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Building digikam on windows

David Kerber
I'm starting on building digikam on windows xp using the tutorial on the
digikam site that Gilles pointed out, and have already run into a
difference:  The current kde on windows installation (4.4.4) does not
have any packages called automoc listed anywhere in it.  Is this package
still needed for the digiKam build?

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Re: Building digikam on windows

pshute
This is exactly the sort of problem I ran into when I tried it. I assume it's to do with changes to what's included in the distribution, what's been renamed, and sometimes what's been forgotten. I spent days trying all sorts of ways, and finally joined the kde-windows list to get help.

Here's the thread, hope it helps, but I suspect you'll still have problems:
http://old.nabble.com/Compiling-digiKam-td27193671.html

Given that it doesn't seem possible to get updates into the Windows KDE distribution within a reasonable amount of time, perhaps a better distribution strategy is to work at keeping the download and compilation instructions current. I don't know if the instructions will then end up only working for people installing for the first time, i.e. whether preloaded stuff affects the procedure.

Be warned that a first time compilation takes a lot of download time, a lot of diskspace, and a lot of compilation time. According to that thread, it downloaded maybe 3GB, which expanded out to 8GB during compilation, and it all took maybe 20 hours. It's not a job to be started without adequate preparation.

Peter Shute

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Kerber [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 10:09 AM
> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional
> with the power of open source
> Subject: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows
>
> I'm starting on building digikam on windows xp using the
> tutorial on the digikam site that Gilles pointed out, and
> have already run into a
> difference:  The current kde on windows installation (4.4.4)
> does not have any packages called automoc listed anywhere in
> it.  Is this package still needed for the digiKam build?
>
> d
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Re: Building digikam on windows

JUANGAL@iies.es
windows users, including me, are dummies in compilation, for the most. I had programmed and compiled in fortran, basic and a little in Pascal, but , since windows 95 appeared, I lost ability for it.

Would be nice compile and distribute digikam for windows users.

juangal

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Fecha: 26/08/2010 2:26
Para: "digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source"<[hidden email]>
Asunto: Re: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows

This is exactly the sort of problem I ran into when I tried it. I assume it's to do with changes to what's included in the distribution, what's been renamed, and sometimes what's been forgotten. I spent days trying all sorts of ways, and finally joined the kde-windows list to get help.

Here's the thread, hope it helps, but I suspect you'll still have problems:
http://old.nabble.com/Compiling-digiKam-td27193671.html

Given that it doesn't seem possible to get updates into the Windows KDE distribution within a reasonable amount of time, perhaps a better distribution strategy is to work at keeping the download and compilation instructions current. I don't know if the instructions will then end up only working for people installing for the first time, i.e. whether preloaded stuff affects the procedure.

Be warned that a first time compilation takes a lot of download time, a lot of diskspace, and a lot of compilation time. According to that thread, it downloaded maybe 3GB, which expanded out to 8GB during compilation, and it all took maybe 20 hours. It's not a job to be started without adequate preparation.

Peter Shute

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Kerber [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 10:09 AM
> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional
> with the power of open source
> Subject: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows
>
> I'm starting on building digikam on windows xp using the
> tutorial on the digikam site that Gilles pointed out, and
> have already run into a
> difference:  The current kde on windows installation (4.4.4)
> does not have any packages called automoc listed anywhere in
> it.  Is this package still needed for the digiKam build?
>
> d
>
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Re: Building digikam on windows

David kerber-2
On 8/26/2010 2:40 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> windows users, including me, are dummies in compilation, for the most. I
> had programmed and compiled in fortran, basic and a little in Pascal,
> but , since windows 95 appeared, I lost ability for it.
>
> Would be nice compile and distribute digikam for windows users.

That's what I'm going to try to do, but don't hold your breath; I'm not
a C programmer, so most of what I'm doing will be following directions
by rote.

D

>
> juangal
>
> ----Mensaje original----
> De: [hidden email]
> Fecha: 26/08/2010 2:26
> Para: "digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
> power of open source"<[hidden email]>
> Asunto: Re: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows
>
> This is exactly the sort of problem I ran into when I tried it. I assume
> it's to do with changes to what's included in the distribution, what's
> been renamed, and sometimes what's been forgotten. I spent days trying
> all sorts of ways, and finally joined the kde-windows list to get help.
>
> Here's the thread, hope it helps, but I suspect you'll still have problems:
> http://old.nabble.com/Compiling-digiKam-td27193671.html
>
> Given that it doesn't seem possible to get updates into the Windows KDE
> distribution within a reasonable amount of time, perhaps a better
> distribution strategy is to work at keeping the download and compilation
> instructions current. I don't know if the instructions will then end up
> only working for people installing for the first time, i.e. whether
> preloaded stuff affects the procedure.
>
> Be warned that a first time compilation takes a lot of download time, a
> lot of diskspace, and a lot of compilation time. According to that
> thread, it downloaded maybe 3GB, which expanded out to 8GB during
> compilation, and it all took maybe 20 hours. It's not a job to be
> started without adequate preparation.
>
> Peter Shute
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: David Kerber [mailto:[hidden email]]
>  > Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 10:09 AM
>  > To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional
>  > with the power of open source
>  > Subject: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows
>  >
>  > I'm starting on building digikam on windows xp using the
>  > tutorial on the digikam site that Gilles pointed out, and
>  > have already run into a
>  > difference: The current kde on windows installation (4.4.4)
>  > does not have any packages called automoc listed anywhere in
>  > it. Is this package still needed for the digiKam build?
>  >
>  > d

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Re: Building digikam on windows

David Kerber
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On 8/26/2010 2:40 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> windows users, including me, are dummies in compilation, for the most. I
> had programmed and compiled in fortran, basic and a little in Pascal,
> but , since windows 95 appeared, I lost ability for it.
>
> Would be nice compile and distribute digikam for windows users.

That's what I'm going to try to do, but don't hold your breath; I'm not
a C programmer, so most of what I'm doing will be following directions
by rote.

D

>
> juangal
>
> ----Mensaje original----
> De: [hidden email]
> Fecha: 26/08/2010 2:26
> Para: "digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
> power of open source"<[hidden email]>
> Asunto: Re: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows
>
> This is exactly the sort of problem I ran into when I tried it. I assume
> it's to do with changes to what's included in the distribution, what's
> been renamed, and sometimes what's been forgotten. I spent days trying
> all sorts of ways, and finally joined the kde-windows list to get help.
>
> Here's the thread, hope it helps, but I suspect you'll still have problems:
> http://old.nabble.com/Compiling-digiKam-td27193671.html
>
> Given that it doesn't seem possible to get updates into the Windows KDE
> distribution within a reasonable amount of time, perhaps a better
> distribution strategy is to work at keeping the download and compilation
> instructions current. I don't know if the instructions will then end up
> only working for people installing for the first time, i.e. whether
> preloaded stuff affects the procedure.
>
> Be warned that a first time compilation takes a lot of download time, a
> lot of diskspace, and a lot of compilation time. According to that
> thread, it downloaded maybe 3GB, which expanded out to 8GB during
> compilation, and it all took maybe 20 hours. It's not a job to be
> started without adequate preparation.
>
> Peter Shute
>
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: David Kerber [mailto:[hidden email]]
>  > Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 10:09 AM
>  > To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional
>  > with the power of open source
>  > Subject: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows
>  >
>  > I'm starting on building digikam on windows xp using the
>  > tutorial on the digikam site that Gilles pointed out, and
>  > have already run into a
>  > difference: The current kde on windows installation (4.4.4)
>  > does not have any packages called automoc listed anywhere in
>  > it. Is this package still needed for the digiKam build?
>  >
>  > d

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Re: Building digikam on windows

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But once you've compiled it, how will you distribute it? And which files need distributing? I assume the compilation process creates more than just an exe for digiKam, but also plugins and a whole matching KDE environment. Or am I wrong?



Peter Shute





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Sent: Fri Aug 27 05:05:15 2010
Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows



On 8/26/2010 2:40 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> windows users, including me, are dummies in compilation, for the most. I

> had programmed and compiled in fortran, basic and a little in Pascal,

> but , since windows 95 appeared, I lost ability for it.

>

> Would be nice compile and distribute digikam for windows users.



That's what I'm going to try to do, but don't hold your breath; I'm not

a C programmer, so most of what I'm doing will be following directions

by rote.



D



>

> juangal

>

> ----Mensaje original----

> De: [hidden email]

> Fecha: 26/08/2010 2:26

> Para: "digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the

> power of open source"<[hidden email]>

> Asunto: Re: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows

>

> This is exactly the sort of problem I ran into when I tried it. I assume

> it's to do with changes to what's included in the distribution, what's

> been renamed, and sometimes what's been forgotten. I spent days trying

> all sorts of ways, and finally joined the kde-windows list to get help.

>

> Here's the thread, hope it helps, but I suspect you'll still have problems:

> http://old.nabble.com/Compiling-digiKam-td27193671.html

>

> Given that it doesn't seem possible to get updates into the Windows KDE

> distribution within a reasonable amount of time, perhaps a better

> distribution strategy is to work at keeping the download and compilation

> instructions current. I don't know if the instructions will then end up

> only working for people installing for the first time, i.e. whether

> preloaded stuff affects the procedure.

>

> Be warned that a first time compilation takes a lot of download time, a

> lot of diskspace, and a lot of compilation time. According to that

> thread, it downloaded maybe 3GB, which expanded out to 8GB during

> compilation, and it all took maybe 20 hours. It's not a job to be

> started without adequate preparation.

>

> Peter Shute

>

>  > -----Original Message-----

>  > From: David Kerber [mailto:[hidden email]]

>  > Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 10:09 AM

>  > To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional

>  > with the power of open source

>  > Subject: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows

>  >

>  > I'm starting on building digikam on windows xp using the

>  > tutorial on the digikam site that Gilles pointed out, and

>  > have already run into a

>  > difference: The current kde on windows installation (4.4.4)

>  > does not have any packages called automoc listed anywhere in

>  > it. Is this package still needed for the digiKam build?

>  >

>  > d



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Re: Building digikam on windows

David Kerber
On 8/26/2010 3:20 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
> But once you've compiled it, how will you distribute it? And which files need distributing? I assume the compilation process creates more than just an exe for digiKam, but also plugins and a whole matching KDE environment. Or am I wrong?

I have no idea right now.  That's one of many things I need to learn
about it.  I'm hoping that maybe if somebody goes through the KDE on
windows installation procedure to get a running copy of digiKam, that
maybe my build may be able to just be copied over the old one, and have
it run.  But I have no idea right now if that will actually work or not.

D

>
> Peter Shute
>
>
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> From: David Kerber<[hidden email]>
> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source<[hidden email]>
> Sent: Fri Aug 27 05:05:15 2010
> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows
>
> On 8/26/2010 2:40 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>> windows users, including me, are dummies in compilation, for the most. I
>> had programmed and compiled in fortran, basic and a little in Pascal,
>> but , since windows 95 appeared, I lost ability for it.
>>
>> Would be nice compile and distribute digikam for windows users.
>
> That's what I'm going to try to do, but don't hold your breath; I'm not
> a C programmer, so most of what I'm doing will be following directions
> by rote.
>
> D
>
>>
>> juangal
>>
>> ----Mensaje original----
>> De: [hidden email]
>> Fecha: 26/08/2010 2:26
>> Para: "digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the
>> power of open source"<[hidden email]>
>> Asunto: Re: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows
>>
>> This is exactly the sort of problem I ran into when I tried it. I assume
>> it's to do with changes to what's included in the distribution, what's
>> been renamed, and sometimes what's been forgotten. I spent days trying
>> all sorts of ways, and finally joined the kde-windows list to get help.
>>
>> Here's the thread, hope it helps, but I suspect you'll still have problems:
>> http://old.nabble.com/Compiling-digiKam-td27193671.html
>>
>> Given that it doesn't seem possible to get updates into the Windows KDE
>> distribution within a reasonable amount of time, perhaps a better
>> distribution strategy is to work at keeping the download and compilation
>> instructions current. I don't know if the instructions will then end up
>> only working for people installing for the first time, i.e. whether
>> preloaded stuff affects the procedure.
>>
>> Be warned that a first time compilation takes a lot of download time, a
>> lot of diskspace, and a lot of compilation time. According to that
>> thread, it downloaded maybe 3GB, which expanded out to 8GB during
>> compilation, and it all took maybe 20 hours. It's not a job to be
>> started without adequate preparation.
>>
>> Peter Shute
>>
>>   >  -----Original Message-----
>>   >  From: David Kerber [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>   >  Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 10:09 AM
>>   >  To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional
>>   >  with the power of open source
>>   >  Subject: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows
>>   >
>>   >  I'm starting on building digikam on windows xp using the
>>   >  tutorial on the digikam site that Gilles pointed out, and
>>   >  have already run into a
>>   >  difference: The current kde on windows installation (4.4.4)
>>   >  does not have any packages called automoc listed anywhere in
>>   >  it. Is this package still needed for the digiKam build?
>>   >
>>   >  d
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Re: Building digikam on windows

pshute
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It will be several gigabytes, too big to distribute, unless you have access to lots of cheap bandwidth.



You could maintain an original and an updated installation, and work out which files have changed, and just distribute those. But then people will need to know exactly where to put them, and how.



I wonder if a better approach might be to ask the kde-win people what to do to help those who can't compile it for themselves. There must be other kde programs suffering the same problems.



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Sent: Fri Aug 27 05:38:26 2010
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On 8/26/2010 3:20 PM, Peter Shute wrote:

> But once you've compiled it, how will you distribute it? And which files need distributing? I assume the compilation process creates more than just an exe for digiKam, but also plugins and a whole matching KDE environment. Or am I wrong?



I have no idea right now.  That's one of many things I need to learn

about it.  I'm hoping that maybe if somebody goes through the KDE on

windows installation procedure to get a running copy of digiKam, that

maybe my build may be able to just be copied over the old one, and have

it run.  But I have no idea right now if that will actually work or not.



D



>

> Peter Shute

>

>

> --------------------------

> Sent using BlackBerry

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: David Kerber<[hidden email]>

> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source<[hidden email]>

> Sent: Fri Aug 27 05:05:15 2010

> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows

>

> On 8/26/2010 2:40 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

>> windows users, including me, are dummies in compilation, for the most. I

>> had programmed and compiled in fortran, basic and a little in Pascal,

>> but , since windows 95 appeared, I lost ability for it.

>>

>> Would be nice compile and distribute digikam for windows users.

>

> That's what I'm going to try to do, but don't hold your breath; I'm not

> a C programmer, so most of what I'm doing will be following directions

> by rote.

>

> D

>

>>

>> juangal

>>

>> ----Mensaje original----

>> De: [hidden email]

>> Fecha: 26/08/2010 2:26

>> Para: "digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the

>> power of open source"<[hidden email]>

>> Asunto: Re: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows

>>

>> This is exactly the sort of problem I ran into when I tried it. I assume

>> it's to do with changes to what's included in the distribution, what's

>> been renamed, and sometimes what's been forgotten. I spent days trying

>> all sorts of ways, and finally joined the kde-windows list to get help.

>>

>> Here's the thread, hope it helps, but I suspect you'll still have problems:

>> http://old.nabble.com/Compiling-digiKam-td27193671.html

>>

>> Given that it doesn't seem possible to get updates into the Windows KDE

>> distribution within a reasonable amount of time, perhaps a better

>> distribution strategy is to work at keeping the download and compilation

>> instructions current. I don't know if the instructions will then end up

>> only working for people installing for the first time, i.e. whether

>> preloaded stuff affects the procedure.

>>

>> Be warned that a first time compilation takes a lot of download time, a

>> lot of diskspace, and a lot of compilation time. According to that

>> thread, it downloaded maybe 3GB, which expanded out to 8GB during

>> compilation, and it all took maybe 20 hours. It's not a job to be

>> started without adequate preparation.

>>

>> Peter Shute

>>

>>   >  -----Original Message-----

>>   >  From: David Kerber [mailto:[hidden email]]

>>   >  Sent: Thursday, 26 August 2010 10:09 AM

>>   >  To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional

>>   >  with the power of open source

>>   >  Subject: [Digikam-users] Building digikam on windows

>>   >

>>   >  I'm starting on building digikam on windows xp using the

>>   >  tutorial on the digikam site that Gilles pointed out, and

>>   >  have already run into a

>>   >  difference: The current kde on windows installation (4.4.4)

>>   >  does not have any packages called automoc listed anywhere in

>>   >  it. Is this package still needed for the digiKam build?

>>   >

>>   >  d

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Re: Building digikam on windows

Andrew Goodbody
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On 26/08/2010 20:38, David Kerber wrote:

> On 8/26/2010 3:20 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
>> But once you've compiled it, how will you distribute it? And which
>> files need distributing? I assume the compilation process creates
>> more than just an exe for digiKam, but also plugins and a whole
>> matching KDE environment. Or am I wrong?
>
> I have no idea right now.  That's one of many things I need to learn
> about it.  I'm hoping that maybe if somebody goes through the KDE on
> windows installation procedure to get a running copy of digiKam,
> that maybe my build may be able to just be copied over the old one,
> and have it run.  But I have no idea right now if that will actually
> work or not.

Digikam is a KDE application. It needs KDE in order to run. You also
need the devel packages available in order to build it. It also needs to
be installed correctly in order for it to find all the resources it
needs such as icons.

Prebuilt Digikam for windows is available through KDE on Windows project
http://windows.kde.org/ but if you want the latest version you will have
to build it all yourself using emerge or the precompiled packages
http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Windows. Perhaps if
the KDE on Windows people were aware of the interest in Digikam then
they may be encouraged to update the binary version sooner rather than
later.

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Re: Building digikam on windows

David kerber-2
On 8/26/2010 4:08 PM, Andrew Goodbody wrote:

> On 26/08/2010 20:38, David Kerber wrote:
>> On 8/26/2010 3:20 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
>>> But once you've compiled it, how will you distribute it? And which
>>> files need distributing? I assume the compilation process creates
>>> more than just an exe for digiKam, but also plugins and a whole
>>> matching KDE environment. Or am I wrong?
>>
>> I have no idea right now.  That's one of many things I need to learn
>> about it.  I'm hoping that maybe if somebody goes through the KDE on
>> windows installation procedure to get a running copy of digiKam,
>> that maybe my build may be able to just be copied over the old one,
>> and have it run.  But I have no idea right now if that will actually
>> work or not.
>
> Digikam is a KDE application. It needs KDE in order to run. You also
> need the devel packages available in order to build it. It also needs to
> be installed correctly in order for it to find all the resources it
> needs such as icons.

I know; that's why I said "goes through the kde on windows
installation".  I'm hoping that once they have a working installation of
digikam on kde for windows, that just updating digikam will be all that
is required to get a new version of digikam working.  I realize it may
be a long shot, but it's worth it for me to learn something new any way.

>
> Prebuilt Digikam for windows is available through KDE on Windows project

That's what I have now, and it's loaded with bugs.


> http://windows.kde.org/ but if you want the latest version you will have
> to build it all yourself using emerge or the precompiled packages
> http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Windows. Perhaps if
> the KDE on Windows people were aware of the interest in Digikam then
> they may be encouraged to update the binary version sooner rather than
> later.

Might be worth a shot.
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Re: Building digikam on windows

David Kerber
In reply to this post by Andrew Goodbody
On 8/26/2010 4:08 PM, Andrew Goodbody wrote:

> On 26/08/2010 20:38, David Kerber wrote:
>> On 8/26/2010 3:20 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
>>> But once you've compiled it, how will you distribute it? And which
>>> files need distributing? I assume the compilation process creates
>>> more than just an exe for digiKam, but also plugins and a whole
>>> matching KDE environment. Or am I wrong?
>>
>> I have no idea right now.  That's one of many things I need to learn
>> about it.  I'm hoping that maybe if somebody goes through the KDE on
>> windows installation procedure to get a running copy of digiKam,
>> that maybe my build may be able to just be copied over the old one,
>> and have it run.  But I have no idea right now if that will actually
>> work or not.
>
> Digikam is a KDE application. It needs KDE in order to run. You also
> need the devel packages available in order to build it. It also needs to
> be installed correctly in order for it to find all the resources it
> needs such as icons.

I know; that's why I said "goes through the kde on windows
installation".  I'm hoping that once they have a working installation of
digikam on kde for windows, that just updating digikam will be all that
is required to get a new version of digikam working.  I realize it may
be a long shot, but it's worth it for me to learn something new any way.

>
> Prebuilt Digikam for windows is available through KDE on Windows project

That's what I have now, and it's loaded with bugs.


> http://windows.kde.org/ but if you want the latest version you will have
> to build it all yourself using emerge or the precompiled packages
> http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Windows. Perhaps if
> the KDE on Windows people were aware of the interest in Digikam then
> they may be encouraged to update the binary version sooner rather than
> later.

Might be worth a shot.
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