visual indication of active filters?

[Gilles Caulier-4]

2008/2/1, Gerhard Kulzer <[hidden email]>:

On Friday 01 February 2008 Gilles Caulier wrote:
> 2008/2/1, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
> >
> >
> >
> > 2008/2/1, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2008/2/1, Mikolaj Machowski <[hidden email]>:
> > > >
> > > > Dnia Friday 01 of February 2008, Gilles Caulier napisał:
> > > > > Red color is to indicate than something is wrong, dangerous, etc...
> > > > >
> > > > > This is not the case here. Is just to ping user than filters are
> > > > active.
> > > > > Orange is better for that... But it's just my viewpoint...
> > > > >
> > > > > Mik, Gerhard ?
> > > >
> > > > Nice idea. Few ideas for improvements.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Visual: lack of left-, top-margins looks ugly. LED should be
> > > > centered
> > > >    in status bar.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ah, i'm happy to read these word. This is you Mik (:=)))
> > >
> > > Yes, the widget is not centered... And this is not my fault. The widget
> > > come from kdelibs and this is another one badly implemented. The widget
> > > drawing method always use the top/left corner as reference. Content is never
> > > centered like an usual widget...
> > >
> > > I have fight against to find an alternative, but without rea
> > >
> >
> > Oups cuttered words here (:=)))
> >
> > I have fight against to find an alternative, but without success. I'm
> > shared to waste time again this layout problem using KLed widget as well or
> > tho re-implement it into digiKam core...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2. Still not sure about colors. For me most  logical would be:
> > > >    - greyed out for inactive filters
> > > >    - green/orange for active filters
> > > >    - red when filters caused that there are no images in view
> > >
> > >
> > Sound like the idea to have a visual feedback about filtering match. icon
> > view is not enough as well ?
> >
> > About the colors, your schema sound like text search widget background
> > color scheme...
> >
>
> Ok, done in svn with rev. #769396.
>
> Please test, and report.
>
> To Native English guys : this sentence is fine to details LED from status
> bar :
>
>     QWhatsThis::add(d->led, i18n("This light report icon-view filters
> status. "
>                                  "This include all status-bar filters and
> all Tag-Filters from right sidebar. "
>                                  "If this light is red, at least one filter
> is active, and no item match the query. "
>                                  "If this light is green, at least one
> filter is active, and at least one item match the query. "
>                                  "If this light is gray, nothing is
> filtered. "
>                                  "Click over with mouse button to reset all
> filters."));
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
    QWhatsThis::add(d->led, i18n("This LED indicates the global image filter status, "
                                 "encompassing all status-bar filters and all tag filters from the right sidebar.\n\n"
                                 "GRAY: no filter is active, all items are visible.\n"
                                 "RED: filtering is on, but no items match.\n"
                                 "GREEN: filter(s) matches at least one item.\n\n"
                                 "Any mouse button click will reset all filters."));


Commit will follow

Including KDE4 code ? (:=)))

Gilles

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[Arnd Baecker]

On Fri, 1 Feb 2008, Gilles Caulier wrote:
[...]
> Please test, and report.

Works fine, with a lot of nice features (i.e. which filters
are active, even including the tags-filter) - excellent stuff -
thanks a lot!
(On the cosmetic side there is only that the LED is
pretty large and therefore slightly cut-off. But it is visible, and
that's the most important bit!)

Best, Arnd
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[Gilles Caulier-4]

I have created a new blog entry about LED :

http://www.digikam.org/?q=node/296

Gilles

2008/2/1, Arnd Baecker <[hidden email]>:

On Fri, 1 Feb 2008, Gilles Caulier wrote:
[...]
> Please test, and report.

Works fine, with a lot of nice features (i.e. which filters
are active, even including the tags-filter) - excellent stuff -
thanks a lot!
(On the cosmetic side there is only that the LED is
pretty large and therefore slightly cut-off. But it is visible, and
that's the most important bit!)

Best, Arnd
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Dnia Friday 01 of February 2008, Gilles Caulier napisał:

> 2008/2/1, Mikolaj Machowski <[hidden email]>:
> > Dnia Friday 01 of February 2008, Gilles Caulier napisał:
> > > Red color is to indicate than something is wrong, dangerous, etc...
> > >
> > > This is not the case here. Is just to ping user than filters are
> > > active. Orange is better for that... But it's just my viewpoint...
> > >
> > > Mik, Gerhard ?
> >
> > Nice idea. Few ideas for improvements.
> >
> > 1. Visual: lack of left-, top-margins looks ugly. LED should be
> > centered in status bar.
>
> Ah, i'm happy to read these word. This is you Mik (:=)))
>
> Yes, the widget is not centered... And this is not my fault. The widget
> come from kdelibs and this is another one badly implemented. The widget
> drawing method always use the top/left corner as reference. Content is
> never centered like an usual widget...

During years of observing of other computer users I noticed one really
strange thing (I am not sarcastic or ironic here, this is  really
strange for me). Application may be stripped from features, may crash
each five minutes, may even have terrible usability but if it has pretty
interface, widgets placed perfectly to last pixel people will use it
"because it is good looking". This works the other way: if application
looks bad, misplaced widgets, not native interface, not common
interface, etc users will never feel comfortable with it. Each mishap
- even obviously caused with PEBKAC - will be always placed on "that
strange program".

So, I am always trying to point deficiencies in that arena.

m.

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

2008/2/1, Mikolaj Machowski <[hidden email]>:

Dnia Friday 01 of February 2008, Gilles Caulier napisał:
> 2008/2/1, Mikolaj Machowski <[hidden email]>:
> > Dnia Friday 01 of February 2008, Gilles Caulier napisał:
> > > Red color is to indicate than something is wrong, dangerous, etc...
> > >
> > > This is not the case here. Is just to ping user than filters are
> > > active. Orange is better for that... But it's just my viewpoint...
> > >
> > > Mik, Gerhard ?
> >
> > Nice idea. Few ideas for improvements.
> >
> > 1. Visual: lack of left-, top-margins looks ugly. LED should be
> > centered in status bar.
>
> Ah, i'm happy to read these word. This is you Mik (:=)))
>
> Yes, the widget is not centered... And this is not my fault. The widget
> come from kdelibs and this is another one badly implemented. The widget
> drawing method always use the top/left corner as reference. Content is
> never centered like an usual widget...

During years of observing of other computer users I noticed one really
strange thing (I am not sarcastic or ironic here, this is  really
strange for me). Application may be stripped from features, may crash
each five minutes, may even have terrible usability but if it has pretty
interface, widgets placed perfectly to last pixel people will use it
"because it is good looking". This works the other way: if application
looks bad, misplaced widgets, not native interface, not common
interface, etc users will never feel comfortable with it. Each mishap
- even obviously caused with PEBKAC - will be always placed on "that
strange program".

I'm totally agree. GUI construction is always big job to do and are generally studied by specialist with an amount of user reports.

This is the only way to have a confortable program for everybody, and in this case opensource workflow is really well adapted, if it's used properlly (team must have a good communication with users and vice versa).

At home i have a great gui tester : my wife (:=)))

Gilles

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Dnia Friday 01 of February 2008, Gilles Caulier napisał:
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> Ok, done in svn with rev. #769396.
>
> Please test, and report.

Many thanks. Everything looks great :)

m.

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