[Bug 198100] New: XMP data from Raw pictures is not loaded

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198100

           Summary: XMP data from Raw pictures is not loaded
           Product: digikam
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: Compiled Sources
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: NOR
         Component: general
        AssignedTo: [hidden email]
        ReportedBy: [hidden email]


Version:            (using Devel)
OS:                Linux
Installed from:    Compiled sources

Hi, I shoot in Raws with my Canon Eos 400D. I used ACDsee Pro 2.5 on Windows
but now changed to Ubuntu 9.04 and digikam. I have saved the metadata in XMP
files but digikam won't show any information. All tabs from meta data section
are empty. I opend the XMP file and the infrmation exist in there.
For importing I used Import>Add Folder. I run digikam 0.10.
Thanks.

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--- Comment #1 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2009-06-28 09:21:43 ---
If you talking XMP sidecar file, digiKam do not handle it.

Gilles Caulier

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--- Comment #2 from rafael <verdammterspam web de>  2009-06-28 12:39:10 ---
Okay thanks, I thought this is possible.
Is an integration possible? I like digikam, but I need to have a support for
XMP sidecards.
Thanks.

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--- Comment #3 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2009-06-28 13:06:21 ---
Yes, it's possible of course.

But look like all XMP informations set by ACDsee are not recognized by Exiv2
library. We need an ACDsee XMP namespace, like it's already recognized by
Exiftool:

http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/TagNames/XMP.html#acdsee

We use Exiv2 library to play with all metadata. We have also an internal
wrapper name libkexiv2 from KDE core but maintained by us.

http://www.exiv2.org/metadata.html

If you is developer, it's not very complicated to patch Exiv2. XMP namespace
definitions are in this file :

http://dev.exiv2.org/repositories/entry/exiv2/trunk/src/properties.cpp

Like you can see ACDSee and also LightRoom metadata definition are missing. All
contribution are welcome...

There are already some bugzilla entries to support XMP sidecar. i will
certainly mark this file as duplicate, excepted if it's about ACDSee only.

Gilles Caulier

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--- Comment #4 from rafael <verdammterspam web de>  2009-06-28 23:16:33 ---
Created an attachment (id=34896)
 --> (http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=34896)
XMP file from ACDsee Pro2.5

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--- Comment #5 from rafael <verdammterspam web de>  2009-06-28 23:17:24 ---
Sorry, I am not a developer.
But in my XMP files, I think there are the standard tags as well and not only
the specific ACDsee.
I attached a XMP file from a tagged image.

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--- Comment #6 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2009-07-20 12:37:43 ---
Mik,

This is another little job for you to add ACDSee XMP namespace support to
Exiv2...

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--- Comment #7 from Mikolaj Machowski <mikmach wp pl>  2009-07-20 18:15:28 ---
> Mik,
>
> This is another little job for you to add ACDSee XMP namespace support to
> Exiv2...
>
Was thinking about that but: ACDSee format isn't documented (as far as I could
find it) - the only known thing is containter for this format. Shortly: there
is nothing to write about.

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--- Comment #8 from Gilles Caulier <caulier gilles gmail com>  2009-07-20 19:19:21 ---
Mik,

At least, this tag must be registered as well in Exiv2 :

http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/TagNames/XMP.html#acdsee

Gilles

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            Summary|XMP data from Raw pictures  |ACDSee XMP sidecar from Raw
                   |is not loaded               |pictures is not loaded




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--- Comment #9 from Marcel Wiesweg <[hidden email]> ---
XMP sidecar are now supported. ACDSee namespace is not implemented yet.
Please note that we look for sidecars at filename.suffix.xmp, while ACDSee with
the file you gave seems to produce filename.xmp, omitting the suffix. This does
not work well for the simple case that you dont have the same file in different
formats, so we decided to use the first form.

Remaining as a wish to implement the ACDSee namespace.

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--- Comment #10 from Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> ---
Mik,

I tested as Marcel said in comment #9, with digiKam 4.0.0-beta2 :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/digikam/11432627864/

... And all work as expected. ACDSee tags are imported, ACDSee namespace is see
in metadata viewer. File name of XMP sidecar must follow rule to use complete
file name of image file relevant, including file extension, else, it must be a
conflict with other image using same name and not same extension, as for ex,
RAW file, in case of you shot in RAW+JPEG.

If ACDSee do not take a care of file name extension when it create XMP sidecar,
it a grave problem because it will make a mess with metadata between relevant
file. This behavior have been already reported in bugzilla about digiKam rules,
and we will not go back to prevent metadata corruption between images of same
name but not same type.

About full ACDSee XMP name space support in Exiv2, this must be reported to
Exiv2 bugzilla as well (http://dev.exiv2.org/wiki/exiv2)

Gilles Caulier

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