Ubunto spies on > users, this is well documented and this takes away the users choice ***, I'm > not sure Windows or MacOSX users are more protected in this case, and > except if you use strongly secured internet connection and network (as > using tor), each time you go on internet many server spy on you. **Data > still gets transmitted, data that has nothing to do with what the users > wants, and more to do to supplying Google with YOUR data for Google's > profit** > > The fact Digikam is free software / open source doesn't just mean you can > change it, it means too you can see what it does by reading the source, and > since many years digikam exists, if it spy its users, I think it would be > well known now ? Don't you think ? **Not necessarily, see Ubunto youtube > video by Richard Stallman and listen carefully** > > If as suggest Gilles, the internet connection is initiated by geo-location > online map feature, you may build your own digikam without these features or > stop waste our time and use another software. **Like I said, my intent is > to inform users that may not be aware of these issues., if the > moderator/salesman doesnt like it, then can abuse their power by censoring > me** > > > Profiting by spying on and data mining users data is fine I guess, as > > long as the user has given EXPLICIT permission to do this every time, > > not via > > some vague end user license agreement that nobody reads. Digikam has > > not > > made adequate disclosure to it's users. > > You give your permission by choosing it and installing it **I did not give > it permission to open at least 3 internet connections without my consent and > especially not to allow Google access to any of my photos or other data** > but anyway I don't thing Digikam spy your datas ** Google, Adobe, Apple, > Microsoft and others also dont believe they spy on people either and have > said so publically many times ** . Does Firefox spying you because it > opens internet connections **What a clever point....:|** > > > My Digikam review Grade - F > > > > > > Requested Modifications - Do not spy on or data mine users photos or > > any other data, or do anything else without the users explicit and clear > > consent! Allow users to easily navigate their own photos. If spying on > > the users must be a feature, THEN DISLCOSE IT CLEARLY! > > My review Grade : A since it's a wonderful "Free software" and should be > encouraged as it merits ! > > -- > Nicolas Boulesteix > Photographe chasseur de lueurs > http://www.photonoxx.fr > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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In reply to this post by cgw993
I doubt if you will be censored for having an opinion or expressing a dislike of DK, but you might be for persisting in taking a tiresomely antagonistic approach. As far as locating images is concerned, files and folders are a low level abstraction. DK offers a higher level abstraction so that where they are actually stored in your computer is no longer relevant. I believe you can though, if you wish, show the image in its folder using a file manager from within DK, but you have to rtfm first to discover that, or ask nicely in this mailing list. On Sep 2, 2013 10:40 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On Mandag den 2. september 2013 18:39:24, Neil Haughton wrote:
> As far as locating images is concerned, files and folders are a low level > abstraction. DK offers a higher level abstraction so that where they are > actually stored in your computer is no longer relevant. I believe you can > though, if you wish, show the image in its folder using a file manager from > within DK, but you have to rtfm first to discover that, or ask nicely in > this mailing list. An album is a folder, images are files. But digikam only lets you browse configured root folders, known in digikam as collections. This is because digikam keeps additional information about the images in its database. If you dump images in folders used for digikam collections, digikam will notice at startup, and update the database (unless you ask it not to, afaik). -- Anders _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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In reply to this post by Remco Viëtor
I cannot believe the amount of salesmen on this list who try to confuse this
issue and who could not care less at all about users basic privacy and rights. Unbelievable. Why dont you give all the netstat parameters so that any new users can have a chance of using it correctly and interpreting the results? You may also want to explain how to find programs that have the ability to access the internet at any time other than just the ones accessing the internet at the exact moment you use netstat. I did not use netstat, it is more simple to check your own firewall and fiind all internet enabled programs. I guess it is debatable if Digikey and other do this in order to receive large grants from companies like Google so that they can write "free" software under the GPL license. This strategy does work in the long wrong, but denying the spying exists at all is the wrong thing to do. -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Remco Viëtor Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 3:13 AM To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Greetings On Monday 02 September 2013 01:38:32 [hidden email] wrote: >... (lots of stuff about Digikam spying, w/o a shred of proof) > [hidden email] I couldn't find any trace of Digikam opening an internet connection. But I have all KIPI plugins related to internet storage/publishing disabled. Also, how did you see that Digikam opened /internet/ connections? A bit of information so others can check seems the minimum. Using netstat I did find a series of /unix sockets/ opened by Digikam (10 or so) but those are typically used for inter-process communication. They were NOT /internet/ connections. Indeed, 'netstat --inet' did not show ANY connections involving Digikam. To see what netstat does, use Google or 'man inet'. Also, concluding from the presence of connections that data is /send out/ by Digikam is a bit fast, and an accusation that needs *proof*, not just an unsubstantiated 'I saw some internet connections involving DK, thus DK is data mining my photos'. When accusing, a minimum is disclosing the methods you used to collect your data. Wrt. your point 2, about navigation: Digikam supposes you have your images in directory trees. Just specify each of those trees as a collection. Personally, I wouldn't want Digikam to dig all over my hard disk to decide which directories to index, nor is there any reason (for me) to go out of my image collection from within Digikam... Remco _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Le 02/09/2013 20:26, [hidden email] a écrit :
> but denying the spying exists at all is the wrong thing to do. this is all shit (for the eventual reader of the archives) jdd -- http://www.dodin.org _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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-----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of jdd Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 3:14 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Greetings Le 02/09/2013 10:38, [hidden email] a écrit : > Greetings, > > I just installed Digikam. My review of the software so far – I read all the subsequent posts before answering to this one > > 1. Digikam opened at least 3 separate connections the internet. Why?! Before shouting you could have asked simply that. This is a perfectly normal question. **Where am I shouting?** But then you have to give some details. * how did you notice that? (to allow others to replicate the fact) **Check your firewall, usually there is a list of internet enabled programs. Find everything that sounds like it is from Digikey and disable internet access. All of mine were enabled to use internet with NO disclosure** * is that true at first install, before any option is changed by you? ** This should never be on by default! Duh!, this is the same thing as saying it is ok to spy on a user since they wont know how to detect it anyway ** is the later is right, there is a problem. IMHO, such option as going goggle map to geolocalize should *not* be active by default, eventually added by an install dialog. **This is such a fundamental violation of a persons privacy that it is next to impossible to imagine this was an "oops we did not think of of doing that" defect. Simply "discussing" the future change for years accomplishes nothing, the fact that it was there by default means it is going to stay there permenantly likely because of a grant from Google and others. I would uninstall the software. **Another note - Be careful how you uninstall the program because you may find that the internet enabled files remain behind after the uninstallation. How is that for respect for the users? I would suggest users get a program like Revo uninstaller pro or similar to clean up the remaining files the origial program "forgot" to remove** this is my own personal advice, and can be discussed here, and if most people agree, I'm sure it wil be included in future releases. > 2. Digikam does not make it easy to navigate drives/folders on the > computer to find photos. This is the entire point of photo > management software to begin with! wrong. The point of management software is *not* to scan your disk to find photos - this is extremely against privacy! If you like it, use picasa! **I don’t want the program scanning my computer. Most even beginning computer users know how to navigate their own drives and folders. Scanning collects data for Google and others and has very little to do to helping the user ** If you didn't yet organize your photos, it's time to do so. > Profiting by spying on and data mining users data is fine I guess no, it's not. But, anyway, this means having a way to store the info. **You are making this into "Just Trust Me Sotware... Trust us, yes we are scanning your entire hard drive and have open internet connects but its because we just want so much to help you! ** Did you trace the internet calls to see where the data is stored? May be your digikam file is compromised. **This is more misleading salesman BS** ** "Oh just ignore those internet connections" or "No one else has them...provided they somehow know how to disable all the features turned on by DEFAULT" On Windows I often have seen perfectly clean programms packed by other download centrers and filled with addwares or malwares (I just had this problem last week), but this is not digikam fault. Sincerely **There is nothing sincere about your answers above if you are a programmer. The responses seemed downright misleading I am sorry to say** jdd -- http://www.dodin.org _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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In reply to this post by Remco Viëtor
Ok here we do, the mailing list is getting ready to censor me. Now I am
"slandering" the software. Either use your firewall, or read about nestat an all of its parameters to check for internet enabled files. Using the firewall is likely much easier assuming you have a reasonable quality firewall software. I am not slandering the program at all. It does in fact have open internet connections that are not disclosed to the user. -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Remco Viëtor Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 3:18 AM To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Greetings On Monday 02 September 2013 02:29:20 [hidden email] wrote: > That is the stand by defense of software companies today, "prove we > are abusing the users". The review is intended, not for the users > that have an > interest in this software, and there are usually plenty of them > camping out > on these mailing lists, but rather to the user that may simply not > know that > that type of thing happens all the time. When a company profits by spying > on and abusing the users, that is essentially theft, actually it is > worse because it is the kind of damage that keeps on damaging and the > user has no > control or recourse. > > > > If the internet connections are not disclosed to the user in a clear > way - > then the software package is likely doing things that you would > likely have > said no to. The "salesmen" types camping here will try hard to convince > users that that isn't the case will not explain why the connections > are there without user consent. Informing other users is one thing, spreading slander is another. You still offer NO proof whatsoever for your accusations. To go to the Ubuntu case: there the accusers presented their observations and methodology, so others could check, as is the basis of open source. Your accusations are perfect closed source: "here are my conclusions, take 'm or leave 'm" Remco _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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In reply to this post by Remco Viëtor
I sure am getting plenty of labels here from salesmen, notice that I have
not attacked anyone personally. Everything I have said is true and can easily be verified by the user by checking their firewall or Netstat. Why do you think I have received so many replies, because what I have said is true. -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Remco Viëtor Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 3:39 AM To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Greetings On Monday 02 September 2013 12:18:51 Gilles Caulier wrote: > 2013/9/2 <[hidden email]>: > >(... enormous snip ...) > > > > In french we said "crazy hospital speech"... No way... > > Gilles Caulier Yeah, seems we got us a troll, apologies for feeding it. And thank you for all the hard work you put in Digikam :) Remco _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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In reply to this post by Jean-François Rabasse-2
I dont expect to convince the salespeople/developers, not one of them have
denied the connections are taking place exactly like I have said. -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jean-François Rabasse Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 4:13 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Greetings On Mon, 2 Sep 2013, Remco Viëtor wrote: > Yeah, seems we got us a troll, apologies for feeding it. :-) That's exactly what I was suspecting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29 The overall speech contains many known trolls « weapons », e.g. : > - My posts generate replies because I am right. Nonsense, obviously, as discussions lists and forums are based on questions and replies. A post to a list that wouldn't generate replies would indicate a dead list, and Digikam community seems well alive and active. (Perhaps the software isn't as « Big brother » as it could seem at first glance:-) > -I wonder how many more emails I will be here before some user > subjugating moderator censors me. Another classical troll behaviour, loving to count how many messages could be sent before being banned from a forum. Jean-François PS: also, people really worried about their personal privacy would probably not use a mailing portal as AOL that dispatch to everyone's knowledge their originating IP, thus allowing user localization around San Clemente, CA, United States _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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In reply to this post by cgw993
On Mandag den 2. september 2013 11:45:45, [hidden email] wrote:
> I sure am getting plenty of labels here from salesmen, notice that I have > not attacked anyone personally. Everything I have said is true and can > easily be verified by the user by checking their firewall or Netstat. Why > do you think I have received so many replies, because what I have said is > true. 1. I don't think anyone have problems with your message, rather with your tone. Being polite and constructive will help. 2. Digikam contacting the internet in order to make nice features work, is not a problem for the rest of us. I can not remember anyone complaing about such in the 8 years I used digikam. > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Remco Viëtor > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 3:39 AM > To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power > of open source > Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Greetings > > On Monday 02 September 2013 12:18:51 Gilles Caulier wrote: > > 2013/9/2 <[hidden email]>: > > >(... enormous snip ...) > > > > In french we said "crazy hospital speech"... No way... > > > > Gilles Caulier > > Yeah, seems we got us a troll, apologies for feeding it. > > And thank you for all the hard work you put in Digikam :) > > Remco > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users -- Kindly, Anders _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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In reply to this post by Remco Viëtor
I am not trying to hide my IP. Are you trying to hide yours?
-----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Remco Viëtor Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 4:33 AM To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Greetings On Monday 02 September 2013 13:13:29 Jean-François Rabasse wrote: (...) > PS: also, people really worried about their personal privacy would > probably not use a mailing portal as AOL that dispatch to everyone's > knowledge their originating IP, thus allowing user localization around > San Clemente, CA, United States AFAIK, the originating IP is always part of email headers, so that's not typical for AOL (I won't cite yours here, except it ends in xx.xx.xx.66 (and server ian.xx.xx.fr :) ) _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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In reply to this post by Sebastian Niehaus-2
Ok you insulted me. Why not address the specific points I made then? Instead of labeling me, why not explain why I am wrong? The reason is that you cant, I am right and can easily prove it and have. -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sebastian Niehaus Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 7:35 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Greetings Am 02.09.2013 11:40, schrieb [hidden email]: > -Last note - My posts generate replies because I am right. Your conclusions and your definition of "right" are *very* weird. Sick logic. > -I wonder how many more emails I will be here before some user > subjugating moderator censors me. I wonder why an outlook user and AOL member complains about spying in open source software. Go figure! You qualfied as an stupid troll, putting up a cheap flame bait. _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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In reply to this post by Remco Viëtor
I have done this several times already. Check your firewall for files that
have internet access...The files will come from a folder that has the digikam software. I suppose you can use netstat which is not really new user friendly . Anyway - I will answer the rest of the email and then step out of this thread. -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Remco Viëtor Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 7:52 AM To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Greetings On Monday 02 September 2013 03:07:58 [hidden email] wrote: >(...) I never said anything > about Backdoors, you and some other person did. Does Digikam also >have a backdoor? It does not seem like many users here are familiar >with how data > mining and spyware work, they do not require a back door** Well, could you at least tell us how you found out that Digikam opens internet connections (and perhaps to what sites/IP addresses)? That would allow us to judge for ourselves what the dangers are, and how to avoid/remove them. _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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In reply to this post by cgw993
On Monday 02 September 2013 11:42:08 [hidden email] wrote:
> Ok here we do, the mailing list is getting ready to censor me. Now I am > "slandering" the software. Either use your firewall, or read about nestat > an all of its parameters to check for internet enabled files. Using the > firewall is likely much easier assuming you have a reasonable quality > firewall software. I am not slandering the program at all. It does in > fact have open internet connections that are not disclosed to the user. Fine, show us what you did to see them, and what were the results (FYI, as I wrote in an earlier message, which you conveniently ignored, I said that netstat did not show any /internet/ connections opened by Digikam, only unix sockets. The latter are for communication within my system) _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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In reply to this post by Gilles Caulier-4
Ok I am guessing somehow these responders have not seem my numerous answers
to that question - Check firewall for internet enabled files and netstat with the correct parameter used -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gilles Caulier Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 8:33 AM To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Greetings "netstat -l" will list open sockets over nerwork Gilles Caulier 2013/9/2 Remco Viëtor <[hidden email]>: > On Monday 02 September 2013 03:07:58 [hidden email] wrote: >>(...) I never said anything >> about Backdoors, you and some other person did. Does Digikam also >>have a backdoor? It does not seem like many users here are familiar >>with how > data >> mining and spyware work, they do not require a back door** > > Well, could you at least tell us how you found out that Digikam opens > internet connections (and perhaps to what sites/IP addresses)? > > That would allow us to judge for ourselves what the dangers are, and > how to avoid/remove them. > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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In reply to this post by Samuel Gilbert
In regards to 3, I find it very ironic that you quote Richard M. Stallman. "Digikam has been developed as Free and Open Source Software. The contributors (software developers, bug reporters, testers/users, documentation writers, etc...) have made a very significant software package that adheres to the principles of FOSS. Also, as I wrote regarding your first comment, there you did not provide enough information to allow to conclude that Digikam spies on it's users." What about Ubunto? Ubunto was developed this way as well lol =) _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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In reply to this post by haughtonomous
Ok – I will step out From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Neil Haughton I doubt if you will be censored for having an opinion or expressing a dislike of DK, but you might be for persisting in taking a tiresomely antagonistic approach. As far as locating images is concerned, files and folders are a low level abstraction. DK offers a higher level abstraction so that where they are actually stored in your computer is no longer relevant. I believe you can though, if you wish, show the image in its folder using a file manager from within DK, but you have to rtfm first to discover that, or ask nicely in this mailing list. On Sep 2, 2013 10:40 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
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In reply to this post by Anders Lund
On Monday 02 September 2013 20:50:48 Anders Lund wrote:
> 1. I don't think anyone have problems with your message, rather with your > tone. Being polite and constructive will help. > > 2. Digikam contacting the internet in order to make nice features work, is not > a problem for the rest of us. I can not remember anyone complaing about such > in the 8 years I used digikam. Well, actually I cannot find any sign of Digikam opening an /internet/ connection, but that might be due to the plugins I (don't) use: as I don't publish any of my photos on the internet, plugins for things like flickr and picasa aren't useful to me, and I disabled them. Remco _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Am 02.09.2013 21:03, schrieb [hidden email]:
> Ok – I will step out You do us a big favour. Thanks _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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