[Bug 150265] New: advance search filter is missing search in comment / description

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           Summary: advance search filter is missing search in comment /
                    description
           Product: digikam
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: unspecified
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: NOR
         Component: general
        AssignedTo: digikam-devel kde org
        ReportedBy: nadavkav gmail com


Version:           0.9.2-final (using KDE 3.5.7, Debian Package 4:3.5.7.dfsg.1-5 (lenny/sid))
Compiler:          Target: i486-linux-gnu
OS:                Linux (i686) release 2.6.21-2-686

advance search' default is "keywords" which returns good search results, but i think it's missing search image's description/comment
(i'm a little confused with all the metadata fields names in EXIF/JPEG/IPTC/JFIF/DIGIKAM's DB...)
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------- Additional Comments From caulier.gilles gmail com  2007-09-27 16:35 -------
Arnd,

It's certainly a duplicate from B.K.O... A lots of reports about this subject have been already done in the past.

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------- Additional Comments From caulier.gilles gmail com  2007-09-27 16:37 -------
Nadav,

>(i'm a little confused with all the metadata fields names in >EXIF/JPEG/IPTC/JFIF/DIGIKAM's DB...)

Are you read the digiKam handbook ???

http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-graphics/digikam/using-sidebar.html#using-sidebarmetadata

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------- Additional Comments From arnd.baecker web de  2007-09-27 16:45 -------
Hmm, it seems that "Image caption" finds words given in the comment of
the image?
But also searching for "Keywords" works in the example I have set up
(Comment field of one image contains "blurb" and searching for "blurb").
Do you have an example where "keywords" and "Image caption"
given different results?

Gilles, what is the difference between "Image caption" and "Keywords"
in the advanced search?
Should "Image caption" be renamed to "Image comment" ?

The only slightly related bug under searches seems to be http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139283
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------- Additional Comments From caulier.gilles gmail com  2007-09-27 16:56 -------
Arnd,

Image Caption == image comment

In fact, "Caption" can be renamed as "Comments", if English term is fine to use. If yes, well the same change must be done with "Album Caption"

about "Keywords", well i'm not sure. I need to check source code.

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------- Additional Comments From nadavkav gmail com  2007-09-27 16:59 -------
when i edit the image's description it says "comments" on the right side tab.
are they JFIF/JPEG/EXIF/DIGIKAM's ? what does comments relate to ?
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Am Thursday 27 September 2007 schrieb Gilles Caulier:

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> ------- Additional Comments From caulier.gilles gmail com  2007-09-27 16:56
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> Image Caption == image comment
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> In fact, "Caption" can be renamed as "Comments", if English term is fine to
> use. If yes, well the same change must be done with "Album Caption"
>
> about "Keywords", well i'm not sure. I need to check source code.
>
> Gilles

Gilles, i think there is a big usability issue here, I understand that users
are confused. In particular there's no consistency between the search
vocabulary and the sidebars. We need to review this in detail.

For now I strongly suggest to use "caption" instead of comment. Caption
means 'title', 'story', 'explanation', 'comment', 'that what captures
interest' and more. It is the much more appropriate label. :-)

If you agree I change the labels in both svn.

my 5cents
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------- Additional Comments From gerhard kulzer net  2007-09-28 07:25 -------
Am Thursday 27 September 2007 schrieb Gilles Caulier:
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Gilles, i think there is a big usability issue here, I understand that users
are confused. In particular there's no consistency between the search
vocabulary and the sidebars. We need to review this in detail.

For now I strongly suggest to use "caption" instead of comment. Caption
means 'title', 'story', 'explanation', 'comment', 'that what captures
interest' and more. It is the much more appropriate label. :-)

If you agree I change the labels in both svn.

my 5cents
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Fully agree, consistency is very important here.

"Caption" instead of "comment" sounds also more consistent with
Iptc.Application2.Caption
(though less with Exif.Photo.UserComment)

In addition, is there a way to provide information (on a mouse over)
on the meaning of each field which can be searched for
in the advanced search?
(I.e. to avoid that normal users have to look up the code
about the meaning ;-)

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------- Additional Comments From arnd.baecker web de  2007-09-28 07:48 -------
Fully agree, consistency is very important here.

"Caption" instead of "comment" sounds also more consistent with
Iptc.Application2.Caption
(though less with Exif.Photo.UserComment)

In addition, is there a way to provide information (on a mouse over)
on the meaning of each field which can be searched for
in the advanced search?
(I.e. to avoid that normal users have to look up the code
about the meaning ;-)
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------- Additional Comments From caulier.gilles gmail com  2007-09-28 08:01 -------
To Gerhard,

I'm agree of course, let's go...

To Arnd,

On mouse over help is Qt ToolTips. It's really easy to code. Note that Qt provide also another way name WhatsThis. What the difference ? Tooltip is a small description of widget instead WhatsThis is a complete one.

ToolTip appears over a widget by a mouve over event.
WhatsThis appears when user use SHIFT+F1 or Help/Whats This option.

In Qt3 code is like this :

    d->saveTagsIptcBox = new QCheckBox(IptcGroup);
    d->saveTagsIptcBox->setText(i18n("&Save image tags as \"Keywords\" tag"));
    QToolTip::add( d->saveTagsIptcBox, i18n("Small descrition here"));
    QWhatsThis::add( d->saveTagsIptcBox, i18n("Full descrition here"));

In Qt4 code is like this :

    d->saveTagsIptcBox = new QCheckBox(IptcGroup);
    d->saveTagsIptcBox->setText(i18n("&Save image tags as \"Keywords\" tag"));
    d->saveTagsIptcBox->setTooltip( i18n("Small descrition here") );
    d->saveTagsIptcBox->setWhatsThis( i18n("Full descrition here") );
                                           
I try to provide at least a ToolTip everywhere on GUI and WhatsThis where user need more advanced informations. Generally, WhatsThis content is a duplicate of handbook.

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In searchwidgets.cpp one has
    m_key = new QComboBox( m_hbox, "key" );
    m_key->setSizePolicy( QSizePolicy::Fixed, QSizePolicy::Minimum );
    for (int i=0; i< RuleKeyTableCount; i++)
        m_key->insertItem( i18n(RuleKeyTable[i].keyText), i );

Of course it is no problem to add another description field
(e.g. `keyToolTip`) to the RuleKeyTable struct.
In the loop, would something like
       QToolTip::add( m_key->currentItem(),
                              i18n(RuleKeyTable[i].keyToolTip));
work on the entries of such a QComboBox?
(TheQComboBox Class Reference does not mention anything in this respect)

Looking at the contents
    { I18N_NOOP("Album"),            "album",
    { I18N_NOOP("Album Name"),       "albumname",
    { I18N_NOOP("Album Caption"),    "albumcaption",
    { I18N_NOOP("Album Collection"), "albumcollection"
    { I18N_NOOP("Tag"),              "tag",
    { I18N_NOOP("Tag Name"),         "tagname",
    { I18N_NOOP("Image Name"),       "imagename",
    { I18N_NOOP("Image Date"),       "imagedate",
    { I18N_NOOP("Image Caption"),    "imagecaption",
    { I18N_NOOP("Keyword"),          "keyword",
    { I18N_NOOP("Rating"),           "rating",

I think that only "Tag" vs. "Tag Name"
and "Image Caption" vs./and "Keyword" would require an explanation
(BTW: is the "Album collection" stuff gone in KDE4?).

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------- Additional Comments From arnd.baecker web de  2007-09-28 08:39 -------
In searchwidgets.cpp one has
    m_key = new QComboBox( m_hbox, "key" );
    m_key->setSizePolicy( QSizePolicy::Fixed, QSizePolicy::Minimum );
    for (int i=0; i< RuleKeyTableCount; i++)
        m_key->insertItem( i18n(RuleKeyTable[i].keyText), i );

Of course it is no problem to add another description field
(e.g. `keyToolTip`) to the RuleKeyTable struct.
In the loop, would something like
       QToolTip::add( m_key->currentItem(),
                              i18n(RuleKeyTable[i].keyToolTip));
work on the entries of such a QComboBox?
(TheQComboBox Class Reference does not mention anything in this respect)

Looking at the contents
    { I18N_NOOP("Album"),            "album",
    { I18N_NOOP("Album Name"),       "albumname",
    { I18N_NOOP("Album Caption"),    "albumcaption",
    { I18N_NOOP("Album Collection"), "albumcollection"
    { I18N_NOOP("Tag"),              "tag",
    { I18N_NOOP("Tag Name"),         "tagname",
    { I18N_NOOP("Image Name"),       "imagename",
    { I18N_NOOP("Image Date"),       "imagedate",
    { I18N_NOOP("Image Caption"),    "imagecaption",
    { I18N_NOOP("Keyword"),          "keyword",
    { I18N_NOOP("Rating"),           "rating",

I think that only "Tag" vs. "Tag Name"
and "Image Caption" vs./and "Keyword" would require an explanation
(BTW: is the "Album collection" stuff gone in KDE4?).
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------- Additional Comments From caulier.gilles gmail com  2007-09-28 10:06 -------
Arnd,

>work on the entries of such a QComboBox?
>(TheQComboBox Class Reference does not mention anything in this respect)

QComboBox is derivate from QWidget. We can associate a QToolTip/QWhatThis to all QWidget class, and of course this include all childrens class derivated from QWidget (C++)

>BTW: is the "Album collection" stuff gone in KDE4?

it already present in KDE3 code. Look Setup Collection page.

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------- Additional Comments From marcel.wiesweg gmx de  2007-10-02 19:56 -------
This is the zoo of image "captions/comments":

JFIF comment
EXIF user comment

Iptc Caption/Abstract
Dublin Core/Photoshop Description

Iptc/Photoshop Headline

Dublin Core/Photoshop Title
Iptc Object Name
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------- Additional Comments From caulier.gilles gmail com  2008-04-23 11:17 -------
Nadav,

Following recents progress into new Advanced Search tools from Marcel with KDE4 port, i close this file.

Search tools have been rewritten. Screenshots are available at this url:

http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/Screenshots/NewSearchTools

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------- Additional Comments From nadavkav gmail com  2008-04-23 12:04 -------
Gilles,
thanks :-)

i looked at the pictures, woo o ww  w  !

i am still using digikam with kde 3.5.x but i am looking forward
into moving into kde4 some time soon :-)
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------- Additional Comments From caulier.gilles gmail com  2008-04-23 12:22 -------
Nadav,

digiKam 0.10.0 will run with KDE3 desktop. We use only KDE4 shared libraries. No need to run whole KDE4 desktop (:=)))

Unlike you can read around KDE world over the web (dot.kde.org for Ex.) KDE4 desktop is not yet stable (This is my viewpoint as developper). This is why i have not planed to publish digiKam 0.10.0 just for KDE4.0.0. With my experience as developper and my work in open-source, I feel than KDE4 will be really suitable for 4.1 or 4.2 release. For Ex, i'm not sure than all printing capabilities will be restored for 4.1. Who will work with a desktop without printing options ???

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