Bug#689047: digikam: Maintainer deliberately uploaded a package in experimental that will not be installable for months

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Bug#689047: digikam: Maintainer deliberately uploaded a package in experimental that will not be installable for months

Eric Valette
Package: digikam
Version: 3.0.0~beta1a-1
Severity: grave
Justification: renders package unusable

See the changelog and bug  689004.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 3.5.4 (SMP w/2 CPU cores; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages digikam depends on:
pn  digikam-data            <none>
ii  kde-runtime             4:4.8.4-1
ii  libc6                   2.13-35
ii  libgcc1                 1:4.7.2-2
ii  libgomp1                4.7.2-2
ii  libgphoto2-2            2.4.14-2
ii  libgphoto2-port0        2.4.14-2
ii  libjasper1              1.900.1-13
ii  libjpeg8                8d-1
ii  libkdcraw20             4:4.8.4-1
ii  libkdecore5             4:4.8.4-3
ii  libkdeui5               4:4.8.4-3
ii  libkdewebkit5           4:4.8.4-3
ii  libkexiv2-10            4:4.8.4-1
ii  libkfile4               4:4.8.4-3
ii  libkhtml5               4:4.8.4-3
ii  libkio5                 4:4.8.4-3
ii  libkipi8                4:4.8.4-1
ii  libknotifyconfig4       4:4.8.4-3
ii  libkparts4              4:4.8.4-3
ii  liblcms1                1.19.dfsg-1.2
ii  liblensfun0             0.2.5-2
ii  liblqr-1-0              0.4.1-2
ii  libmarblewidget13       4:4.8.4-3
ii  libnepomuk4             4:4.8.4-3
ii  libopencv-core2.4       2.4.2+dfsg-0exp1
ii  libopencv-highgui2.4    2.4.2+dfsg-0exp1
ii  libopencv-imgproc2.4    2.4.2+dfsg-0exp1
ii  libopencv-legacy2.4     2.4.2+dfsg-0exp1
ii  libopencv-objdetect2.4  2.4.2+dfsg-0exp1
ii  libphonon4              4:4.6.0.0-2
ii  libpng12-0              1.2.49-3
ii  libqjson0               0.7.1-6
ii  libqt4-dbus             4:4.8.2+dfsg-2
ii  libqt4-network          4:4.8.2+dfsg-2
ii  libqt4-qt3support       4:4.8.2+dfsg-2
ii  libqt4-sql              4:4.8.2+dfsg-2
ii  libqt4-sql-sqlite       4:4.8.2+dfsg-2
ii  libqt4-xml              4:4.8.2+dfsg-2
ii  libqtcore4              4:4.8.2+dfsg-2
ii  libqtgui4               4:4.8.2+dfsg-2
ii  libqtwebkit4            2.2.1-4+b1
ii  libsolid4               4:4.8.4-3
ii  libsoprano4             2.7.6+dfsg.1-1
ii  libstdc++6              4.7.2-2
ii  libtiff4                3.9.6-7
ii  libx11-6                2:1.5.0-1
ii  phonon                  4:4.6.0.0-2

Versions of packages digikam recommends:
ii  google-chrome-stable [www-browser]  22.0.1229.79-r158531
ii  iceweasel [www-browser]             15.0.1-1
pn  kipi-plugins                        <none>
ii  konqueror [www-browser]             4:4.8.4-1
ii  links2 [www-browser]                2.7-1
ii  lynx-cur [www-browser]              2.8.8dev.14-1
ii  mplayerthumbs                       4:4.8.4-2
ii  opera [www-browser]                 12.02.1578
ii  w3m [www-browser]                   0.5.3-8

Versions of packages digikam suggests:
pn  digikam-doc  <none>

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Bug#689047: digikam: Maintainer deliberately uploaded a package in experimental that will not be installable for months

Mark Purcell-2
merge 689047 689004
retitle 689004 digikam/3.0 conficts with kdegraphics/4.8
found 689047 4:3.0.0~beta1a-1
notfound 689047 3.0.0~beta1a-1
thanks

On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 02:53:51 Eric Valette wrote:
> Package: digikam
> Version: 3.0.0~beta1a-1
> Severity: grave
> Justification: renders package unusable
>
> See the changelog and bug  689004.
>

Eric,

I seem to be unable to email you directly, all email returns with a 550 error,
so I will continue to utilise the BTS.

digikam/experimental is installable now (see below), but it does conflict with
kdegraphics/unstable.  It installs fine and is a fully usable package (contary
to your assertions), and some users wish to utilise the latest upstream
release, which is why I have uploaded to experimental.

However, you are correct that this is not an acceptable long terms solution
and is a release critical bug and should not be brought into unstable, hence
why it is uploaded to experimental.  Upstream has a peculiar approach where
they start utilising newer components of kdegraphics.  Again you are correct
this is not the debian way and is not a sensible approach to packaging.  We
also had exactly the same issue with the release of digikam/2.0 which was
using unreleased features from kdegraphics/4.7.  The workaround we used then,
and are using now is to make the bleeding edge package available via
experimenal, whilst maintaining the fully compatible package via unstable.

So debian users have a number of choices:

1. Bleeding edge digikam/3.0.  In which case they can install via
experimental but cannot utilise kdegraphics/4.8.

2. Integrated digikam/2.6 kdegraphics/4.8. In which case they can install
from unstable/ testing and shortly stable..  Once stable is released I will
likley release digikam/2.9 to unstable/testing.

3. Roll their own.


I think this is a perfectly reasonable approach, which I understand you are
not happy with.  However I would refer you to the headline for experimental
packages:

http://packages.debian.org/experimental/digikam

        Package: digikam (4:3.0.0~beta1a-1)

        Warning: This package is from the experimental distribution. That means
        it is likely unstable or buggy, and it may even cause data loss. Please
        be sure to consult the changelog and other possible documentation before
        using it.

Mark




# apt-get -t experimental install digikam
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree      
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  digikam-data kipi-plugins kipi-plugins-common
Suggested packages:
  gallery gimp
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  gwenview kdegraphics kdegraphics-thumbnailers ksnapshot libkdcraw-data
libkdcraw20 libkexiv2-10 libkexiv2-data libkipi-data libkipi8
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  digikam digikam-data kipi-plugins kipi-plugins-common
0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 10 to remove and 398 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/36.5 MB of archives.
After this operation, 89.4 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
Retrieving bug reports... Done
Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done
grave bugs of digikam (-> 4:3.0.0~beta1a-1) <unfixed>
 #689047 - digikam: Maintainer deliberately uploaded a package in experimental
that will not be installable for months
 #689004 - digikam again not installable
Summary:
 digikam(2 bugs)
Are you sure you want to install/upgrade the above packages? [Y/n/?/...]
(Reading database ... 329290 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing kdegraphics ...
Removing gwenview ...
Removing kdegraphics-thumbnailers ...
Removing ksnapshot ...
Removing libkdcraw20 ...
Removing libkdcraw-data ...
Removing libkexiv2-10 ...
Removing libkexiv2-data ...
Removing libkipi8 ...
Removing libkipi-data ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus ...
Selecting previously unselected package kipi-plugins-common.
(Reading database ... 329159 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking kipi-plugins-common (from .../kipi-plugins-
common_4%3a3.0.0~beta1a-1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package kipi-plugins.
Unpacking kipi-plugins (from .../kipi-plugins_4%3a3.0.0~beta1a-1_amd64.deb)
...
Selecting previously unselected package digikam-data.
Unpacking digikam-data (from .../digikam-data_4%3a3.0.0~beta1a-1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously unselected package digikam.
Unpacking digikam (from .../digikam_4%3a3.0.0~beta1a-1_amd64.deb) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus ...
Processing triggers for menu ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Setting up kipi-plugins-common (4:3.0.0~beta1a-1) ...
Setting up digikam-data (4:3.0.0~beta1a-1) ...
Setting up digikam (4:3.0.0~beta1a-1) ...
Setting up kipi-plugins (4:3.0.0~beta1a-1) ...
Processing triggers for menu ...

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Processed: Re: Bug#689047: digikam: Maintainer deliberately uploaded a package in experimental that will not be installable for months

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> merge 689047 689004
Bug #689047 [digikam] digikam: Maintainer deliberately uploaded a package in experimental that will not be installable for months
Bug #689004 [digikam] digikam again not installable
Bug #689004 [digikam] digikam again not installable
Merged 689004 689047
> retitle 689004 digikam/3.0 conficts with kdegraphics/4.8
Bug #689004 [digikam] digikam again not installable
Bug #689047 [digikam] digikam: Maintainer deliberately uploaded a package in experimental that will not be installable for months
Changed Bug title to 'digikam/3.0 conficts with kdegraphics/4.8' from 'digikam again not installable'
Changed Bug title to 'digikam/3.0 conficts with kdegraphics/4.8' from 'digikam: Maintainer deliberately uploaded a package in experimental that will not be installable for months'
> found 689047 4:3.0.0~beta1a-1
Bug #689047 [digikam] digikam/3.0 conficts with kdegraphics/4.8
Bug #689004 [digikam] digikam/3.0 conficts with kdegraphics/4.8
Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #689047 to the same values previously set
Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #689004 to the same values previously set
> notfound 689047 3.0.0~beta1a-1
Bug #689047 [digikam] digikam/3.0 conficts with kdegraphics/4.8
Bug #689004 [digikam] digikam/3.0 conficts with kdegraphics/4.8
There is no source info for the package 'digikam' at version '3.0.0~beta1a-1' with architecture ''
Unable to make a source version for version '3.0.0~beta1a-1'
No longer marked as found in versions 3.0.0~beta1a-1.
No longer marked as found in versions 3.0.0~beta1a-1.
> thanks
Stopping processing here.

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Bug#689047: digikam: Maintainer deliberately uploaded a package in experimental that will not be installable for months

Eric Valette
In reply to this post by Mark Purcell-2
On 29/09/2012 01:03, Mark Purcell wrote:

> digikam/experimental is installable now (see below), but it does conflict with
> kdegraphics/unstable.  It installs fine and is a fully usable package (contary
> to your assertions), and some users wish to utilise the latest upstream
> release, which is why I have uploaded to experimental.

For me this mean its not acceptable as anyone using kde will need
kdegraphics/unstable!!

> However, you are correct that this is not an acceptable long terms solution
> and is a release critical bug and should not be brought into unstable, hence
> why it is uploaded to experimental.

I disagree. You should upload onlt thinks taht are installable, that
means you should provide also the kde 4.10 packages!

> Upstream has a peculiar approach where
> they start utilising newer components of kdegraphics.  Again you are correct
> this is not the debian way and is not a sensible approach to packaging.  We
> also had exactly the same issue with the release of digikam/2.0 which was
> using unreleased features from kdegraphics/4.7.  The workaround we used then,
> and are using now is to make the bleeding edge package available via
> experimenal, whilst maintaining the fully compatible package via unstable.

At that time 4.7 was already available via the kde/qt repository if I
remember... This is not the case for 4.10 AFAICT.

> 1. Bleeding edge digikam/3.0.  In which case they can install via
> experimental but cannot utilise kdegraphics/4.8.

This is not a solution!

--eric

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Re: Bug#689047: digikam: Maintainer deliberately uploaded a package in experimental that will not be installable for months

S. Burmeister
Why do you bother the digikam-devel mailinglist with your debian bug reports.

Please do not put digikam-devel into CC and remove it from all bugs you have
already in your buguzilla.

Sven
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