[Bug 236304] New: Add an button in the Whitebalance Settings to load Camera WB

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[Bug 236304] New: Add an button in the Whitebalance Settings to load Camera WB

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           Summary: Add an button in the Whitebalance Settings to load
                    Camera WB
           Product: digikam
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: Ubuntu Packages
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: wishlist
          Priority: NOR
         Component: general
        AssignedTo: [hidden email]
        ReportedBy: [hidden email]


Version:           1.2 (using KDE 4.4.2)
Compiler:          Precompiled Packages
OS:                Linux
Installed from:    Ubuntu Packages

For me it´s an big wish to have the aviability to Load the Camera White balance
in the white balance settings of the Image Editor.
This is important for me because Digikam uses everytime the last settings an
when you have Images from different light situations it´s hard to find the
right value.

In my opinion it ist the best to start with the Camera WB and adjust the own
values from this point.

Thank´s

P.s. Contact me by mail for further Questions

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[Bug 236304] Add an button in the Whitebalance Settings to load Camera WB

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[Bug 236304] Add an button in the Whitebalance Settings to load Camera WB

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--- Comment #1 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2010-05-06 09:59:57 ---
Andreas,

From Exiv2, there is a way to extract camera white balance value in °K, or a t
least some numerical information which can be converted later to °K ?

Gilles Caulier

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[Bug 236304] Add an button in the Whitebalance Settings to load Camera WB

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--- Comment #2 from Andreas Huggel <ahuggel gmx net>  2010-05-06 11:10:54 ---
All I can say is that WB information is kept in the makernotes in whatever
proprietary format each camera maker chose to store it there. Even for a given
camera brand, this can be confusing, e.g., Exiv2 has more than 10 different
Olympus makernote tags which contain the word "whitebalance"...

If we know which information (tags) to use and how to convert them to a
temperature, then I'll be happy to add an "easy-access" function for this task
to exiv2 so that it's transparent for applications.

I imagine dcraw or ufraw would be the place to ask or check about WB info and
formats, since they are also concerned about rendering the image.

Andreas

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[Bug 236304] Add an button in the Whitebalance Settings to load Camera WB

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--- Comment #3 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2010-05-06 11:13:40 ---
Right Andreas,

Alex, what you can ask about libraw WB extraction from makernotes ?

Gilles

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[Bug 236304] Add an button in the Whitebalance Settings to load Camera WB

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--- Comment #4 from Alex Tutubalin <lexa lexa ru>  2010-05-06 15:30:51 ---
LibRaw extracts camera WB from file.

So, if you want to use camera wb, just set
params.use_camera_wb = 1;

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[Bug 236304] Add an button in the Whitebalance Settings to load Camera WB

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--- Comment #5 from Jens Mueller <tschenser gmx de>  2010-05-06 19:39:58 ---
Alex,

sorry, I though you misunderstood something, the question was not how to apply
camera wb, it was how to get the temerature value for display.

As I know we can take LibRaw's imgdata.color.cam_mul[] and compute it be a
iterate function. See also Adobe DNG specification, section "Translating Camera
Neutral Coordinates to White Balance xy Coordinates".

Looks like http://www.brucelindbloom.com/index.html?Eqn_XYZ_to_T.html is a
implementation we want of.

Jens

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--- Comment #6 from Alex Tutubalin <lexa lexa ru>  2010-05-06 20:32:15 ---
Jens,

LibRaw uses 3 (or 4 for two-different-greens cameras) scale coefficients for
white balance. These coefficients are not camera independed, but includes both
color balance and chanel sensitivity adjustment in one step. These coefficients
are stored in Exif data (for 'as shot' balance), so it is straightforward way.

It is impossible to separate sensitivity part from 'color temperature/tint'
part without experiments with *each* supported camera (300+). You need test
shot of good gray card under well-controlled light (5000K or so). I have no
such data.
Also, this is not good way because original data (provided by camera) are 3-4
coefficients (green one is 1.0 for many cameras).

Adobe uses another way, similar for von Kries transformation. This way is
theoretically right (althought, color from 'Raw Photo Processor' which uses
4-coefficients way is way better than from Adobe's software), but in practice
it leads to more noise because weak noisy channels are mixed with strong one.

Summary:
 1) LibRaw uses 3(4) coefficients way, so any calling application should
provide these data to postprocessing stage.
 2) Cameras store these coefficients in Exif data, so it is easy to provide
this coefficients to LibRaw (and LibRaw itself reads them).
 3) If you want to play with Von Kries/Bradford white point adjustments, it is
up to you, but starting point is camera's coefficients and you should provide
same (may be, modified) coefficients to LibRaw postprocessing.

Also, I see no way to deal with two-different-green cameras and von
Kries/Bradford transformation.

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