[Bug 199157] New: Introducing Place Finder Sidebar

[Michal Thoma]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199157

           Summary: Introducing Place Finder Sidebar
           Product: digikam
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: Ubuntu Packages
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: wishlist
          Priority: NOR
         Component: general
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        ReportedBy: [hidden email]


Version:           0.10 (using KDE 4.2.2)
OS:                Linux
Installed from:    Ubuntu Packages

I would like to have a Place Finder sidebar tool which will work with standard
IPTC/XMP Origin set of data. This is different and in many cases more practical
approach than geolocation.

The idea behind is that IPTC/XMP contains heirarchical set of data for:

County or Country code < Privnce/State < City < Sublocation

This four predefined hierarchical levels are unfortunately still just loosely
used in Digikam (even batch assigning is impossible). Though can be very
beneficial. Actually many people are probably using similar hierarchy using
tags/keywords. Employing this existing IPTC/XMP fields will be more valid
approach allowing much easier and transparent interchangeability.

The idea of Place Finder Sidebar is just it will allow to browse images in
similar way as Tags sidebar jut only employing this Origin tags instead.

So list of the countries at first level, Privince/State on second, then City
and Sublocation. If i.e. there are images wihtough Province/State tag set, the
City or Sublocaton will be dsplayed directly under Country. (Or another
approach display "Undefined" category).

The Microsoft's MediaExpression (formerly iView Media Pro) has Place Finder
Sidebar and I was using that extensively on many projects.

In future I can imagine procedures which will automatically fill these
metadatas to images according to geolocation tags and vice versa will fill
geolocation to images according to this origin metadata (though not
accurately).

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--- Comment #1 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2009-07-06 15:24:10 ---
This is a job for :

1/ Template metadata manager to fill these info (under construction by me)
2/ Advanced search tool to query DB about this info (Marcel ?).
3/ A tool to sync XMP using GPS info (already reported in other file).

Gilles Caulier

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--- Comment #2 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2010-06-07 10:02:19 ---
Michal,

accordingly with #1, in digiKam 1.2.0 :

1/ is done.
2/ I don't know.
3/ is done.

Please update digiKam, kipi-plugins, libkexiv2, and exiv2 to last satble, and
try again

Gilles Caulier

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--- Comment #3 from Michal Thoma <michal thoma cz>  2010-06-10 03:23:22 ---
Hi,

1/ Template engine is there for some time. I did make good use of that adding
author's copyright data, though it's not solution for this issue. Creating
template for every place is simply impossible given the number of sublocations,
cities and countries needed. It should be possible to set Country,State,City
and Sublocation values directly and separately and in batches.

2/ The search tool won't allow to search in the location fields. Anyway my idea
was not simple search though some kind of "location browser" similar to Tag
browser sidebar. Though according to this node
(http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/515) I believe the development is going
on...

3/Couldn't test as I don't have any geotagged images to try, unfortunately.

Anyway I'm very excited with the development the digikam is taking!

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--- Comment #4 from Michal Thoma <michal thoma cz>  2010-06-10 03:57:43 ---
ad 3/ I tried now with Correlator plugin though it seems that this reverse
geotaging is still not in my version and I need to upgrade...

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[Gabriel Voicu]

Hello,

As you found out eariler, reverse geotaging is under development. I don't know when it will be included in a digiKam/kipi release.

Place finder tool is already implemented but is not added in advanced search tool,  as Marcel Wiesweg said. My task is to integrate it.

Gabriel Voicu

You can follow here more details: community.kde.org/Digikam/GSoC2010/ReverseGeocoding

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--- Comment #4 from Michal Thoma <michal thoma cz>  2010-06-10 03:57:43 ---
ad 3/ I tried now with Correlator plugin though it seems that this reverse
geotaging is still not in my version and I need to upgrade...

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--- Comment #5 from Gabriel Voicu <ping gabi gmail com>  2010-06-11 00:05:21 ---
Hello,

As you found out eariler, reverse geotaging is under development. I don't
know when it will be included in a digiKam/kipi release.
Place finder tool is already implemented but is not added in advanced search
tool,  as Marcel Wiesweg said. My task is to integrate it.

Gabriel Voicu

You can follow here more details:
community.kde.org/Digikam/GSoC2010/ReverseGeocoding

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> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199157
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> --- Comment #4 from Michal Thoma <michal thoma cz>  2010-06-10 03:57:43 ---
> ad 3/ I tried now with Correlator plugin though it seems that this reverse
> geotaging is still not in my version and I need to upgrade...
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--- Comment #6 from Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> ---
Michal,

This file still valid using digiKam 3.5.0

Gilles Caulier

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--- Comment #7 from Michal Thoma <[hidden email]> ---
I believe it is. Still digikam doesn't allow easily browse or write XMP
dedicated origin fields (country > state > city > location). These fields are
actually present in templates, but I believe these fields should not be there -
it should be possible to fill these fields through the description/keywords
sidebar. For browsing, I suggest, that these could be treated as special type
of the keywords with predefined hierarchy...

Quite a big effort though. Anyway this allows some standardization to the
location tagging. With keywoards people tend to to do unsystematic location
tags which results in less semantically understandable and less universal
metadata.

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