[Bug 172899] New: Verbiage changes for digikamapp.cpp

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[Bug 172899] New: Verbiage changes for digikamapp.cpp

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           Summary: Verbiage changes for digikamapp.cpp
           Product: digikam
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: Compiled Sources
        OS/Version: unspecified
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: wishlist
          Priority: NOR
         Component: general
        AssignedTo: [hidden email]
        ReportedBy: [hidden email]


Version:            (using Devel)
Installed from:    Compiled sources

Add/change a lot of smaller items in the main app.


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[Bug 172899] Verbiage changes for digikamapp.cpp

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--- Comment #1 from Brendan Barry <mailinglist endosquid com>  2008-10-15 22:00:24 ---
Created an attachment (id=27922)
 --> (http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=27922)
Helping with the skills I have to clear up the English used.


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[Bug 172899] Verbiage changes for digikamapp.cpp

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--- Comment #2 from Andi Clemens <andi clemens gmx net>  2008-10-16 01:20:41 ---
Some questions:

     d->refreshAlbumAction = new KAction(KIcon("view-refresh"),
i18n("Refresh"), this);
     d->refreshAlbumAction->setShortcut(Qt::Key_F5);
-    d->refreshAlbumAction->setWhatsThis(i18n("Refresh all album contents."));
+    d->refreshAlbumAction->setWhatsThis(i18n("Refresh the contents of all
albums."));
     connect(d->refreshAlbumAction, SIGNAL(triggered()), d->view,
SLOT(slotAlbumRefresh()));
     actionCollection()->addAction("album_refresh", d->refreshAlbumAction);


I guess this is wrong, since the refresh action is not working on all albums,
only on the current one.





-    d->zoomTo100percents = new KAction(KIcon("zoom-original"), i18n("Zoom to
1:1"), this);
+    d->zoomTo100percents = new KAction(KIcon("zoom-original"), i18n("Zoom to
Full"), this);
     d->zoomTo100percents->setShortcut(Qt::ALT+Qt::CTRL+Qt::Key_0);       //
NOTE: Photoshop 7 use ALT+CTRL+0
     connect(d->zoomTo100percents, SIGNAL(triggered()), d->view,
SLOT(slotZoomTo100Percents()));
     actionCollection()->addAction("album_zoomto100percents",
d->zoomTo100percents);


I think we should keep it the way it is, this is a common term (or we could use
"actual size" like in gwenview.




-    d->libsInfoAction = new KAction(KIcon("help-about"), i18n("Components
info"), this);
+    d->libsInfoAction = new KAction(KIcon("help-about"), i18n("Component
info"), this);
     connect(d->libsInfoAction, SIGNAL(triggered()), this,
SLOT(slotComponentsInfo()));
     actionCollection()->addAction("help_librariesinfo", d->libsInfoAction);


Isn't there a plural for components? This dialog shows information for all used
components, not only one.




-    d->cameraSolidMenu->menuAction()->setText(i18n("Digital Cameras"));
+    d->cameraSolidMenu->menuAction()->setText(i18n("Cameras
(Auto-detected)"));
     d->cameraSolidMenu->menuAction()->setIcon(KIcon("camera-photo"));
     d->usbMediaMenu->menuAction()->setText(i18n("USB Storage Devices"));
   
d->usbMediaMenu->menuAction()->setIcon(KIcon("drive-removable-media-usb"));
     d->cardReaderMenu->menuAction()->setText(i18n("Card Readers"));
   
d->cardReaderMenu->menuAction()->setIcon(KIcon("media-flash-smart-media"));
-    d->manuallyAddedCamerasMenu->menuAction()->setText(i18n("Cameras Added
Manually"));
+    d->manuallyAddedCamerasMenu->menuAction()->setText(i18n("Cameras (Add)"));
   
d->manuallyAddedCamerasMenu->menuAction()->setIcon(KIcon("preferences-other"));


The first one is ok I think (not yet merged though in my branch), but the
second might be wrong. This menu entry will list all manually added cameras,
now it sounds like you can only add cameras here (which can of course, but it
sounds more like an action now).




                 driveType = i18n("SD / MMC Card Reader");
                 break;
             case Solid::StorageDrive::Xd:
-                driveType = i18n("xD-Picture Card Reader");
+                driveType = i18n("xD Card Reader");
                 break;


The medium is called that way, but maybe a reading device is named differently?
I don't actually know (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XD-Picture_Card)




-    QString msg = i18n("Image finger-prints computation can take a while.\n"
-                       "What do you want to do?\n"
-                       "- Scan for changed or non-recorded items in
database\n"
-                       "- Rebuild all fingerprints (long)");
+    QString msg = i18n("The initial image fingerprinting can take some
time.\n"
+                       "Which would you prefer?\n"
+                       "- Scan for changed or non-cataloged items in the
database (quick)\n"
+                       "- Rebuild all fingerprints (takes a long time)");


This dialog will appear not only on first digiKam start, but every time when
you hit "rebuild fingerprints". So I guess initial is a wrong term here?




Again, this sounds like a lot of criticism, but it's not meant that way :-)
I appreciate your work, but sometimes I'm not quite sure about some phrases.

Gilles,

what do you think?

Andi


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Re: [Bug 172899] Verbiage changes for digikamapp.cpp

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> 01:20:41 --- Some questions:
>
>      d->refreshAlbumAction = new KAction(KIcon("view-refresh"),
> i18n("Refresh"), this);
>      d->refreshAlbumAction->setShortcut(Qt::Key_F5);
> -    d->refreshAlbumAction->setWhatsThis(i18n("Refresh all album
> contents.")); +    d->refreshAlbumAction->setWhatsThis(i18n("Refresh the
> contents of all albums."));
>      connect(d->refreshAlbumAction, SIGNAL(triggered()), d->view,
> SLOT(slotAlbumRefresh()));
>      actionCollection()->addAction("album_refresh", d->refreshAlbumAction);
>
>
> I guess this is wrong, since the refresh action is not working on all
> albums, only on the current one.

Change "all" to "current" or "selected"?

> -    d->zoomTo100percents = new KAction(KIcon("zoom-original"), i18n("Zoom
> to 1:1"), this);
> +    d->zoomTo100percents = new KAction(KIcon("zoom-original"), i18n("Zoom
> to Full"), this);
>      d->zoomTo100percents->setShortcut(Qt::ALT+Qt::CTRL+Qt::Key_0);      
> // NOTE: Photoshop 7 use ALT+CTRL+0
>      connect(d->zoomTo100percents, SIGNAL(triggered()), d->view,
> SLOT(slotZoomTo100Percents()));
>      actionCollection()->addAction("album_zoomto100percents",
> d->zoomTo100percents);
>
>
> I think we should keep it the way it is, this is a common term (or we could
> use "actual size" like in gwenview.

That works ("actual size"). 1:1 raised more questions around the office than
anything else.

> -    d->libsInfoAction = new KAction(KIcon("help-about"), i18n("Components
> info"), this);
> +    d->libsInfoAction = new KAction(KIcon("help-about"), i18n("Component
> info"), this);
>      connect(d->libsInfoAction, SIGNAL(triggered()), this,
> SLOT(slotComponentsInfo()));
>      actionCollection()->addAction("help_librariesinfo",
> d->libsInfoAction);
>
>
> Isn't there a plural for components? This dialog shows information for all
> used components, not only one.

It's not a word that is used plurally like that, in common usage. Component
isn't a super-common word, and when used, the "Components" is almost always
used possessively. Perhaps the word "Component" should be changed to something
more common.

> -    d->cameraSolidMenu->menuAction()->setText(i18n("Digital Cameras"));
> +    d->cameraSolidMenu->menuAction()->setText(i18n("Cameras
> (Auto-detected)"));
>      d->cameraSolidMenu->menuAction()->setIcon(KIcon("camera-photo"));
>      d->usbMediaMenu->menuAction()->setText(i18n("USB Storage Devices"));
>
> d->usbMediaMenu->menuAction()->setIcon(KIcon("drive-removable-media-usb"));
>      d->cardReaderMenu->menuAction()->setText(i18n("Card Readers"));
>
> d->cardReaderMenu->menuAction()->setIcon(KIcon("media-flash-smart-media"));
> -    d->manuallyAddedCamerasMenu->menuAction()->setText(i18n("Cameras Added
> Manually"));
> +    d->manuallyAddedCamerasMenu->menuAction()->setText(i18n("Cameras
> (Add)"));
>
> d->manuallyAddedCamerasMenu->menuAction()->setIcon(KIcon("preferences-other
>"));
>
>
> The first one is ok I think (not yet merged though in my branch), but the
> second might be wrong. This menu entry will list all manually added
> cameras, now it sounds like you can only add cameras here (which can of
> course, but it sounds more like an action now).

Yes, but the original is super-clunky. There shouldn't be a split at that
level. What does the user care how it was added?
The whole menu structure should probably be restructured, but as it was, it
was confusing to multiple people in the office.

>                  driveType = i18n("SD / MMC Card Reader");
>                  break;
>              case Solid::StorageDrive::Xd:
> -                driveType = i18n("xD-Picture Card Reader");
> +                driveType = i18n("xD Card Reader");
>                  break;
>
>
> The medium is called that way, but maybe a reading device is named
> differently? I don't actually know
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XD-Picture_Card)

Again, this caused confusion, because of the list and xD being the only one
that featured the word "Picture". Makes a non-technical user think "Well, can
I use an SD card for pictures?"

> -    QString msg = i18n("Image finger-prints computation can take a
> while.\n" -                       "What do you want to do?\n"
> -                       "- Scan for changed or non-recorded items in
> database\n"
> -                       "- Rebuild all fingerprints (long)");
> +    QString msg = i18n("The initial image fingerprinting can take some
> time.\n"
> +                       "Which would you prefer?\n"
> +                       "- Scan for changed or non-cataloged items in the
> database (quick)\n"
> +                       "- Rebuild all fingerprints (takes a long time)");
>
>
> This dialog will appear not only on first digiKam start, but every time
> when you hit "rebuild fingerprints". So I guess initial is a wrong term
> here?

No problem. Just remove the phrase "The initial" and cap the "i" in image.

> Again, this sounds like a lot of criticism, but it's not meant that way :-)
> I appreciate your work, but sometimes I'm not quite sure about some
> phrases.

Not a problem at all. I was mostly taking feedback from about 20 users in the
office and trying to smooth the experiences of them. For me, I mostly know how
to use DK so easily that I don't even notice the small things like "xD-Picture
card" and the like.

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[Bug 172899] Verbiage changes for digikamapp.cpp

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--- Comment #3 from Mikolaj Machowski <mikmach wp pl>  2008-10-16 15:25:44 ---
Ad 1:1 controversy

Maybe zoom to 100%? 100% is the most used term.

Ad xD

Shorter is better. xD Picture Card may be official name but we don't have to be
overcorrect.


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--- Comment #4 from Andi Clemens <andi clemens gmx net>  2008-10-16 15:52:24 ---
I've already merged xD short version...
About 1:1 (100%):
Is there a GUI guide somewhere describing what to use? Gwenview uses "Actual
Size" now, but the old version was "1:1" if I remember correctly.


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--- Comment #5 from Andi Clemens <andi clemens gmx net>  2008-10-16 16:29:10 ---
SVN commit 872187 by aclemens:

A small series of patches that fix a few english phrases
(thanks to Brendan Barry)

BUG:172882
BUG:172884
BUG:172892
BUG:172895
BUG:172898
BUG:172899

 M  +23 -23    digikam/digikamapp.cpp  
 M  +24 -25    digikam/digikamfirstrun.cpp  
 M  +15 -15    showfoto/setup/setupeditor.cpp  
 M  +8 -8      tips  
 M  +7 -8      utilities/imageeditor/tools/imageresize.cpp  
 M  +1 -1      utilities/setup/setup.cpp  
 M  +1 -2      utilities/setup/setupalbumview.cpp  
 M  +18 -18    utilities/setup/setupcollections.cpp  
 M  +7 -7      utilities/setup/setupmetadata.cpp  
 M  +44 -32    utilities/setup/setupmime.cpp  
 M  +3 -3      utilities/setup/setupmisc.cpp  
 M  +60 -60    utilities/setup/setupslideshow.cpp  


WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=872187


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--- Comment #6 from Andi Clemens <andi clemens gmx net>  2008-10-21 22:47:27 ---
SVN commit 874580 by aclemens:

sync new action name with imageeditor and showFoto

CCBUG:172899

 M  +1 -1      imageeditor/editor/editorwindow.cpp  
 M  +1 -1      lighttable/lighttablewindow.cpp  


WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=874580


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