What's with this message deletion? I've not had it happen in prior
mails.
This whole thing of (seems to me) the Linux community abhorring HTML mail is beyond the pale. It's REALLY aggravating and only serves to limit the audience to The Chosen Few. It'll probably scrub this one, too. Paul [hidden email] wrote: Send Digikam-users mailing list submissions to [hidden email] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [hidden email] You can reach the person managing the list at [hidden email] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Digikam-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Digikam participation in KDE's Google Code-In? (Julien Narboux) 2. Re: Digikam participation in KDE's Google Code-In? (Johannes Wienke) 3. Re: Digikam participation in KDE's Google Code-In? (Gilles Caulier) 4. More on Windows and digiKam (Paul Verizzo) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:25:05 +0100 From: Julien Narboux [hidden email] Subject: [Digikam-users] Re: Digikam participation in KDE's Google Code-In? To: [hidden email] Message-ID: [hidden email] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Le 08/11/2010 11:22, Gilles Caulier a ?crit :2010/11/8 Julien Narboux[hidden email]:Gilles, I think it is a very good idea, maybe nsis could be used instead of a simple zip:It's not a simple zip. It's zip compression based on LZMA algorithm, better than ZIP KDE4 + digikam : ZIP : around 300 Mb KDE4 + digikam : ZIP : around 200 Mb See the difference (:=)))nsis also support LZMA see here: http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Featureshttp://nsis.sourceforge.net/Main_Page It is easy to add icons to the start menu, to register the application into windows etc...It's easy ? . I take a look to sample code : I don't understand this language... Thi sis why i used 7zip instead...maybe not that easy to do complex things, but writing a script by hand that supports adding things to the Windows registery is not that simple either. It may depend on windows version, if the user is "root" or not... JulienGilles------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 13:41:23 +0100 From: Johannes Wienke [hidden email] Subject: [Digikam-users] Re: Digikam participation in KDE's Google Code-In? To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source [hidden email] Message-ID: [hidden email] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" - Writing unit tests ;) - Once again an automatic dust and scratch reduction approach - A completely redesigned tagging workflow. The current integration in the right sidebar with Marcel's improvements still isn't sufficient to tag efficiently a lot of photos at once. - Statistic tools. We got a lot of data, why not generate some nice graphs and statistics from this, e.g. percentage of certain image formats or color types, geolocation-based stuff etc. Johannes On 11/08/2010 09:47 AM, Julien Narboux wrote:Some proposals: - updating the DigiKam handbook - creating in depth comparisons between DigiKam and other software Julien Le 08/11/2010 08:53, Gilles Caulier a ?crit :2010/11/6 Vivek Prakash <[hidden email] [hidden email]> Hello Digikam developers and users, I wanted to let you know a potential opportunity to leverage external resources to improve Digikam. This might be useful with Digikam 2.0 on the horizon. It's worth a look. Vivek Why not... We must talk about some taks to do in digiKam, not too complex. The thead is open. let's go to proposals... 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To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source [hidden email] Message-ID: [hidden email] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2010/11/8 Johannes Wienke [hidden email]:- Writing unit tests ;) - Once again an automatic dust and scratch reduction approach - A completely redesigned tagging workflow. The current integration in the right sidebar with Marcel's improvements still isn't sufficient to tag efficiently a lot of photos at once.The keyboard shorcuts approach is the best for that, as KMail do... Gilles ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 09:55:39 -0500 From: Paul Verizzo [hidden email] Subject: [Digikam-users] More on Windows and digiKam To: [hidden email] Message-ID: [hidden email] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Monday 08 November 2010 08:02:07 Paul Verizzo wrote:
> What's with this message deletion? I've not had it happen in prior mails. > > This whole thing of (seems to me) the Linux community abhorring HTML mail > is beyond the pale. The 'Linux community' abhors bloat and obfuscation. There is zero reason to send HTML emails other than to make your formatting 'pretty'. They are at least twice as big, usually more, than a regular text emails. They are unreadable by many email clients. Yes, some people still read their mail in a text console. They automatically load external references from the internet. They hide viruses. They add nothing of value. > It's REALLY aggravating And I find it aggravating sorting through useless bloated HTML emails. Many people filter them straight into the junk bin. There are sound reasons for doing so. > and only serves to limit the > audience to The Chosen Few. Actually, by insisting on HTML emails _you_ are limiting _your_ audience. This entire topic is beating a dead horse however. A simple google for 'html email harmful' will provide you many links worth of compelling arguments why technical minded folks don't like HTML emails. No matter which you prefer, and the relative merits thereof, the simple fact is the community you are trying to communicate with doesn't like HTML emails. Know your audience and respect them...when in Rome and all that. > > It'll probably scrub this one, too. > > Paul > Darren _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Shouldn't most mail clients that use HTML include both a text and an HTML version in the email so that other mail clients can display either?
Is this something new that's been turned on for the list, or is Paul's client doing something it didn't used to? Are entire emails being rejected, or just sections? Personally, I don't think HTML is worth the overhead, but there's too much out there to be discarding emails. -------------------------- Sent using BlackBerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren Kirby <[hidden email]> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]> Sent: Tue Nov 09 05:08:18 2010 Subject: [Digikam-users] Re: "An HTML attachment was scrubbed..." On Monday 08 November 2010 08:02:07 Paul Verizzo wrote: > What's with this message deletion? I've not had it happen in prior mails. > > This whole thing of (seems to me) the Linux community abhorring HTML mail > is beyond the pale. The 'Linux community' abhors bloat and obfuscation. There is zero reason to send HTML emails other than to make your formatting 'pretty'. They are at least twice as big, usually more, than a regular text emails. They are unreadable by many email clients. Yes, some people still read their mail in a text console. They automatically load external references from the internet. They hide viruses. They add nothing of value. > It's REALLY aggravating And I find it aggravating sorting through useless bloated HTML emails. Many people filter them straight into the junk bin. There are sound reasons for doing so. > and only serves to limit the > audience to The Chosen Few. Actually, by insisting on HTML emails _you_ are limiting _your_ audience. This entire topic is beating a dead horse however. A simple google for 'html email harmful' will provide you many links worth of compelling arguments why technical minded folks don't like HTML emails. No matter which you prefer, and the relative merits thereof, the simple fact is the community you are trying to communicate with doesn't like HTML emails. Know your audience and respect them...when in Rome and all that. > > It'll probably scrub this one, too. > > Paul > Darren _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
Le 08/11/2010 20:07, Peter Shute a écrit :
> Shouldn't most mail clients that use HTML include both a text and > an HTML version in the email so that other mail clients can display > either? yes, that's also for this that html mails are so big. Most linux mailing-lists reject html. As we have now also windows users, we have to educate them - not always easy and, please, answer, if necessary, *after* the part of the message you answer to, and remover the unnecessary one. thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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But if there's both an HTML and a text section, why not just strip out the HTML? I thought the issue here was problems reading the mail, not with the bandwidth use.
I'm not suggesting any changes to long standing arrangements, just wondering is this blocking has only just been turned on. There's absolutely no need for HTML in a list like this, but I think those who inadvertently try it need explanations and assistance, not blank rejections. Almost all Windows users have it configured by default without their knowledge. Users of Outlook, etc, I would suggest changing the setting to text mode, but with HTML replies to HTML emails. That's a reasonable compromise. And sorry, I'd dearly love to post/inter quote for you, but a Blackberry phone *cannot* do that. I have complained, and requested the development of an app to reformat to allow it, but no one appears interested, or to understand the need for it. -------------------------- Sent using BlackBerry ----- Original Message ----- From: jdd <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Sent: Tue Nov 09 06:25:26 2010 Subject: [Digikam-users] Re: "An HTML attachment was scrubbed..." Le 08/11/2010 20:07, Peter Shute a écrit : > Shouldn't most mail clients that use HTML include both a text and > an HTML version in the email so that other mail clients can display > either? yes, that's also for this that html mails are so big. Most linux mailing-lists reject html. As we have now also windows users, we have to educate them - not always easy and, please, answer, if necessary, *after* the part of the message you answer to, and remover the unnecessary one. thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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