Change for widgets to save space and simpler UI?
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Now a while Krita team created a custom widget for Krita to save space and make easier pen use for the application UI. Same functionality is coming to GIMP 2.8 (now on development version 2.7) what is littlebit different by function. Depending does user drag upper or lower part of the slider widget.
Should digiKam take same direction as Krita has? Here is example of same widget lenght what gives about 15% space saving. Less buttons, but still offering same information and possibility to click and type wanted number.
It has benefits for space and easy dragging. But it has bad side as well, what is color schema what can be very bright when having multiple colored widgets on sidepanel. Or that there is no scale metering for steps (can be good and bad).
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Re: Change for widgets to save space and simpler UI?
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I like this widget, reminds me of the UI in some of the Adobe Create Suite
applications. Andi On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 22:33:49 +0200, Paristo <[hidden email]> wrote: > Now a while Krita team created a custom widget for Krita to save space > and > make easier pen use for the application UI. > Same functionality is coming to GIMP 2.8 (now on development version 2.7) > what is littlebit different by function. Depending does user drag upper > or > lower part of the slider widget. > > Should digiKam take same direction as Krita has? > > Here is example of same widget lenght what gives about 15% space saving. > Less buttons, but still offering same information and possibility to > click > and type wanted number. > > http://saukonpaa.com/projects/mockups/digikam_sidepanel_widget.png > > It has benefits for space and easy dragging. But it has bad side as well, > what is color schema what can be very bright when having multiple colored > widgets on sidepanel. Or that there is no scale metering for steps (can > be > good and bad). -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ _______________________________________________ Digikam-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-devel |
Re: Change for widgets to save space and simpler UI?
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Do you mean that slider have been replaced in new widget by a
progress bar ? Sound like interesting and easy to implement... I'm waiting other comments... Gilles Caulier 2011/9/6 Paristo <[hidden email]>: > > Now a while Krita team created a custom widget for Krita to save space and > make easier pen use for the application UI. > Same functionality is coming to GIMP 2.8 (now on development version 2.7) > what is littlebit different by function. Depending does user drag upper or > lower part of the slider widget. > Should digiKam take same direction as Krita has? > Here is example of same widget lenght what gives about 15% space saving. > Less buttons, but still offering same information and possibility to click > and type wanted number. > http://saukonpaa.com/projects/mockups/digikam_sidepanel_widget.png > It has benefits for space and easy dragging. But it has bad side as well, > what is color schema what can be very bright when having multiple colored > widgets on sidepanel. Or that there is no scale metering for steps (can be > good and bad). > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-devel mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-devel > > Digikam-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-devel |
Re: Change for widgets to save space and simpler UI?
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Andi,
If something must be done for digiKam, it's in libkdcraw where similar widget exist, but of course based on slider version (KIntNumInput and KDoubleNumInput class): https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdegraphics/libs/libkdcraw/repository/revisions/master/entry/libkdcraw/rnuminput.cpp#L65 https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdegraphics/libs/libkdcraw/repository/revisions/master/entry/libkdcraw/rnuminput.cpp#L164 Changing these widget here will patch digiKam and kipi-plugins at the same time. Some adjustments must be done i think in others place to use these widgets everywhere. Gilles Caulier 2011/9/6 Andi Clemens <[hidden email]>: > I like this widget, reminds me of the UI in some of the Adobe Create Suite > applications. > > Andi > > On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 22:33:49 +0200, Paristo <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Now a while Krita team created a custom widget for Krita to save space and >> make easier pen use for the application UI. >> Same functionality is coming to GIMP 2.8 (now on development version 2.7) >> what is littlebit different by function. Depending does user drag upper or >> lower part of the slider widget. >> >> Should digiKam take same direction as Krita has? >> >> Here is example of same widget lenght what gives about 15% space saving. >> Less buttons, but still offering same information and possibility to click >> and type wanted number. >> >> http://saukonpaa.com/projects/mockups/digikam_sidepanel_widget.png >> >> It has benefits for space and easy dragging. But it has bad side as well, >> what is color schema what can be very bright when having multiple colored >> widgets on sidepanel. Or that there is no scale metering for steps (can be >> good and bad). > > > -- > Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-devel mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-devel > Digikam-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-devel |
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On 6 September 2011 23:44, Andi Clemens <[hidden email]> wrote:
It is similar. There are few visual bad sides like if person have such color schema that is very bright, then sidepanel can be such, but it should not be problem as we allow custom color schema on digikam, so user can easily edit them on SystemSettings and then just choose such. But this widget would more need same scaling for every widget. Now we have scales 0.10-3.0 0.0-2.0 0-5 0-100 -100-100 0.0-10.0 And so on. I would say, technically they might be correct. But visually and logically for person who does not know algorithms and scales of widgets, it is a mess. Is there a change to make every widget to have same scale and steps? Like now example the RAW import tool and Post Processing tab of it: http://saukonpaa.com/projects/mockups/digikam_sidepanel_widget_current_state.png On that, Brightness and Contrast looks good. They are on scale -100-100 And visually those looks good when scale is 10 on every step. But when looking Exposure and Gamma, we have lines for steps too much and the panel comes cluttered. Even if not adding that progress bar style for widgets, having a same visual widget levels would be huge improvement. But is it technically possible or is it too huge compromise or even defect for features? There are some settings where default is 2 from range 0-5. So having that to scale up to same size is a problem. But stepping does not need to be same, as we can cut 100 scale to smaller sizes like 5 (every step is 20%). Default coult be kept as it is (2). _______________________________________________ Digikam-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-devel |
Re: Change for widgets to save space and simpler UI?
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I just tested last krita interface.
The slider which use progress bar as adjustment widget is optimum to preserve space in GUI. It sound like functionnal and suitable as well. I think it's a good way to go. The implementation is in krita at this place : https://projects.kde.org/projects/calligra/repository/revisions/master/entry/krita/ui/widgets/kis_slider_spin_box.h Please report this wish in bugzilla... Best Gilles Caulier 2011/9/20 Paristo <[hidden email]>: > > >> On 6 September 2011 23:44, Andi Clemens <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >> I like this widget, reminds me of the UI in some of the Adobe Create >> Suite applications. >> Andi > > It is similar. > There are few visual bad sides like if person have such color schema that is > very bright, then sidepanel can be such, but it should not be problem as we > allow custom color schema on digikam, so user can easily edit them on > SystemSettings and then just choose such. > But this widget would more need same scaling for every widget. Now we have > scales > 0.10-3.0 > 0.0-2.0 > 0-5 > 0-100 > -100-100 > 0.0-10.0 > And so on. > I would say, technically they might be correct. > But visually and logically for person who does not know algorithms and > scales of widgets, it is a mess. > Is there a change to make every widget to have same scale and steps? > Like now example the RAW import tool and Post Processing tab of > it: http://saukonpaa.com/projects/mockups/digikam_sidepanel_widget_current_state.png > On that, Brightness and Contrast looks good. They are on scale -100-100 > And visually those looks good when scale is 10 on every step. > But when looking Exposure and Gamma, we have lines for steps too much and > the panel comes cluttered. > Even if not adding that progress bar style for widgets, having a same visual > widget levels would be huge improvement. > But is it technically possible or is it too huge compromise or even defect > for features? > There are some settings where default is 2 from range 0-5. So having that to > scale up to same size is a problem. But stepping does not need to be same, > as we can cut 100 scale to smaller sizes like 5 (every step is 20%). Default > coult be kept as it is (2). > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-devel mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-devel > > Digikam-devel mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-devel |
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