Albums: how do you organize them?

[Sebastian Schubert-2]

Hi,

I'm just curious how you organize your albums in digikam. My idea is not to
just use the date -- I can get that automatically -- but to have albums like
that Party / Peter's Birthday 50th or holidays / 2010 Prague etc.

Maybe there are still better ideas out there.

Anyway, a bit off topic, this is my general workflow with bibble and geotag for
digikam:

http://nablasquared.wordpress.com/2010/04/23/raw-workflow-with-geotag-bibble-
and-digikam/

Comments also appreciated.

Cheers
Sebastian

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[Dick Angus-4]

On April 28, 2010 03:18:57 pm Sebastian Schubert wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I'm just curious how you organize your albums in digikam. My idea is not to

> just use the date -- I can get that automatically -- but to have albums

> like that Party / Peter's Birthday 50th or holidays / 2010 Prague etc.

>

> Maybe there are still better ideas out there.

>

> Anyway, a bit off topic, this is my general workflow with bibble and geotag

> for digikam:

>

> http://nablasquared.wordpress.com/2010/04/23/raw-workflow-with-geotag-bibbl

> e- and-digikam/

>

> Comments also appreciated.

>

> Cheers

> Sebastian

>

I keep major folders by year and then Family, Friends, Christmas, etc. under those. Tags then allow you to collect all Birthdays, or all pictures of friend Bob.
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[pshute]

I organise by year then by date, with the event or location appended to the folder name. E.g. 2010/2010-04-22XyzBeach.



The year folders means there aren't thousands of folders to scroll through, and the day folders mean I can go straight from my diary to the right folder. I visit the same locations so often that organising by location would mean too many photos in one folder.



Appending the location or event to the folder name is just a convenience, I add a location tag too.



Organising by date also reduces the chance of file name clashes when the cameras run out of numbers and start from 1 again.





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Hi,



I'm just curious how you organize your albums in digikam. My idea is not to

just use the date -- I can get that automatically -- but to have albums like

that Party / Peter's Birthday 50th or holidays / 2010 Prague etc.



Maybe there are still better ideas out there.



Anyway, a bit off topic, this is my general workflow with bibble and geotag for

digikam:



http://nablasquared.wordpress.com/2010/04/23/raw-workflow-with-geotag-bibble-

and-digikam/



Comments also appreciated.



Cheers

Sebastian

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[gerlos]

Il giorno 28/apr/2010, alle ore 23.18, Sebastian Schubert ha scritto:

> Hi,
>
> I'm just curious how you organize your albums in digikam. My idea is not to
> just use the date -- I can get that automatically -- but to have albums like
> that Party / Peter's Birthday 50th or holidays / 2010 Prague etc.


Actually, if you use tags for topics, editing, people and locations, you can get automatically list of photos matching that tags (just to answer the question: "I want to see all of my shots of trees"), so it' (almost) the same.
After downloading and purging the worst images, the first thing I always do is tagging my images.

At the moment I prefer to organize my albums/directories in a tree like this:
<year>
        <date>-description
        <date>-description
Since for me it's easier to remember that I shot some images in a certain date than any other.
This way I can find photos also using my file manager (dolphin), and it's easier to manage backups (I put on a DVD a set of albums taken one after the other).

regards
gerlos

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[Photonoxx]

Le Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:18:57 +0200, Sebastian Schubert  
<[hidden email]> a écrit:

> Hi,
>
> I'm just curious how you organize your albums in digikam. My idea is not  
> to
> just use the date -- I can get that automatically -- but to have albums  
> like
> that Party / Peter's Birthday 50th or holidays / 2010 Prague etc.
>
> Maybe there are still better ideas out there.
>
> Anyway, a bit off topic, this is my general workflow with bibble and  
> geotag for
> digikam:
>
> http://nablasquared.wordpress.com/2010/04/23/raw-workflow-with-geotag-bibble-
> and-digikam/
>
> Comments also appreciated.
>
> Cheers
> Sebastian

Hi,

Personally, I use exiftool to import my NEF pictures from memorycard. It  
uses only one command line to do this and it organize my NEF files like  
this :

NefFolder/Year/month/>my pictures renamed like :  
nb-photos-year-month-day_hours-minutes-seconds(+ an eventual number to  
differentiate photos taken the same second).

As I shoot the most of the time landscape and "non-events" pictures, the  
family, birthday, etc, are outside of this folder, and not very much  
organized. For the main part of the photos, in the ideal scheme, I use  
firstly digikam to view all my pictures, at this time I delete the worse,  
and eventually, give some star to the best ones.

If the pictures are linked to a particular place, I geotag their (all  
photos, not only these with star) with digikam, and add a tag of this kind  
:
/country/NameOfTheCountry/NameOfTheRegion/NameOfTheDepartment/NameOfTheTown/NameOfThePlace

I don't use all steps each time (especially, region and department are  
only used for location in France, Town is use only when I'm in one...  
etc...)

And after, I use some tag for particular kind of picture like... Insects,  
Trees, Lanscape, Flower, etc...
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> If the pictures are linked to a particular place, I geotag
> their (all photos, not only these with star) with digikam,
> and add a tag of this kind
> :
> /country/NameOfTheCountry/NameOfTheRegion/NameOfTheDepartment/
> NameOfTheTown/NameOfThePlace
>
> I don't use all steps each time (especially, region and
> department are only used for location in France, Town is use
> only when I'm in one...  
> etc...)
>
> And after, I use some tag for particular kind of picture
> like... Insects, Trees, Lanscape, Flower, etc...

I didn't mention my tagging system.  I try to keep it fairly heirarchical to avoid having too many tags in the list to choose from, i.e. so I can collapse the branches I'm not using.  I put people's names under a /people branch, mammals under a /animals/mammals branch, reptiles under /animals/reptiles, etc.  

Birds, which I mainly photograph have a more complex system.  They are in /animals/birds, then the letters a-z, being the initial letter or each species "name group", then the name groups, then the common names.  E.g. /animals/birds/s/Shoveler/Northern Shoveler.  The heirarchy is not set up to indicate any kind of relationship between the species, it's purely to help me find the tags easily.  Scolling through a list of 1000s of species sorted alphabetically by the first part of the name is not helpful.  In that particular example, if the heirarchy is all collapsed, I only need to expand 4 branches then scan through a short list of shovelers (just 2 in my country).
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[Daniel Bauer-2]

On Friday 30 April 2010 08.13:19, Photonoxx wrote:

> Le Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:18:57 +0200, Sebastian Schubert
> <[hidden email]> a écrit:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm just curious how you organize your albums in digikam. My idea is not
> > to just use the date -- I can get that automatically -- but to have albums
> > like that Party / Peter's Birthday 50th or holidays / 2010 Prague etc.
> >
> > Maybe there are still better ideas out there.
> >

I guess organizing the folders is a very personal task and it depends on how
you use digikam, and for what purposes. I for my self still havn't found the
ideal way, I have to move the files quite often, but hey, I am not a genious
organizer...

So this mail contains a description of my complicated workflow I use at
present. Maybe its of interest to someone. If not just forget it and delete
without reading the long story below :-)

I always shoot raw + middle size/quality jpg and have many more images than
space on my laptop...

I have two things that are important for grouping my files:
- what/who is it
- what is the state of the images (unselected, selected, etc.)

I copy the card to my desktop and rename that folder with the number of the
card in chronological order (100EOS5D_1 for the first card, ..._2 for the
second..). Then I rename the file-numbers using mc according to the folder
number ( IMG_0* = img_1* in folder ..._1 etc.). This way the original file-
numbers/chronology is preserved and I don't have double numbers within one
session (I always begin with No. 1 on a card).

Then I make a new folder on the deskop, with the name of the model or client.
Within this folder a subfolder with the date and in there two subfolders for
cr2 and jpg:

- Model_or_Client_Name
  - Session_2010_04_30
    - original_cr2
    - original_jpg

I copy this to 2 external HD's.

In digikam I have a complicated structure:

- new_sessions
- do_it_later
- in_work_progress

- personal_stuff + subfolders
- uncategorized (divers) + subfolders
- publications + subfolders
- clients + subfolders
- models + subfolders

I import only original_jpg into digikam:
new_sessions/Model_or_Client_Name/Session_date/original_jpg.
then delete the folders on the desktop.

Here I do the time consuming selection. I mark similar images, from which I
want to select 1, and open them with kuickshow. I can then have always 2
images side by side, keep the better one and close the other one, compare the
left over one with the next one etc. I remember the number(s) of the last left
over one(s), close them, unmark them in digikam and move the rest to a
"unused" subfolder.

Finally I divide and move the rest into several "series" subfolders. Then I
use digikam editor to click thru each series. Sometimes I have to remove
another one and move it to "unused" or take one back from unsused into the
series.

When finished, I delete the "unused"-folder and move the complete
Model_or_Client_Name/Session_date/original_jpg/subfolders into
in_work_progress

Using a script I now copy all the needed cr2-files from my external backup
into my virtual-windows-shared-folder. I develop the raw files using Canons
software in Windows-XP running in VirtualBox. I don't change anything else
here, just adjust the white balance, colors and brightness, removing "grain"
when using high ISO settings.

Again using a simple script I copy the developped TIFFs, converted to png, to
a new folder
in_work_progress/Model_or_Client_Name/Session_date/edited

Now I go thru this folder, using digikam editor to do cropping, color
enhancement, converting to black-and-white etc. When retouching or work on
parts of the image only is needed, I open gimp (I miss right-click, open-
with... within the editor...). I also use gimp for curves.

After finishing all the editing again I use a simple script (using
imagemagick) to convert the pngs to jpgs (sometimes of different sizes),
insert my copyright mark, and distribute the files to their series subfolders.

I backup in_work_progress/Model_or_Client_Name/Session_date/edited, delete the
pngs , and move the folders to clients or models.

So in the end the images stay here:

- models
  - Model_Name_X
    - Session_date
      - series_name_a (herein original file-site jpgs)
        - 800px
        - 1500px
        - etc.
      - series_name_b (herein original file-site jpgs)
        - ...
    - Session_date
      - ...
  - Model_Name_Y
    - ...

From finished images no more original files or editable pngs are in digikam.
They are all on backups only and I have to get them from there if once needed
again or to send to publishers that want more than jpgs.

This workflow uses a lot of moving, which on system base is no problem, but
digikam doesn't really like my way of doing it... It punishes me with long,
long waiting times and sometimes crashes.

I use this complicated workflow because I must find the photos under the name
of the client or model, plus I must know, if I already edited them or not.
Unfortunately most of the time I cannot select/edit the photos of a session
right on, so I cannot avoid the copying from and to external HDs - otherwise
my labtops HD would overflow...

I don't want to use tags anymore. It was too unstable in the past, it was too
complicated to change many tags at a time, I don't want the tags in the image
files that will go to other people. I tried to use tags for embeding
"keywords" into web-images, but as google etc. don't look at image-tags, I
strip all tags anyway. I don't use flickr etc, where tags might help to
organize or give infos. I can also imagine, that for personal use, tags can be
very helpful.

I rarely use the stars, and if then only temporarily during selection. In the
end I only have "good enough" or "waste", no "almost good enough", "maybe
waste" etc..., so the image is in digikam and usable, or it's deleted...

However, I *never* delete raw files on my backups. I want to preserve the
complete sessions and who knows, what I think about "good" when I (or somebody
else) looks at the session years later. If we then still have energy to run
our computers :-)

So this is my novel of the day. Hope it was not too time consuming for you....

have fun!

Daniel
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my new blog: http://www.guapamania.com/wordpress/
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[Martin (KDE)]

Am Mittwoch, 28. April 2010 schrieb Sebastian Schubert:
> Hi,
>
> I'm just curious how you organize your albums in digikam. My idea
> is not to just use the date -- I can get that automatically -- but
> to have albums like that Party / Peter's Birthday 50th or holidays
> / 2010 Prague etc.

Usually I organize my photos in a directory by year and at least one
other category (lets say 2010/Frankfurt). Additionally I use some
folders for special events like vacation, marriages, birthdays.

Parallel to the folders I tag all my photos with three major groups:
- location
- persons
- subject
with various subtags. Every now and then I reorganize my tags. To find
some vacation photos I usually use the folder view. To search for
persons I mostly use the tag view. I currently use a mix of folder and
tags to find my photos.

Since this year I use the renaming feature of digikam during import
but I don't use the filename for searching.

I don't like the year/month/day aproach for storing my photos.
Sometimes I have to use other programs than digikam and I don't
remeber very well what I have done on 2009-08-14. And with the
timeline feature I can access the photos at a specific date much
faster.

>
> Maybe there are still better ideas out there.
>
> Anyway, a bit off topic, this is my general workflow with bibble
> and geotag for digikam:
>
> http://nablasquared.wordpress.com/2010/04/23/raw-workflow-with-geot
> ag-bibble- and-digikam/
>
> Comments also appreciated.
>
> Cheers
> Sebastian

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[Micha Neubauer]

> Hi,
>
> I'm just curious how you organize your albums in digikam.

Many of you organise your photos with tags, very often they seem to be organised
hierarchically. Do you then tag the whole hierarchy or just the lowest one?
For example: Europe/France/Paris/Montmartre

Do you give the picture taken in Montmartre also the Tag Europe and France and Paris or do
you have this hierarchical tree only for sorting your tags?
Of course Montmartre is in Europe and Paris and in France. But tagging all of it is much
more work than only the one tag Montmartre. Or is there a way of automatically applying
tag to everything in higher hierarchy?
Then later on I might decide to move the Montmartre tag away from Paris and put it under
Europe/France/Hills/Montmartre. What happens then to the tags which are written in the
metadata (IPTC or XMP)? When I always tag the whole hierarchy it is a lot of work and
might end in a mess. But when I only tag Montmartre, I do not have an easy possibility to
just filter all images of Paris or France.
Is there maybe an automatic way of which I don't know to dissolve the hierarchies
afterwards again?

I have started tagging my photos almost two years ago, then stopped and now I want to
start again. But I realize now that the system I was using back then was not very good, so
I am just thinking on how to improve it; to have something which can help me also in 10
years maybe

Cheers
micha

               
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[Sebastian Schubert-2]

Hi Micha,

On Friday 30 April 2010 22:44:55 Micha Neubauer wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm just curious how you organize your albums in digikam.
>
> Many of you organise your photos with tags, very often they seem to be
> organised hierarchically. Do you then tag the whole hierarchy or just the
> lowest one? For example: Europe/France/Paris/Montmartre
...
> Then later on I might decide to move the Montmartre tag away from Paris and
> put it under Europe/France/Hills/Montmartre. What happens then to the tags
> which are written in the metadata (IPTC or XMP)? When I always tag the
> whole hierarchy it is a lot of work and might end in a mess. But when I
> only tag Montmartre, I do not have an easy possibility to just filter all
> images of Paris or France.

There is the possibility to get all Paris pics. Just right click on "My tags"
and choose Select -> Children on Paris. You can also make this the default:
Toggle Auto -> Children. So guess your question is answered. ;) At least I tag
only the very last item, Montmartre in this case.

HTH,
Sebastian

PS: @others: Thanks for the input, I'll try a bit and describe the result
later.

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[jim junk]

There are two taging system.  The older IPTC and the newer XMP.  In the right window you can click on METADATA and see the tags for both types.  The IPTC tags don't support hierarchies but the XMP tags do.  So if you need to have IPTC tags then you need to click on each item in the hierarchy but if XMP is what you want then just click on the last item int the hierarchy and you get everything above it.

The great thing about hierarchical tags is that you can come in anywhere in the hierarchy and get everything below that point.  So to use your example in the Europe/France/Paris/Montmartre tag you could go to the left window>Tags>click on Paris and you would get all the tags and images that are below that level including Montmartre.  You could also click on France and get all of the tags and images below that hierarchy including Paris and Montmartre.

If you move the tag like you mentioned the old tag is erased and a new tag created and if you have Digikam set up right the changes will be written to both the database and to the images.
You could however just create a new tag and still have the Paris query option.

I highly recommend experimenting with tags and comments and templates as they don't always seem to work the way I think they will.  That's probably my problem but remember that we can always change things by reordering the heirarchy and we can use the existing tags to assist us.

. 

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> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 09:22:44 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] Albums: how do you organize them?
>
> Hi Micha,
>
> On Friday 30 April 2010 22:44:55 Micha Neubauer wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm just curious how you organize your albums in digikam.
> >
> > Many of you organise your photos with tags, very often they seem to be
> > organised hierarchically. Do you then tag the whole hierarchy or just the
> > lowest one? For example: Europe/France/Paris/Montmartre
> ...
> > Then later on I might decide to move the Montmartre tag away from Paris and
> > put it under Europe/France/Hills/Montmartre. What happens then to the tags
> > which are written in the metadata (IPTC or XMP)? When I always tag the
> > whole hierarchy it is a lot of work and might end in a mess. But when I
> > only tag Montmartre, I do not have an easy possibility to just filter all
> > images of Paris or France.
>
> There is the possibility to get all Paris pics. Just right click on "My tags"
> and choose Select -> Children on Paris. You can also make this the default:
> Toggle Auto -> Children. So guess your question is answered. ;) At least I tag
> only the very last item, Montmartre in this case.
>
> HTH,
> Sebastian
>
> PS: @others: Thanks for the input, I'll try a bit and describe the result
> later.

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[jim junk]

I use different methods at home and at work.  At work I use Windows Live Photo Organizer (wlpo).  I haven't been able to get Digikam to play nice with Windows XP.  I have wlpo download the images from the camera.  Wlpo groups the photos according to the date and time they were taken and then lets me have an option to add a name.  I generally use a name to describe the location of the photos and wlpo automaticly adds the date and time so I can add any name I want and still have a unique folder name.

I have wlpo place the photo folders on the desktop were they will remain until they are ready to be archived.  First I delete the bad photos then I use wlpo to create the panorama photos.  I work in a large park in the state of Florida, USA and many of the photos I take are to document what a place looks like in a particulate place and time and panorama photos are best for that.

Next I geocode all the images using Copic photo mapper.  Photo mapper uses a tack log gpx file from from a GPS unit that was recording the location at the time the photos were taken.  Photo Mapper takes the date and time on the photo and uses that to find the location for that date and time in the track log and then writes the lat/Lon to the photo.

Next I tag the photos.  I use lots of tags and most are hierarchical.  Sometimes I use the comment field to add additional information that might not be readily apparent from looking at the photo.  Then last I move the folder in to the photo archive and I'm done.

The important point is that I never use the name of the folder that the photos are in to find or locate photos.  I always use the tags to find what I'm looking for.  As I have Microsoft search 4.0 on my office computer I can use boolean searches in Microsoft search to find photos by searching for tags and never have to open wlpo.

At home I use a somewhat similar procedure except that I use Digikam to tag, organize and geocode photos.  I use Gebabbel to download the track file from the GPS as a GPX file.  At home I generally give the folders a place name (the place the photo was taken) and some of the places have a hierarchy; that is nested folders.  So I have folders like Georgia 2007 and Wyoming 2008.  Both of those folders are found in a folder hierarchy like Places/Georgia/Georgia 2007 and Places/ Wyoming/Wyoming 2008.  Yes I could just use the year but the folders started out not being in a hierarchy.  I use a template to add standard boiler plate to the photos.  Many of the folder names have a year added on the end but not all.  Mostly I use tags to find the images I'm looking for.

Remember as most images are geocoded with lat/lon I can use Digikams Map Search to find images taken at different locations.  This feature alone can justify why you want to use Digikam.  I absolutely love that feature; GO DIGIKAM!  Now if I could only get it to play well with XP at work.

> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:18:57 +0200
> Subject: [Digikam-users] Albums: how do you organize them?
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm just curious how you organize your albums in digikam. My idea is not to
> just use the date -- I can get that automatically -- but to have albums like
> that Party / Peter's Birthday 50th or holidays / 2010 Prague etc.
>
> Maybe there are still better ideas out there.
>
> Anyway, a bit off topic, this is my general workflow with bibble and geotag for
> digikam:
>
> http://nablasquared.wordpress.com/2010/04/23/raw-workflow-with-geotag-bibble-
> and-digikam/
>
> Comments also appreciated.
>
> Cheers
> Sebastian

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[Sebastian Schubert-2]

On Thursday 29 April 2010 23:20:24 gerlos wrote:
> Il giorno 28/apr/2010, alle ore 23.18, Sebastian Schubert ha scritto:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm just curious how you organize your albums in digikam. My idea is not
> > to just use the date -- I can get that automatically -- but to have
> > albums like that Party / Peter's Birthday 50th or holidays / 2010 Prague
> > etc.

> At the moment I prefer to organize my albums/directories in a tree like
> this: <year>
> <date>-description
> <date>-description

I think I'll do it similarly. Not the very perfect solution (Silvester party
should belong in one folder, not two, ...), nonetheless rather fast to use and
convenient to use.

I updated my blog correspondingly.

Thanks to everybody's input!

Sebastian

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[Milan Knížek]

jim junk píše v So 01. 05. 2010 v 15:49 -0400:

The great thing about hierarchical tags is that you can come in anywhere in the hierarchy and get everything below that point.  So to use your example in the Europe/France/Paris/Montmartre tag you could go to the left window>Tags>click on Paris and you would get all the tags and images that are below that level including Montmartre.  You could also click on France and get all of the tags and images below that hierarchy including Paris and Montmartre.

The trouble with classical tags is that each person can have a different structure.

I still use the IPTC location fields (location, city, state, country), the only trouble is that digiKam does not support mass tagging - one has to tag images one by one.

there is a bug reported:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144858

More about IPTC XMP schema:
http://www.iptc.org/std/Iptc4xmpCore/1.0/documentation/Iptc4xmpCore_1.0-doc-CpanelsUserGuide_13.pdf

Geo-tagging is nice, but it refers to a particular spot on the globe, not area, and cannot be searched by location names using current tools - maybe in the future, who knows.

This is a major show-stopper for me, so I had to adjust my workflow and tag only JPEG images, while keeping untagged raw files in a subfolder. For IPTC location fields I use MaPiVi (very effective tool, but supports only JPEGs). Then I reread metadata in digiKam and use normal keyword tagging in digiKam.

If the support for IPTC does not improve in digiKam, I may have to convert my 10 years archive to regular keywords to make the workflow simpler... :-(

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Milan Knizek
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Yes I see how this could be frustrating.  Can you use templates to add the IPTC data.  Using templates may not really work but they at least have all of the fields.  This may in fact be a silly idea as I don't use RAW and never used IPTC so my ignorance may be showing.

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jim junk píše v So 01. 05. 2010 v 15:49 -0400:

The great thing about hierarchical tags is that you can come in anywhere in the hierarchy and get everything below that point.  So to use your example in the Europe/France/Paris/Montmartre tag you could go to the left window>Tags>click on Paris and you would get all the tags and images that are below that level including Montmartre.  You could also click on France and get all of the tags and images below that hierarchy including Paris and Montmartre.

The trouble with classical tags is that each person can have a different structure.

I still use the IPTC location fields (location, city, state, country), the only trouble is that digiKam does not support mass tagging - one has to tag images one by one.

there is a bug reported:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144858a

More about IPTC XMP schema:
http://www.iptc.org/std/Iptc4xampCore/1.0/documentation/Iptc4xmpCore_1.0-doc-CpanelsUserGuide_13.pdf

Geo-tagging is nice, but it refers to a particular spot on the globe, not area, and cannot be searched by location names using current tools - maybe in the future, who knows.

This is a major show-stopper for me, so I had to adjust my workflow and tag only JPEG images, while keeping untagged raw files in a subfolder. For IPTC location fields I use MaPiVi (very effective tool, but supports only JPEGs). Then I reread metadata in digiKam and use normal keyword tagging in digiKam.

If the support for IPTC does not improve in digiKam, I may have to convert my 10 years archive to regular keywords to make the workflow simpler... :-(

regards,

Milan Knizek
knizek (dot) confy (at) volny (dot) cz
http://www.milan-knizek.net - About linux and photography (Czech language only)

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Il giorno 02/mag/2010, alle ore 03.05, jim junk ha scritto:

> The important point is that I never use the name of the folder that the photos are in to find or locate photos.  I always use the tags to find what I'm looking for.  As I have Microsoft search 4.0 on my office computer I can use boolean searches in Microsoft search to find photos by searching for tags and never have to open wlpo.

I hope that in a not so far day we could do similar searches in KDE using Nepomuk!

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jim junk píše v St 05. 05. 2010 v 20:29 -0400:
> Yes I see how this could be frustrating.  Can you use templates to add
> the IPTC data.  Using templates may not really work but they at least
> have all of the fields.  This may in fact be a silly idea as I don't
> use RAW and never used IPTC so my ignorance may be showing.
>
The templates are too rigid - imagine tagging your pictures using
templates, you would probably give up soon.

What I am planning to do is to (i) migrate all existing IPTC locations
fields to a hierarchical keyword structure as used by digiKam, (ii) use
the digiKam interface to add location keywords to images (as any other
tags), (iii) before archiving, copy the location keywords also to IPTC
location fields.

Where (i) and (iii) could be done by a script outside of digiKam,
possibly also taking care about proper conversion of UTF-8 to plain
ASCII in the latter step.

regards,

Milan Knizek
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language only)

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