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DK 2.8.0 / Piicasa crashes during eport

cool.chris65
Hello,

I think I found a litle Problem:

I tried to export some Pics from DK to Picasa into an existing album. When I
mark a picture, which is already existing in the targetalbum, DK will crash,
but if I mark only  new pics, it works as expected.

In DK 2.7.0 there was no problem with picasa-export and dublettes.

My System: (K)Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with actual patches and fixes

Greets, Christoph
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Puzzling, and troubling, issue with empty folders

Guy Stalnaker
All,

About a year ago I suffered a catastrophic drive issue. I was able to
recover images from the drive with appropriate tools. Glad to have
images recovered, yes, but the recovery application named the recovered
imaged with a multi-digit name. As such, they were relatively useless.
Had no idea what the images were, when they were from, etc.

Using exiftool I was able to rename the files and at the same time
organize them using the exif data they contain.  Once I was done with
the renaming, I had multiple folders organized by year/month/day, with
images named using this format: DSCN_YYYYMMDDTHHMMSS.ext.

I was able to use Digikam to find and eliminate duplicates, of which
there were hundreds, as well as thumbnails.

I've been very happy with Digikam, but recently I've noticed something
very puzzling. Given the way the renaming process works (I use Linux and
I have a shell script that uses the commandline applications, exiftool
and install, to do the renaming) I know, without doubt, that if there is
a folder in my collection in the year/month hierarchy for any day in any
month in any year, that the folder can only exist because the script,
well exiftool in the script, **read data from an existing image** and
used that data to create, with the install program, the folder the image
was then put into by the install application.

But now, I have discovered over the past several days while reviewing
images for a contest submission that I have over 50 zero-file folders in
my collection. I am very troubled by this. I have deleted practically no
image unless I knew they were duplicate images (in fact, I used Digikam
itself to identify the duplicates and I reviewed them visually and
deleted duplicates only when I could see in Digikam the two images
side-by-side). I have nearly seven good years worth of images. And
suddenly I see holes in my collection and I have no way of knowing just
how significant the holes may be. The year 2008 does not count in the
matter as I know I lost many of them several years ago (failed CD
backup). But having 50+ folders with zero files in them makes me very
worried.

Is Digikam somehow involved? Digikam is the only application I use to
manage my collection since I stopped using Picasa a year ago. I still
use my commandline tools, in the script, to move images from camera SD
cards to my collection where Digikam has, thus far, had no problem
finding them. I have over 22000 images. Is this a problem?

Here is what I see:
2012 has 1 empty folder
2011 has 2 empby folders
2010 had 4 empty folders
2009 has 17 empty folders!
2008 has 5 emtpy folders
2007 has 1 empty folder
2006 has 7 empty folders
2005 has 8 empty folders
2004 has 3 of 4 total empty
2003 has 5 empty folders

So, that's the report. What can I do? Is there any record kept by
Digikam of its activities I can check? Has anyone else experienced
sudden unusual mysterious vanishments? I'm worried.

Thanks for any help anyone can give.

--
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to set against hatred." (paraphrased) Ian McEwan

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Re: Puzzling, and troubling, issue with empty folders

Peter Albrecht
Hi Guy,

I've been using DigiKam for 3 years now and never
experienced any unintentional disappearing fotos.

For backup, I use "Unison File Synchronizer"
(http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/), which lists
every changed file, before copiing it to the backup storage.

Unfortunately it does not tell, what exactly changed. Great
would be something like:
   Change: myfile.jpg (added Tag: "Family")

BTW: Does somebody else know a free tool, which could do this?

Maybe using unison (or a similar backup tool), you could
detect disappearing fotos in the future.

Regards,
        Peter Albrecht

On 17.08.2012 07:04, Guy Stalnaker wrote:

> All,
>
> About a year ago I suffered a catastrophic drive issue. I
> was able to recover images from the drive with appropriate
> tools. Glad to have images recovered, yes, but the recovery
> application named the recovered imaged with a multi-digit
> name. As such, they were relatively useless. Had no idea
> what the images were, when they were from, etc.
>
> Using exiftool I was able to rename the files and at the
> same time organize them using the exif data they contain.
> Once I was done with the renaming, I had multiple folders
> organized by year/month/day, with images named using this
> format: DSCN_YYYYMMDDTHHMMSS.ext.
>
> I was able to use Digikam to find and eliminate duplicates,
> of which there were hundreds, as well as thumbnails.
>
> I've been very happy with Digikam, but recently I've noticed
> something very puzzling. Given the way the renaming process
> works (I use Linux and I have a shell script that uses the
> commandline applications, exiftool and install, to do the
> renaming) I know, without doubt, that if there is a folder
> in my collection in the year/month hierarchy for any day in
> any month in any year, that the folder can only exist
> because the script, well exiftool in the script, **read data
> from an existing image** and used that data to create, with
> the install program, the folder the image was then put into
> by the install application.
>
> But now, I have discovered over the past several days while
> reviewing images for a contest submission that I have over
> 50 zero-file folders in my collection. I am very troubled by
> this. I have deleted practically no image unless I knew they
> were duplicate images (in fact, I used Digikam itself to
> identify the duplicates and I reviewed them visually and
> deleted duplicates only when I could see in Digikam the two
> images side-by-side). I have nearly seven good years worth
> of images. And suddenly I see holes in my collection and I
> have no way of knowing just how significant the holes may
> be. The year 2008 does not count in the matter as I know I
> lost many of them several years ago (failed CD backup). But
> having 50+ folders with zero files in them makes me very
> worried.
>
> Is Digikam somehow involved? Digikam is the only application
> I use to manage my collection since I stopped using Picasa a
> year ago. I still use my commandline tools, in the script,
> to move images from camera SD cards to my collection where
> Digikam has, thus far, had no problem finding them. I have
> over 22000 images. Is this a problem?
>
> Here is what I see:
> 2012 has 1 empty folder
> 2011 has 2 empby folders
> 2010 had 4 empty folders
> 2009 has 17 empty folders!
> 2008 has 5 emtpy folders
> 2007 has 1 empty folder
> 2006 has 7 empty folders
> 2005 has 8 empty folders
> 2004 has 3 of 4 total empty
> 2003 has 5 empty folders
>
> So, that's the report. What can I do? Is there any record
> kept by Digikam of its activities I can check? Has anyone
> else experienced sudden unusual mysterious vanishments? I'm
> worried.
>
> Thanks for any help anyone can give.
>
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Re: Puzzling, and troubling, issue with empty folders

Simon Cropper-3
On 17/08/12 19:11, Peter Albrecht wrote:

> Hi Guy,
>
> I've been using DigiKam for 3 years now and never
> experienced any unintentional disappearing fotos.
>
> For backup, I use "Unison File Synchronizer"
> (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/), which lists
> every changed file, before copiing it to the backup storage.
>
> Unfortunately it does not tell, what exactly changed. Great
> would be something like:
>     Change: myfile.jpg (added Tag: "Family")
>
> BTW: Does somebody else know a free tool, which could do this?
>
> Maybe using unison (or a similar backup tool), you could
> detect disappearing fotos in the future.
>
> Regards,
> Peter Albrecht
>
> On 17.08.2012 07:04, Guy Stalnaker wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> About a year ago I suffered a catastrophic drive issue. I
>> was able to recover images from the drive with appropriate
>> tools. Glad to have images recovered, yes, but the recovery
>> application named the recovered imaged with a multi-digit
>> name. As such, they were relatively useless. Had no idea
>> what the images were, when they were from, etc.
>>
>> Using exiftool I was able to rename the files and at the
>> same time organize them using the exif data they contain.
>> Once I was done with the renaming, I had multiple folders
>> organized by year/month/day, with images named using this
>> format: DSCN_YYYYMMDDTHHMMSS.ext.
>>
>> I was able to use Digikam to find and eliminate duplicates,
>> of which there were hundreds, as well as thumbnails.
>>
>> I've been very happy with Digikam, but recently I've noticed
>> something very puzzling. Given the way the renaming process
>> works (I use Linux and I have a shell script that uses the
>> commandline applications, exiftool and install, to do the
>> renaming) I know, without doubt, that if there is a folder
>> in my collection in the year/month hierarchy for any day in
>> any month in any year, that the folder can only exist
>> because the script, well exiftool in the script, **read data
>> from an existing image** and used that data to create, with
>> the install program, the folder the image was then put into
>> by the install application.
>>
>> But now, I have discovered over the past several days while
>> reviewing images for a contest submission that I have over
>> 50 zero-file folders in my collection. I am very troubled by
>> this. I have deleted practically no image unless I knew they
>> were duplicate images (in fact, I used Digikam itself to
>> identify the duplicates and I reviewed them visually and
>> deleted duplicates only when I could see in Digikam the two
>> images side-by-side). I have nearly seven good years worth
>> of images. And suddenly I see holes in my collection and I
>> have no way of knowing just how significant the holes may
>> be. The year 2008 does not count in the matter as I know I
>> lost many of them several years ago (failed CD backup). But
>> having 50+ folders with zero files in them makes me very
>> worried.
>>
>> Is Digikam somehow involved? Digikam is the only application
>> I use to manage my collection since I stopped using Picasa a
>> year ago. I still use my commandline tools, in the script,
>> to move images from camera SD cards to my collection where
>> Digikam has, thus far, had no problem finding them. I have
>> over 22000 images. Is this a problem?
>>
>> Here is what I see:
>> 2012 has 1 empty folder
>> 2011 has 2 empby folders
>> 2010 had 4 empty folders
>> 2009 has 17 empty folders!
>> 2008 has 5 emtpy folders
>> 2007 has 1 empty folder
>> 2006 has 7 empty folders
>> 2005 has 8 empty folders
>> 2004 has 3 of 4 total empty
>> 2003 has 5 empty folders
>>
>> So, that's the report. What can I do? Is there any record
>> kept by Digikam of its activities I can check? Has anyone
>> else experienced sudden unusual mysterious vanishments? I'm
>> worried.
>>
>> Thanks for any help anyone can give.
>>
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Peter,

Metadata can be extracted using exiftools, so either with python or bash
you should be able to filter out changes, as long as you kept a version
of the extracted metadata at the last backup.

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Re: Puzzling, and troubling, issue with empty folders

Andrew Goodbody
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On 17/08/12 06:04, Guy Stalnaker wrote:
> So, that's the report. What can I do? Is there any record kept by
> Digikam of its activities I can check? Has anyone else experienced
> sudden unusual mysterious vanishments? I'm worried.
>
> Thanks for any help anyone can give.
>

Just a few observations.

You suffered a catastrophic drive failure yet it sounds like you are not
keeping backups of your data. The next time you have a drive failure,
and it will happen, you may not be able to recover anything. You need to
start backing up your data. You should have one copy off line in a
separate location. The maxim is that if you don't have your data backed
up in two different ways then you don't have your data.

If you had a backup, then the simple thing to do is to compare the files
you have live on line with the backup.

There are too many unknowns to be able to say why those directories are
empty. My guess would be as a result of the de-duplication you did.

No, digikam does not randomly delete files. Other people would have
noticed, especially those who keep backups.

Andrew
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Re: Puzzling, and troubling, issue with empty folders

Peter Albrecht
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On 17.08.2012 17:22, Simon Cropper wrote:

> On 17/08/12 19:11, Peter Albrecht wrote:
>> For backup, I use "Unison File Synchronizer"
>> (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/), which lists
>> every changed file, before copiing it to the backup storage.
>>
>> Unfortunately it does not tell, what exactly changed. Great
>> would be something like:
>>     Change: myfile.jpg (added Tag: "Family")
>>
>> BTW: Does somebody else know a free tool, which could do
>> this?

> Metadata can be extracted using exiftools, so either with
> python or bash you should be able to filter out changes, as
> long as you kept a version of the extracted metadata at the
> last backup.

Thanks for the answer, Simon. But I was looking for a
"ready-to-use" programm (integrated in the backup tool). ;)

Regards,
        Peter
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Re: DK 2.8.0 crashes during eport or copy

cool.chris65
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Hey,

yesterday I just wanted to reorganise some folders and pics, and DK
freezes alltime when the destination folder was not empty and there was
a file-nameconflict. Normaly (DK 2.7.0) there should appear the
overwrite/renaming-dialog, but in this case (DK 2.8.0) just DK freeze
and I have to kill it ... A filecopy of the same foldes and files in
krusader or filemanager works as expected

So at least it seems to be a similar error like the picasa-export-error
desciped before?

Greets, Christoph

Am 14.08.2012 14:44, schrieb cool.chris65:

> Hello,
>
> I think I found a litle Problem:
>
> I tried to export some Pics from DK to Picasa into an existing album. When I
> mark a picture, which is already existing in the targetalbum, DK will crash,
> but if I mark only  new pics, it works as expected.
>
> In DK 2.7.0 there was no problem with picasa-export and dublettes.
>
> My System: (K)Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with actual patches and fixes
>
> Greets, Christoph
> _______________________________________________
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