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Digikam video support

Mike Meiser
So,

With Flickr offering video support and it being the first mainstream
media posting site to support both video and photo... and also it
being fairly well integrated with digikam.  And also... with a simple
video editor being a big request on Ubuntu Brainstorms (is there some
sort of KDE brainstorms?)

http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/131/

...I have to ask what's the current status of video support in
Digikam, and what are the future plans?

I tried googling on the topic and all I found was that there is basic
support for videos in digikam, but I couldn't even find the specs as
to what formats are supported, nor what playback engine it uses.

Is there any plan to extend the flickr support to include video yet...
or should I be inquiring on a different mailing list about that?

Finally, the really big question. Are there any plans for basic video
editing in Digikam?

I don't think video editing is essential, in fact digikam could just
launch annother video editing application to edit clips, but ideally
there would be some extremely simple implimentation within digikam.
Most people wouldn't need a lot, most likely just the ability to cut
or splice clips, add subtitles/titling and music, and some sort of
export to some basic video formats.

Just curious.

Thanks,

-Mike
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Re: Digikam video support

jdd@dodin.org
Mike Meiser a écrit :

> I don't think video editing is essential, in fact digikam could just
> launch annother video editing application to edit clips

on this kind, avidemux seems to be the better one. Have even a qt
interface (additionnaly to the gtk one - buggy, but this can improve)

jdd

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Re: Digikam video support

Gilles Caulier-4
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2008/4/11, Mike Meiser <[hidden email]>:

> So,
>
>  With Flickr offering video support and it being the first mainstream
>  media posting site to support both video and photo... and also it
>  being fairly well integrated with digikam.  And also... with a simple
>  video editor being a big request on Ubuntu Brainstorms (is there some
>  sort of KDE brainstorms?)
>
>  http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/131/
>
>  ...I have to ask what's the current status of video support in
>  Digikam, and what are the future plans?

digiKam core do no have video codec and player, but delegate all to
KDE kpart video player. With KDE3, the best one is Kaffeine which use
Xine in background. With KDE4, we use now Phonon (Xine too)

So, all formats supported by Xine can be displayed in digiKam...

>
>  I tried googling on the topic and all I found was that there is basic
>  support for videos in digikam, but I couldn't even find the specs as
>  to what formats are supported, nor what playback engine it uses.
>
>  Is there any plan to extend the flickr support to include video yet...
>  or should I be inquiring on a different mailing list about that?

This is something to do for FlickrExport kipi-plugin maintener. Thi
sis not coded in digiKAm core. The interface between digiKam and this
plugin is already ready to handle video files. So only the plugin need
to be fixed to play with Flickr video management.

>
>  Finally, the really big question. Are there any plans for basic video
>  editing in Digikam?

No, and never. Use KDenLive which is a promise application.

>
>  I don't think video editing is essential, in fact digikam could just
>  launch annother video editing application to edit clips, but ideally
>  there would be some extremely simple implimentation within digikam.

No its'nt. I know very well the problem, i have played with KDenLive
team in the pass.

>  Most people wouldn't need a lot, most likely just the ability to cut
>  or splice clips, add subtitles/titling and music, and some sort of
>  export to some basic video formats.
>
>  Just curious.
>

Best

Gilles Caulier

>  Thanks,
>
>  -Mike
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Re: Digikam video support

jdd@dodin.org
Gilles Caulier a écrit :

> No its'nt. I know very well the problem, i have played with KDenLive
> team in the pass.

I have mixed feeling about the Kdenlive recent evolution. I see little
debugging versus more functions (adding HD support when the product is
so unstable, why?) - used to be extremely fast and now is often so
slow as nearly unusable. Hope this will improve.

any way, there is a real need for a video editing soft, maybe a
kdenlive_simplified, with limited tracks, diapos view, basic cut and
paste, a little like shofoto versus GIMP :-)

not to say Digikam Have anything to do with it...

however, photo cameras videos are often very special versus camcorder
ones and here there may be a digikam entry

jdd


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Re: Digikam video support

Mike Meiser
So, let me get this straight Avidmux, Kaffeine, Kdenlive are what you
all recommend keeping an eye on for basic video editing.

Just to be clear though Digikam is dedicated to supporting the
management and basic playback of video files including copying them
off the camera right?

I completely understand and even agree with your position on video
editing, but there's still definitely a need for Digikam to handle all
the media that comes off a digitial camera.  Even if it's an audio
only file.

So to clarify, what video formats does Digikam support?

-Mike

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:39 AM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Gilles Caulier a écrit :
>
>
>  > No its'nt. I know very well the problem, i have played with KDenLive
>  > team in the pass.
>
>  I have mixed feeling about the Kdenlive recent evolution. I see little
>  debugging versus more functions (adding HD support when the product is
>  so unstable, why?) - used to be extremely fast and now is often so
>  slow as nearly unusable. Hope this will improve.
>
>  any way, there is a real need for a video editing soft, maybe a
>  kdenlive_simplified, with limited tracks, diapos view, basic cut and
>  paste, a little like shofoto versus GIMP :-)
>
>  not to say Digikam Have anything to do with it...
>
>  however, photo cameras videos are often very special versus camcorder
>  ones and here there may be a digikam entry
>
>
>  jdd
>
>
>  --
>  http://www.dodin.net
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Re: Digikam video support

Mike Meiser
Oh, and note to sell, I should try out video uploading with the
Digikam Flickr plugin and find the mailing list or developer for that
and give them some feedback

Peace,

-Mike
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On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Mike Meiser
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> So, let me get this straight Avidmux, Kaffeine, Kdenlive are what you
>  all recommend keeping an eye on for basic video editing.
>
>  Just to be clear though Digikam is dedicated to supporting the
>  management and basic playback of video files including copying them
>  off the camera right?
>
>  I completely understand and even agree with your position on video
>  editing, but there's still definitely a need for Digikam to handle all
>  the media that comes off a digitial camera.  Even if it's an audio
>  only file.
>
>  So to clarify, what video formats does Digikam support?
>
>  -Mike
>
>
>
>  On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:39 AM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  > Gilles Caulier a écrit :
>  >
>  >
>  >  > No its'nt. I know very well the problem, i have played with KDenLive
>  >  > team in the pass.
>  >
>  >  I have mixed feeling about the Kdenlive recent evolution. I see little
>  >  debugging versus more functions (adding HD support when the product is
>  >  so unstable, why?) - used to be extremely fast and now is often so
>  >  slow as nearly unusable. Hope this will improve.
>  >
>  >  any way, there is a real need for a video editing soft, maybe a
>  >  kdenlive_simplified, with limited tracks, diapos view, basic cut and
>  >  paste, a little like shofoto versus GIMP :-)
>  >
>  >  not to say Digikam Have anything to do with it...
>  >
>  >  however, photo cameras videos are often very special versus camcorder
>  >  ones and here there may be a digikam entry
>  >
>  >
>  >  jdd
>  >
>  >
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>  >  http://www.clairedodin.com/
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Re: Digikam video support

Gilles Caulier-4
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2008/4/14, Mike Meiser <[hidden email]>:

> So, let me get this straight Avidmux, Kaffeine, Kdenlive are what you
>  all recommend keeping an eye on for basic video editing.
>
>  Just to be clear though Digikam is dedicated to supporting the
>  management and basic playback of video files including copying them
>  off the camera right?
>
>  I completely understand and even agree with your position on video
>  editing, but there's still definitely a need for Digikam to handle all
>  the media that comes off a digitial camera.  Even if it's an audio
>  only file.
>
>  So to clarify, what video formats does Digikam support?

well, like digiKam use Xine or Mplayer Kpart components, all file
formats supportted by Xine or Mplayer will be handle by digiKam. Of
course right Xine or Mplayer codecs must be installed on your
computer.

Best

Gilles Caulier

>
>
>  -Mike
>
>
>  On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:39 AM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  > Gilles Caulier a écrit :
>  >
>  >
>  >  > No its'nt. I know very well the problem, i have played with KDenLive
>  >  > team in the pass.
>  >
>  >  I have mixed feeling about the Kdenlive recent evolution. I see little
>  >  debugging versus more functions (adding HD support when the product is
>  >  so unstable, why?) - used to be extremely fast and now is often so
>  >  slow as nearly unusable. Hope this will improve.
>  >
>  >  any way, there is a real need for a video editing soft, maybe a
>  >  kdenlive_simplified, with limited tracks, diapos view, basic cut and
>  >  paste, a little like shofoto versus GIMP :-)
>  >
>  >  not to say Digikam Have anything to do with it...
>  >
>  >  however, photo cameras videos are often very special versus camcorder
>  >  ones and here there may be a digikam entry
>  >
>  >
>  >  jdd
>  >
>  >
>  >  --
>  >  http://www.dodin.net
>  >  http://clairedodin.voices.com/
>  >  http://www.clairedodin.com/
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Re: Digikam video support

Mike Meiser
Thanks Giles, that clarifies it for me pretty well.

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:46 AM, Gilles Caulier
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> 2008/4/14, Mike Meiser <[hidden email]>:
>
> > So, let me get this straight Avidmux, Kaffeine, Kdenlive are what you
>  >  all recommend keeping an eye on for basic video editing.
>  >
>  >  Just to be clear though Digikam is dedicated to supporting the
>  >  management and basic playback of video files including copying them
>  >  off the camera right?
>  >
>  >  I completely understand and even agree with your position on video
>  >  editing, but there's still definitely a need for Digikam to handle all
>  >  the media that comes off a digitial camera.  Even if it's an audio
>  >  only file.
>  >
>  >  So to clarify, what video formats does Digikam support?
>
>  well, like digiKam use Xine or Mplayer Kpart components, all file
>  formats supportted by Xine or Mplayer will be handle by digiKam. Of
>  course right Xine or Mplayer codecs must be installed on your
>  computer.
>
>  Best
>
>  Gilles Caulier
>
>
>
>  >
>  >
>  >  -Mike
>  >
>  >
>  >  On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:39 AM, jdd <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  >  > Gilles Caulier a écrit :
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  > No its'nt. I know very well the problem, i have played with KDenLive
>  >  >  > team in the pass.
>  >  >
>  >  >  I have mixed feeling about the Kdenlive recent evolution. I see little
>  >  >  debugging versus more functions (adding HD support when the product is
>  >  >  so unstable, why?) - used to be extremely fast and now is often so
>  >  >  slow as nearly unusable. Hope this will improve.
>  >  >
>  >  >  any way, there is a real need for a video editing soft, maybe a
>  >  >  kdenlive_simplified, with limited tracks, diapos view, basic cut and
>  >  >  paste, a little like shofoto versus GIMP :-)
>  >  >
>  >  >  not to say Digikam Have anything to do with it...
>  >  >
>  >  >  however, photo cameras videos are often very special versus camcorder
>  >  >  ones and here there may be a digikam entry
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  jdd
>  >  >
>  >  >
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>  >  >  http://claire.dodin.net/
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