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Stuart T Rogers
I am trying to get my wife moved over to Linux and using Digkam on our
laptop. The last thing I need to do is to have the photos displayed in
calendar mode (not album mode) and have digikam select the photos by
their creation date and not album date. The problem is that the folders
on disk have a much newer date than the actual creation date of the
photos which is there in the EXIF data, digikam is displaying photos for
say 2013 which are in albums (folders) created in 2013 but the photos
themselves have an EXIF create date of 2002.

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tosca
Why don't you simply use the Calendar view in Digikam. Pictures are automatically displayed/sorted by creation date (take, from the EXIF).

Marie-Noëlle


2014-01-25 Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]>
I am trying to get my wife moved over to Linux and using Digkam on our laptop. The last thing I need to do is to have the photos displayed in calendar mode (not album mode) and have digikam select the photos by their creation date and not album date. The problem is that the folders on disk have a much newer date than the actual creation date of the photos which is there in the EXIF data, digikam is displaying photos for say 2013 which are in albums (folders) created in 2013 but the photos themselves have an EXIF create date of 2002.

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Stuart T Rogers
That's what I am using, selecting Calendar from the leftmost side of the
main screen.

I have selected 2013 from the list, what is displayed as the first image
is a photo with an EXIF create date of 2010 and an Album date of 2013,
the display below the photo is the file name and a date of 9th June 2013
which is the file date. The next set of photos shown are all created in
2008 NOT 2013 but again have file dates of 2013 and an Album date of 2013.

So this view is NOT displaying the photos by EXIF create date but I
think by file date. So how can I change this please?

Stuart



On 25/01/14 14:23, Marie-Noëlle Augendre wrote:

> Why don't you simply use the Calendar view in Digikam. Pictures are
> automatically displayed/sorted by creation date (take, from the EXIF).
>
> Marie-Noëlle
>
>
> 2014-01-25 Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]
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>
>     I am trying to get my wife moved over to Linux and using Digkam on
>     our laptop. The last thing I need to do is to have the photos
>     displayed in calendar mode (not album mode) and have digikam select
>     the photos by their creation date and not album date. The problem is
>     that the folders on disk have a much newer date than the actual
>     creation date of the photos which is there in the EXIF data, digikam
>     is displaying photos for say 2013 which are in albums (folders)
>     created in 2013 but the photos themselves have an EXIF create date
>     of 2002.
>
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tosca
Select the pictures that have a wrong date, then Image -> AdjustTime&Date. In the box that opens, select EXIF:original as Timestamp used, and check whatever you want as Timestamp Updated.
You need at least Digikam timestamp so Digikam DB will be updated.
Then Apply.

Marie-Noëlle

2014-01-25 Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]>
That's what I am using, selecting Calendar from the leftmost side of the main screen.

I have selected 2013 from the list, what is displayed as the first image is a photo with an EXIF create date of 2010 and an Album date of 2013, the display below the photo is the file name and a date of 9th June 2013 which is the file date. The next set of photos shown are all created in 2008 NOT 2013 but again have file dates of 2013 and an Album date of 2013.

So this view is NOT displaying the photos by EXIF create date but I think by file date. So how can I change this please?

Stuart






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Stuart T Rogers
Marie-Noelle thanks for the advice.....

Well I'm having to do that for a huge number of photos. Considering this
is a new digikam install and a first time adding the photos to a new
database I am puzzled as to why it has not loaded them correctly first
time. This was a new install on a new hard drive of Fedora 20 64bit with
digikam 3.5.0.

Stuart

On 25/01/14 14:59, Marie-Noëlle Augendre wrote:

> Select the pictures that have a wrong date, then Image ->
> AdjustTime&Date. In the box that opens, select EXIF:original as
> Timestamp used, and check whatever you want as Timestamp Updated.
> You need at least Digikam timestamp so Digikam DB will be updated.
> Then Apply.
>
> Marie-Noëlle
>
> 2014-01-25 Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>
>     That's what I am using, selecting Calendar from the leftmost side of
>     the main screen.
>
>     I have selected 2013 from the list, what is displayed as the first
>     image is a photo with an EXIF create date of 2010 and an Album date
>     of 2013, the display below the photo is the file name and a date of
>     9th June 2013 which is the file date. The next set of photos shown
>     are all created in 2008 NOT 2013 but again have file dates of 2013
>     and an Album date of 2013.
>
>     So this view is NOT displaying the photos by EXIF create date but I
>     think by file date. So how can I change this please?
>
>     Stuart
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Arrange photos in calendar mode by create date

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On 01/25/2014 12:09 PM, Stuart T Rogers wrote:

> Marie-Noelle thanks for the advice.....
>
> Well I'm having to do that for a huge number of photos. Considering this
> is a new digikam install and a first time adding the photos to a new
> database I am puzzled as to why it has not loaded them correctly first
> time. This was a new install on a new hard drive of Fedora 20 64bit with
> digikam 3.5.0.
>
> Stuart
>
> On 25/01/14 14:59, Marie-Noëlle Augendre wrote:
>> Select the pictures that have a wrong date, then Image ->
>> AdjustTime&Date. In the box that opens, select EXIF:original as
>> Timestamp used, and check whatever you want as Timestamp Updated.
>> You need at least Digikam timestamp so Digikam DB will be updated.
>> Then Apply.
>>
>> Marie-Noëlle

Stuart, you might find this page useful:
http://perlmaven.com/image-exiftool-how-to-change-file-creation-date

The topic is using exiftool to change the file modify date to the create
date. This is a command line tool, to be used with caution because it
can do bad things very quickly if misused (practice on throwaway files).
But once you know the right command exiftool can take care of thousands
and thousands of file dates very quickly. So if you are not averse to
the command line, it's an option.

Here's the exiftool home page, which has a link to the forum:
http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/

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tosca
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I don't know what your Digikam settings are.
You can also try Tools -> Maintenance -> Sync Metadata and Database.

Marie-Noëlle


2014-01-25 Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]>
Marie-Noelle thanks for the advice.....

Well I'm having to do that for a huge number of photos. Considering this is a new digikam install and a first time adding the photos to a new database I am puzzled as to why it has not loaded them correctly first time. This was a new install on a new hard drive of Fedora 20 64bit with digikam 3.5.0.

Stuart





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Stuart T Rogers
Marie-Noelle I will try that and see if it fixes the problem.

Stuart

On 25/01/14 17:56, Marie-Noëlle Augendre wrote:

> I don't know what your Digikam settings are.
> You can also try Tools -> Maintenance -> Sync Metadata and Database.
>
> Marie-Noëlle
>
>
> 2014-01-25 Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>
>     Marie-Noelle thanks for the advice.....
>
>     Well I'm having to do that for a huge number of photos. Considering
>     this is a new digikam install and a first time adding the photos to
>     a new database I am puzzled as to why it has not loaded them
>     correctly first time. This was a new install on a new hard drive of
>     Fedora 20 64bit with digikam 3.5.0.
>
>     Stuart
>
>
>
>
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Stuart T Rogers
OK so doing as Marie-Noelle suggests corrects the image dates.

However (unless I have missed a setting somewhere) the calendar display
is still wrong when under some circumstances. Allow me to explain... I
have a Folder (Album to digikam) the date of which is 28/08/2013 but it
contains photos which are as early as 01/01/2013 and as late as
26/08/2013, this folder is displayed later in the year display than
folders of an earlier date containing photos from February 2013.

It seems to me that there is an assumption that the folder date will be
at least as early as the first photo contained therein. This maybe true
if a collection is generated by importing photos into digikam but not
always as the photos themselves maybe old. Also almost certainly not the
case where an existing set of photos which were managed outside of
digikam exist and digikam is merely pointed at a set of pre-existing
folders.

To my mind the calendar display should always display the photos from
every album in date order irrespective of the album date. If the album
needs to be identified it should be done by an option when right
clicking on or hovering over the image. At the very least this method
should be an option when using the calendar display.

Stuart

On 25/01/14 20:16, Stuart T Rogers wrote:

> Marie-Noelle I will try that and see if it fixes the problem.
>
> Stuart
>
> On 25/01/14 17:56, Marie-Noëlle Augendre wrote:
>> I don't know what your Digikam settings are.
>> You can also try Tools -> Maintenance -> Sync Metadata and Database.
>>
>> Marie-Noëlle
>>
>>
>> 2014-01-25 Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>>
>>     Marie-Noelle thanks for the advice.....
>>
>>     Well I'm having to do that for a huge number of photos. Considering
>>     this is a new digikam install and a first time adding the photos to
>>     a new database I am puzzled as to why it has not loaded them
>>     correctly first time. This was a new install on a new hard drive of
>>     Fedora 20 64bit with digikam 3.5.0.
>>
>>     Stuart
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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2014-01-26 Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]>

It seems to me that there is an assumption that the folder date will be at least as early as the first photo contained therein. This maybe true if a collection is generated by importing photos into digikam but not always as the photos themselves maybe old. Also almost certainly not the case where an existing set of photos which were managed outside of digikam exist and digikam is merely pointed at a set of pre-existing folders.

Have a look at Album Properties: you can set up album date as the Oldest / Average / Newest or any other date to you convenience.
 

To my mind the calendar display should always display the photos from every album in date order irrespective of the album date. If the album needs to be identified it should be done by an option when right clicking on or hovering over the image. At the very least this method should be an option when using the calendar display.

Stuart

You might want to check any setting available (Digikam configuration, View parameters and the like).
I've never used the album date, nor paid attention to it, and my calendar view displays every picture at its creation date.

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Stuart T Rogers
Thanks again for the suggestions, however setting a date for an album
does not resolve the issue.

My albums contain photos from various dates because they are grouped by
content and not date. Therefore splitting the calendar view by album is
for me useless, what I need is a calendar display which simply displays
all the photos in date/time order irrespective of which album they are
in or the date/time of that album.

As far as I can tell this is not possible. I'm fairly sure that in the
past in earlier versions of digikam this was the way the calendar view
worked.

Stuart

On 26/01/14 00:08, Marie-Noëlle Augendre wrote:

>
>
>
> 2014-01-26 Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>
>
>     It seems to me that there is an assumption that the folder date will
>     be at least as early as the first photo contained therein. This
>     maybe true if a collection is generated by importing photos into
>     digikam but not always as the photos themselves maybe old. Also
>     almost certainly not the case where an existing set of photos which
>     were managed outside of digikam exist and digikam is merely pointed
>     at a set of pre-existing folders.
>
>
> Have a look at Album Properties: you can set up album date as the Oldest
> / Average / Newest or any other date to you convenience.
>
>
>     To my mind the calendar display should always display the photos
>     from every album in date order irrespective of the album date. If
>     the album needs to be identified it should be done by an option when
>     right clicking on or hovering over the image. At the very least this
>     method should be an option when using the calendar display.
>
>     Stuart
>
> You might want to check any setting available (Digikam configuration,
> View parameters and the like).
> I've never used the album date, nor paid attention to it, and my
> calendar view displays every picture at its creation date.
>
> Marie-Noëlle
>
>
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2014-01-26 Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]>
what I need is a calendar display which simply displays all the photos in date/time order irrespective of which album they are in or the date/time of that album.

As far as I can tell this is not possible. I'm fairly sure that in the past in earlier versions of digikam this was the way the calendar view worked.

Stuart

That's how it works - and always have worked - for me (using 3.5.0 version with SQLite).
If your pictures don't appear at the right place in the calendar, their date are probably wrong in Digikam DB. That's why I advised to:
 1) check Digikam settings regarding metadata and dates
 2) modify the pictures that have a wrong date
 3) then save the modifications to the DB.

If all the metadata are in your picture files, it might be even quicker to move the DB file somewhere else, and start with a new database.


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Hi Stuart (and Gilles),

 

I think this could be considered a bug in the digikam calendar feature. Digikam should only look at the image EXiF dates, not at file dates, that kind of filtering is covered by search, and makes no sense in the calendar case.

 

On Lørdag den 25. januar 2014 13:47:03, Stuart T Rogers wrote:

> I am trying to get my wife moved over to Linux and using Digkam on our

> laptop. The last thing I need to do is to have the photos displayed in

> calendar mode (not album mode) and have digikam select the photos by

> their creation date and not album date. The problem is that the folders

> on disk have a much newer date than the actual creation date of the

> photos which is there in the EXIF data, digikam is displaying photos for

> say 2013 which are in albums (folders) created in 2013 but the photos

> themselves have an EXIF create date of 2002.

>

> Stuart

 

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Stuart T Rogers
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Well it is not working for me. I have started with a new DB this was a
first time install of digikam on this laptop. The images were already
all there in the hard drive in existing folders as they used to be
organised in different software which did not allow for a calendar view.
The images all now have correct dates as does the database.

The situation is that the images in a calendar view are organised first
by album with the earliest date, then the images in that album are
organised by date. This works fine if the albums all do not contain
images from a mixture of all dates and the album date is selected as
oldest. However as soon as the albums all contain a mixture of dates the
calendar view no longer displays all the images in proper chronological
order by image.

As I said earlier these albums are ordered by image content and as such
may contain images from various dates. So this design of calendar view
only works for one set of circumstances.

In my view any calendar view should display every image in the
collection purely in chronological order irrespective of the album
containing them.

Stuart

On 26/01/14 09:08, Marie-Noëlle Augendre wrote:

>
>
>
> 2014-01-26 Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>
>     what I need is a calendar display which simply displays all the
>     photos in date/time order irrespective of which album they are in or
>     the date/time of that album.
>
>     As far as I can tell this is not possible. I'm fairly sure that in
>     the past in earlier versions of digikam this was the way the
>     calendar view worked.
>
>     Stuart
>
> That's how it works - and always have worked - for me (using 3.5.0
> version with SQLite).
> If your pictures don't appear at the right place in the calendar, their
> date are probably wrong in Digikam DB. That's why I advised to:
>   1) check Digikam settings regarding metadata and dates
>   2) modify the pictures that have a wrong date
>   3) then save the modifications to the DB.
>
> If all the metadata are in your picture files, it might be even quicker
> to move the DB file somewhere else, and start with a new database.
>
>
> Marie-Noëlle
>
>
>
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Re: Arrange photos in calendar mode by create date

jdd@dodin.org
Le 26/01/2014 10:35, Stuart T Rogers a écrit :

> In my view any calendar view should display every image in the collection
> purely in chronological order irrespective of the album containing them.

can't you simply coipy these images on a new folder?

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Stuart T Rogers
Not a practical solution with 10000+ images and besides why should I,
software is supposed to make life easy.

Stuart

On 26/01/14 09:42, jdd wrote:
> Le 26/01/2014 10:35, Stuart T Rogers a écrit :
>
>> In my view any calendar view should display every image in the collection
>> purely in chronological order irrespective of the album containing them.
>
> can't you simply coipy these images on a new folder?
>
> jdd
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Re: Arrange photos in calendar mode by create date

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2014-01-26 Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]>

The situation is that the images in a calendar view are organised first by album with the earliest date, then the images in that album are organised by date. This works fine if the albums all do not contain images from a mixture of all dates and the album date is selected as oldest. However as soon as the albums all contain a mixture of dates the calendar view no longer displays all the images in proper chronological order by image.



Have you checked the View -> Group Images parameter? It should be on "Flat List" (F7 allows to select one of the three options in sequence).

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Once again Marie-Noelle great advice.... that was the one option I
needed to change and now my calendar view is back to what I wanted.

I suspect somewhere along the way the default of this option might have
changed with updates because I dont remember ever having to do anything
with this setting on my main desktop PC and it certainly had changed on
that PC but the images are organised differently there. On the fresh
install on the laptop it was set to By Album and not Flat List.

Thanks again for persevering with me....

Stuart

On 26/01/14 09:48, Marie-Noëlle Augendre wrote:

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>
>
> 2014-01-26 Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>
>
>     The situation is that the images in a calendar view are organised
>     first by album with the earliest date, then the images in that album
>     are organised by date. This works fine if the albums all do not
>     contain images from a mixture of all dates and the album date is
>     selected as oldest. However as soon as the albums all contain a
>     mixture of dates the calendar view no longer displays all the images
>     in proper chronological order by image.
>
>
>
> Have you checked the View -> Group Images parameter? It should be on
> "Flat List" (F7 allows to select one of the three options in sequence).
>
> Marie-Noëlle
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Re: Arrange photos in calendar mode by create date

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Le 26/01/2014 10:46, Stuart T Rogers a écrit :
> Not a practical solution with 10000+ images and besides why should I, software
> is supposed to make life easy.

for a calendar???

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Re: Arrange photos in calendar mode by create date

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I've been silently following this thread with interest, because of the same problem - and now it all makes sense.

Thanks Marie


On 26 January 2014 09:59, Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]> wrote:
Once again Marie-Noelle great advice.... that was the one option I needed to change and now my calendar view is back to what I wanted.

I suspect somewhere along the way the default of this option might have changed with updates because I dont remember ever having to do anything with this setting on my main desktop PC and it certainly had changed on that PC but the images are organised differently there. On the fresh install on the laptop it was set to By Album and not Flat List.

Thanks again for persevering with me....

Stuart


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2014-01-26 Stuart T Rogers <[hidden email]
<mailto:[hidden email]>>


    The situation is that the images in a calendar view are organised
    first by album with the earliest date, then the images in that album
    are organised by date. This works fine if the albums all do not
    contain images from a mixture of all dates and the album date is
    selected as oldest. However as soon as the albums all contain a
    mixture of dates the calendar view no longer displays all the images
    in proper chronological order by image.



Have you checked the View -> Group Images parameter? It should be on
"Flat List" (F7 allows to select one of the three options in sequence).


Marie-Noëlle

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