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Based on feedback from the office, I had a few questions:

1.) The File menu has one item on it: Quit, while most other apps like Digikam
seem to have the Import and Export sub menu on the File menu.

2.) For the "Cameras" portion of the menus, having two separate menus for it
is confusing. What about having Cameras->and then under it, the cameras that
were detected (or the greyed-out phrase "None Detected"), and at the bottom of
this submenu, an item "Add..."

3.) "Batch" seems like it should either be on the "Tools" menu, or the items
that Batch contains should be on the Tools menu. They are all tools, so is the
difference between batch tools and regular tools enough to keep them on
different menus?

4.) "Remote Gallery setting..." on the Tools menu. Perhaps this should be a
small connection tracker to keep track of which galleries that you have login
access to? As it is, it is confusing as heck, as to what you are "controlling"
and even the fact that "Gallery" is the name of the product, not a generic
term.

5.) I know that I have some weirdness by having two "Edit" menus, but if "Find
Duplicates" is supposed to on one of the Edit menus, isn't that a tool that
should go on the Tools menu?

6.) The Button on the Toolbar labeled "Slide". Why not the word "Slideshow"
which is used throughout the rest of the program?

Thanks,
Brendan

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I should rename this: "List of 3 questions", since 1, 5 and 6 are not valid
anymore, now that I know something is funky with my setup. ;-)

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On Thursday 16 October 2008 23:55:42 Andi Clemens wrote:
> forwarding...
> 4.) "Remote Gallery setting..." on the Tools menu. Perhaps this should be a
> small connection tracker to keep track of which galleries that you have
login
> access to? As it is, it is confusing as heck, as to what you are
"controlling"
> and even the fact that "Gallery" is the name of the product, not a generic
> term.

I agree this is not right name. Anyway, English is not my first language, so I
couldn't decide something better. Perhaps just "Gallery Settings"? or removing
from Tools and inserting into another (settings?) menu, claiming it "Gallery"?


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On Friday 17 October 2008, Andrea Diamantini wrote:

> On Thursday 16 October 2008 23:55:42 Andi Clemens wrote:
> > forwarding...
> > 4.) "Remote Gallery setting..." on the Tools menu. Perhaps this should be
> > a small connection tracker to keep track of which galleries that you have
>
> login
>
> > access to? As it is, it is confusing as heck, as to what you are
>
> "controlling"
>
> > and even the fact that "Gallery" is the name of the product, not a
> > generic term.
>
> I agree this is not right name. Anyway, English is not my first language,
> so I couldn't decide something better. Perhaps just "Gallery Settings"? or
> removing from Tools and inserting into another (settings?) menu, claiming
> it "Gallery"?

How about in the Settings/Options menu with its own panel for the actual
setting up of a connection? Then, the actual connect tool would be under
Export and you could select which Gallery you wanted to connect to? Seems the
most logical layout to me, and I could help with the writing, since, I have 4
Gallery installs, of both version types.
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Dnia Friday 17 of October 2008, Brendan napisał:
> I should rename this: "List of 3 questions", since 1, 5 and 6 are not
> valid anymore, now that I know something is funky with my setup. ;-)

Not only yours. Just joined the club :/

m.

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On Friday 17 October 2008 17:13:06 Brendan wrote:

> On Friday 17 October 2008, Andrea Diamantini wrote:
> > On Thursday 16 October 2008 23:55:42 Andi Clemens wrote:
> > > forwarding...
> > > 4.) "Remote Gallery setting..." on the Tools menu. Perhaps this should
> > > be a small connection tracker to keep track of which galleries that you
> > > have
> >
> > login
> >
> > > access to? As it is, it is confusing as heck, as to what you are
> >
> > "controlling"
> >
> > > and even the fact that "Gallery" is the name of the product, not a
> > > generic term.
> >
> > I agree this is not right name. Anyway, English is not my first language,
> > so I couldn't decide something better. Perhaps just "Gallery Settings"?
> > or removing from Tools and inserting into another (settings?) menu,
> > claiming it "Gallery"?
>
> How about in the Settings/Options menu with its own panel for the actual
> setting up of a connection? Then, the actual connect tool would be under
> Export and you could select which Gallery you wanted to connect to? Seems
> the most logical layout to me, and I could help with the writing, since, I
> have 4 Gallery installs, of both version types.

With commit r872729 I removed "Gallery Settings" from Tools menu and inserted
as option in "Gallery Export" from export menu. Anyway at 1st use, it will be
launched 1st.

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This is not working, it always tell me my settings are wrong and quits the
plugin. I can not change anything and I'm not able to click on the settings
button either.

Andi

On Saturday 18 October 2008 02:09:56 Andrea Diamantini wrote:

> On Friday 17 October 2008 17:13:06 Brendan wrote:
> > On Friday 17 October 2008, Andrea Diamantini wrote:
> > > On Thursday 16 October 2008 23:55:42 Andi Clemens wrote:
> > > > forwarding...
> > > > 4.) "Remote Gallery setting..." on the Tools menu. Perhaps this
> > > > should be a small connection tracker to keep track of which galleries
> > > > that you have
> > >
> > > login
> > >
> > > > access to? As it is, it is confusing as heck, as to what you are
> > >
> > > "controlling"
> > >
> > > > and even the fact that "Gallery" is the name of the product, not a
> > > > generic term.
> > >
> > > I agree this is not right name. Anyway, English is not my first
> > > language, so I couldn't decide something better. Perhaps just "Gallery
> > > Settings"? or removing from Tools and inserting into another
> > > (settings?) menu, claiming it "Gallery"?
> >
> > How about in the Settings/Options menu with its own panel for the actual
> > setting up of a connection? Then, the actual connect tool would be under
> > Export and you could select which Gallery you wanted to connect to? Seems
> > the most logical layout to me, and I could help with the writing, since,
> > I have 4 Gallery installs, of both version types.
>
> With commit r872729 I removed "Gallery Settings" from Tools menu and
> inserted as option in "Gallery Export" from export menu. Anyway at 1st use,
> it will be launched 1st.

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2008/10/18 Andrea Diamantini <[hidden email]>

On Friday 17 October 2008 17:13:06 Brendan wrote:
> On Friday 17 October 2008, Andrea Diamantini wrote:
> > On Thursday 16 October 2008 23:55:42 Andi Clemens wrote:
> > > forwarding...
> > > 4.) "Remote Gallery setting..." on the Tools menu. Perhaps this should
> > > be a small connection tracker to keep track of which galleries that you
> > > have
> >
> > login
> >
> > > access to? As it is, it is confusing as heck, as to what you are
> >
> > "controlling"
> >
> > > and even the fact that "Gallery" is the name of the product, not a
> > > generic term.
> >
> > I agree this is not right name. Anyway, English is not my first language,
> > so I couldn't decide something better. Perhaps just "Gallery Settings"?
> > or removing from Tools and inserting into another (settings?) menu,
> > claiming it "Gallery"?
>
> How about in the Settings/Options menu with its own panel for the actual
> setting up of a connection? Then, the actual connect tool would be under
> Export and you could select which Gallery you wanted to connect to? Seems
> the most logical layout to me, and I could help with the writing, since, I
> have 4 Gallery installs, of both version types.

With commit r872729 I removed "Gallery Settings" from Tools menu and inserted
as option in "Gallery Export" from export menu. Anyway at 1st use, it will be
launched 1st.

This way is better than to add a new digiKam menu entry to setup remote gallery.

Gilles

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On Friday 17 October 2008, Andi Clemens wrote:
> This is not working, it always tell me my settings are wrong and quits the
> plugin. I can not change anything and I'm not able to click on the settings
> button either.

Same here. Looks like a good start though.
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On Saturday 18 October 2008 02:25:26 Andi Clemens wrote:
> This is not working, it always tell me my settings are wrong and quits the
> plugin. I can not change anything and I'm not able to click on the settings
> button either.
>
> Andi

So, if settings "seem" wrong, perhaps the best thing to do is letting users to
adjust them.. ;)

PS: I'll try to fix it now..
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[Colin Guthrie-6]

Gilles Caulier wrote:
> This way is better than to add a new digiKam menu entry to setup remote
> gallery.

I hope that after the sprint we'll all come up with some ideas to
combine "Gallery" export with all the others exporters in some kind of
common dialog and have all your "accounts" listed under the same UI....

Who knows if this is possible, but that's where I'd personally like to
see it!

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On Saturday 18 October 2008 11:21:42 Colin Guthrie wrote:

> Gilles Caulier wrote:
> > This way is better than to add a new digiKam menu entry to setup remote
> > gallery.
>
> I hope that after the sprint we'll all come up with some ideas to
> combine "Gallery" export with all the others exporters in some kind of
> common dialog and have all your "accounts" listed under the same UI....
>
> Who knows if this is possible, but that's where I'd personally like to
> see it!
>
> Col

I'd like it, too. I think also that (your's?) managing account iface in
previuos gallery version was perfect for that task.
unfortunately, I had problems in porting it, so I decided to remove it for the
moment and work just on "gallery export" feature.
Moreover I saw there is a huge amount of code in the "export plugins"
unusefully duplicated (I think at least 80%..). The real differences are just
in the *talker classes implementation.
Last (but not least), Gilles's idea about "new" export plugin.

Lots of things to work on.. ;)
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On Saturday 18 October 2008 09:10:18 Brendan wrote:

> On Friday 17 October 2008, Andi Clemens wrote:
> > This is not working, it always tell me my settings are wrong and quits
> > the plugin. I can not change anything and I'm not able to click on the
> > settings button either.
>
> Same here. Looks like a good start though.
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Hope this morning fix could work. I personally don't like Brendan's idea of
having a "connect" button. This should be an automatic task. You choose
"gallery export", so you need to connect to your remote Gallery.
Anyway, we can discuss about it. This is just my idea.

Unfortunately, I'm away for a couple of days in this weekend. In a place
without electric light. And of course no internet connection.
I'll see your replies on Monday.

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