Hi,
I have a Pentax K10d and I shoot in Raw format primarily. I've done some research and found that the version of dcraw that digikam uses is 8.41 which does not yet support this format, but version 8.69, which is the newest, does. I looked through the online svn and found instructions for updating the dcraw.c file and followed them using the source rpm for digikam 9.1 and modifying the dcraw.c file and putting it where it goes. digikam rebuilds fine and works and I can see the .PEF files and view them, but if I try to edit them in showfoto I get a dialog saying the version of digikamdcraw is too old. I have looked through all the source to see what showfoto is looking for to determine version of digikamdcraw, but I can't find anything in the new file that would break the version check. does anyone have any ideas of how to get this to work? thanks Scott _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
Forget this way. digiKam 0.9.2 will use libkdcraw witch include dcraw.c 8.60. This one support Pentax K10D.
digiKam 0.9.2 is under developement on svn trunk. We have planed to release during June. Gilles Caulier 2007/4/9, scott chevalley <[hidden email]>: Hi, _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
Thanks... any idea of when the svn trunk will be far along enough to test?
Gilles Caulier wrote: > Forget this way. digiKam 0.9.2 will use libkdcraw witch include > dcraw.c 8.60. This one support Pentax K10D. > > digiKam 0.9.2 is under developement on svn trunk. We have planed to > release during June. > > Gilles Caulier > > > 2007/4/9, scott chevalley <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>: > > Hi, > > I have a Pentax K10d and I shoot in Raw format primarily. I've done > some research and found that the version of dcraw that digikam uses is > 8.41 which does not yet support this format, but version 8.69 , > which is > the newest, does. I looked through the online svn and found > instructions for updating the dcraw.c file and followed them using the > source rpm for digikam 9.1 and modifying the dcraw.c file and > putting it > where it goes. > > digikam rebuilds fine and works and I can see the .PEF files and view > them, but if I try to edit them in showfoto I get a dialog saying the > version of digikamdcraw is too old. I have looked through all the > source to see what showfoto is looking for to determine version of > digikamdcraw, but I can't find anything in the new file that would > break > the version check. > > does anyone have any ideas of how to get this to work? > > thanks > Scott > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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I forget to said than updateing dcraw.c in digikam core is not enough because with dcraw 8.42, the command line parameters have changed. This is why digiKam/ showfoto does'nt work.
The libkdcraw have an interface witch is adapted with the new dcraw command line parameters... Gilles 2007/4/9, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]>: Forget this way. digiKam 0.9.2 will use libkdcraw witch include dcraw.c 8.60. This one support Pentax K10D. _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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2007/4/9, scott chevalley <[hidden email]>: Thanks... any idea of when the svn trunk will be far along enough to test? Well, I working hard actually to finalise some part, for exmaple to have a zoom/scrooling function in preview mode. Here, i use it in production. It do not crash. The implementation need to be polished before to do the first beta1... You can install both version in your computer. Look the script on web project page : http://www.digikam.org/?q=download/svn Gilles Gilles Caulier wrote: _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Le Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:04:20 -0400, scott chevalley a écrit:
> Hi, > > I have a Pentax K10d and I shoot in Raw format primarily. I've done > some research and found that the version of dcraw that digikam uses is > 8.41 which does not yet support this format, but version 8.69, which is > the newest, does. I looked through the online svn and found > instructions for updating the dcraw.c file and followed them using the > source rpm for digikam 9.1 and modifying the dcraw.c file and putting it > where it goes. > > digikam rebuilds fine and works and I can see the .PEF files and view > them, but if I try to edit them in showfoto I get a dialog saying the > version of digikamdcraw is too old. I have looked through all the > source to see what showfoto is looking for to determine version of > digikamdcraw, but I can't find anything in the new file that would break > the version check. > > does anyone have any ideas of how to get this to work? > > thanks > Scott Hi, You can apply this patch against dcraw 8.69 that make it works with digikam 0.9.1 by maintaining the interface just like 8.41 (and backporting bilateral noise filter feature used by digikam dialog) : http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/dcraw/files/dcraw-8.69-backward- compat.patch Then : - either integrate the patched version of dcraw in digikam 0.9.1 as you did ; - or use this patch http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/digikam/files/ digikam-0.9.1-external-dcraw.patch against digikam 0.9.1 to use external backported dcraw (I personally prefer this solution, even if it force me to maintain myself backward compatibility of dcraw to work with the current digikam version) Other solution of course is as Gilles said to use svn version that integrate a more recent version of dcraw Chears, Guillaume -- cdlt, Guillaume Castagnino _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
bad news with dcraw.c >= 8.61 license under Debian. Look here :
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dcraw/+bug/86480 This is want mean than dcraw and others programs witch use this implementation (like UFRAW for example) wil be not available in the future into Debian & co (:=((( About digiKam 0.9.2, Following Achim Bohnet tips, i have temporally frozen dcraw.c implementation into libkdcraw to 8.60. i waiting changes from dcraw author... I hope than an issue will be found int the future... Gilles 2007/4/10, Guillaume Castagnino <[hidden email]>: Le Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:04:20 -0400, scott chevalley a écrit: _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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> Le Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:04:20 -0400, scott chevalley a écrit: > > >> Hi, >> >> I have a Pentax K10d and I shoot in Raw format primarily. I've done >> some research and found that the version of dcraw that digikam uses is >> 8.41 which does not yet support this format, but version 8.69, which is >> the newest, does. I looked through the online svn and found >> instructions for updating the dcraw.c file and followed them using the >> source rpm for digikam 9.1 and modifying the dcraw.c file and putting it >> where it goes. >> >> digikam rebuilds fine and works and I can see the .PEF files and view >> them, but if I try to edit them in showfoto I get a dialog saying the >> version of digikamdcraw is too old. I have looked through all the >> source to see what showfoto is looking for to determine version of >> digikamdcraw, but I can't find anything in the new file that would break >> the version check. >> >> does anyone have any ideas of how to get this to work? >> >> thanks >> Scott >> > > Hi, > > You can apply this patch against dcraw 8.69 that make it works with > digikam 0.9.1 by maintaining the interface just like 8.41 (and > backporting bilateral noise filter feature used by digikam dialog) : > http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/dcraw/files/dcraw-8.69-backward- > compat.patch > > Then : > - either integrate the patched version of dcraw in digikam 0.9.1 as you > did ; > - or use this patch http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/digikam/files/ > digikam-0.9.1-external-dcraw.patch against digikam 0.9.1 to use external > backported dcraw (I personally prefer this solution, even if it force me > to maintain myself backward compatibility of dcraw to work with the > current digikam version) > > Other solution of course is as Gilles said to use svn version that > integrate a more recent version of dcraw > > Chears, > Guillaume > > dcraw-8.69-backward-compat patch to dcraw and then apply the external dcraw patch to digikam, which would then allow my to just keep the external dcraw updated instead of having to rebuild digikam when dcraw was updated... Am I understanding correctly? Thanks Scott _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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I'm not sure I understand what the issues is with the license... I read
the thread below, but it really didn't explain why debian has an issue with the license in dcraw>=8.61... could you explain it for a license idiot like me? :) thanks scott Gilles Caulier wrote: > bad news with dcraw.c >= 8.61 license under Debian. Look here : > > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dcraw/+bug/86480 > > This is want mean than dcraw and others programs witch use this > implementation (like UFRAW for example) wil be not available in the > future into Debian & co (:=((( > > About digiKam 0.9.2, Following Achim Bohnet tips, i have temporally > frozen dcraw.c implementation into libkdcraw to 8.60. i waiting > changes from dcraw author... > > I hope than an issue will be found int the future... > > Gilles > > 2007/4/10, Guillaume Castagnino <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>>: > > Le Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:04:20 -0400, scott chevalley a écrit: > > > Hi, > > > > I have a Pentax K10d and I shoot in Raw format primarily. I've done > > some research and found that the version of dcraw that digikam > uses is > > 8.41 which does not yet support this format, but version 8.69, > which is > > the newest, does. I looked through the online svn and found > > instructions for updating the dcraw.c file and followed them > using the > > source rpm for digikam 9.1 and modifying the dcraw.c file and > putting it > > where it goes. > > > > digikam rebuilds fine and works and I can see the .PEF files and > view > > them, but if I try to edit them in showfoto I get a dialog > saying the > > version of digikamdcraw is too old. I have looked through all the > > source to see what showfoto is looking for to determine version of > > digikamdcraw, but I can't find anything in the new file that > would break > > the version check. > > > > does anyone have any ideas of how to get this to work? > > > > thanks > > Scott > > Hi, > > You can apply this patch against dcraw 8.69 that make it works with > digikam 0.9.1 by maintaining the interface just like 8.41 (and > backporting bilateral noise filter feature used by digikam dialog) : > http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/dcraw/files/dcraw-8.69-backward- > <http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/dcraw/files/dcraw-8.69-backward-> > compat.patch > > Then : > - either integrate the patched version of dcraw in digikam 0.9.1 > as you > did ; > - or use this patch > http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/digikam/files/ > <http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/digikam/files/> > digikam-0.9.1-external-dcraw.patch against digikam 0.9.1 to use > external > backported dcraw (I personally prefer this solution, even if it > force me > to maintain myself backward compatibility of dcraw to work with the > current digikam version) > > Other solution of course is as Gilles said to use svn version that > integrate a more recent version of dcraw > > Chears, > Guillaume > > -- > cdlt, > Guillaume Castagnino > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > <https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
*): *If you have not modified dcraw.c in any way, a link to my
homepage qualifies as "full source code". does digikam modify dcraw.c? if not, then no issues. if so, why? libkdcraw should handle any/all messy parms to dcraw.c >From: scott chevalley <[hidden email]> >Reply-To: digiKam - Digital Photo Management for the masses ><[hidden email]> >To: digiKam - Digital Photo Management for the masses ><[hidden email]> >Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] updating dcraw for Pentax K10D PEF format >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:54:29 -0400 > >I'm not sure I understand what the issues is with the license... I read >the thread below, but it really didn't explain why debian has an issue >with the license in dcraw>=8.61... > >could you explain it for a license idiot like me? :) > >thanks >scott > >Gilles Caulier wrote: > > bad news with dcraw.c >= 8.61 license under Debian. Look here : > > > > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dcraw/+bug/86480 > > > > This is want mean than dcraw and others programs witch use this > > implementation (like UFRAW for example) wil be not available in the > > future into Debian & co (:=((( > > > > About digiKam 0.9.2, Following Achim Bohnet tips, i have temporally > > frozen dcraw.c implementation into libkdcraw to 8.60. i waiting > > changes from dcraw author... > > > > I hope than an issue will be found int the future... > > > > Gilles > > > > 2007/4/10, Guillaume Castagnino <[hidden email] > > <mailto:[hidden email]>>: > > > > Le Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:04:20 -0400, scott chevalley a écrit: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a Pentax K10d and I shoot in Raw format primarily. I've >done > > > some research and found that the version of dcraw that digikam > > uses is > > > 8.41 which does not yet support this format, but version 8.69, > > which is > > > the newest, does. I looked through the online svn and found > > > instructions for updating the dcraw.c file and followed them > > using the > > > source rpm for digikam 9.1 and modifying the dcraw.c file and > > putting it > > > where it goes. > > > > > > digikam rebuilds fine and works and I can see the .PEF files and > > view > > > them, but if I try to edit them in showfoto I get a dialog > > saying the > > > version of digikamdcraw is too old. I have looked through all the > > > source to see what showfoto is looking for to determine version of > > > digikamdcraw, but I can't find anything in the new file that > > would break > > > the version check. > > > > > > does anyone have any ideas of how to get this to work? > > > > > > thanks > > > Scott > > > > Hi, > > > > You can apply this patch against dcraw 8.69 that make it works with > > digikam 0.9.1 by maintaining the interface just like 8.41 (and > > backporting bilateral noise filter feature used by digikam dialog) : > > http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/dcraw/files/dcraw-8.69-backward- > > ><http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/dcraw/files/dcraw-8.69-backward-> > > compat.patch > > > > Then : > > - either integrate the patched version of dcraw in digikam 0.9.1 > > as you > > did ; > > - or use this patch > > http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/digikam/files/ > > <http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/digikam/files/> > > digikam-0.9.1-external-dcraw.patch against digikam 0.9.1 to use > > external > > backported dcraw (I personally prefer this solution, even if it > > force me > > to maintain myself backward compatibility of dcraw to work with the > > current digikam version) > > > > Other solution of course is as Gilles said to use svn version that > > integrate a more recent version of dcraw > > > > Chears, > > Guillaume > > > > -- > > cdlt, > > Guillaume Castagnino > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Digikam-users mailing list > > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > > <https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Digikam-users mailing list > > [hidden email] > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > > > >_______________________________________________ >Digikam-users mailing list >[hidden email] >https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users Fine Dining & Fancy Food. Check Out This Collection Of Good Eats. http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca/?v=2&cid=A6D6BDB4586E357F!378 _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
Well, digikam does modify dcraw.c a little, but even so, the source is
distributed in the archive. I'm not sure where the issues is. Other than the line below which says that you can use a link to the website if you don't modify dcraw.c, which is rather lenient, I can't see how this upsets debian. Scott Sami Cokar wrote: > *): *If you have not modified dcraw.c in any way, a link to my > homepage qualifies as "full source code". > > does digikam modify dcraw.c? if not, then no issues. > > if so, why? libkdcraw should handle any/all messy parms to dcraw.c > > >> From: scott chevalley <[hidden email]> >> Reply-To: digiKam - Digital Photo Management for the masses >> <[hidden email]> >> To: digiKam - Digital Photo Management for the masses >> <[hidden email]> >> Subject: Re: [Digikam-users] updating dcraw for Pentax K10D PEF format >> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:54:29 -0400 >> >> I'm not sure I understand what the issues is with the license... I read >> the thread below, but it really didn't explain why debian has an issue >> with the license in dcraw>=8.61... >> >> could you explain it for a license idiot like me? :) >> >> thanks >> scott >> >> Gilles Caulier wrote: >> > bad news with dcraw.c >= 8.61 license under Debian. Look here : >> > >> > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dcraw/+bug/86480 >> > >> > This is want mean than dcraw and others programs witch use this >> > implementation (like UFRAW for example) wil be not available in the >> > future into Debian & co (:=((( >> > >> > About digiKam 0.9.2, Following Achim Bohnet tips, i have temporally >> > frozen dcraw.c implementation into libkdcraw to 8.60. i waiting >> > changes from dcraw author... >> > >> > I hope than an issue will be found int the future... >> > >> > Gilles >> > >> > 2007/4/10, Guillaume Castagnino <[hidden email] >> > <mailto:[hidden email]>>: >> > >> > Le Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:04:20 -0400, scott chevalley a écrit: >> > >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > I have a Pentax K10d and I shoot in Raw format primarily. >> I've done >> > > some research and found that the version of dcraw that digikam >> > uses is >> > > 8.41 which does not yet support this format, but version 8.69, >> > which is >> > > the newest, does. I looked through the online svn and found >> > > instructions for updating the dcraw.c file and followed them >> > using the >> > > source rpm for digikam 9.1 and modifying the dcraw.c file and >> > putting it >> > > where it goes. >> > > >> > > digikam rebuilds fine and works and I can see the .PEF files and >> > view >> > > them, but if I try to edit them in showfoto I get a dialog >> > saying the >> > > version of digikamdcraw is too old. I have looked through >> all the >> > > source to see what showfoto is looking for to determine >> version of >> > > digikamdcraw, but I can't find anything in the new file that >> > would break >> > > the version check. >> > > >> > > does anyone have any ideas of how to get this to work? >> > > >> > > thanks >> > > Scott >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > You can apply this patch against dcraw 8.69 that make it works >> with >> > digikam 0.9.1 by maintaining the interface just like 8.41 (and >> > backporting bilateral noise filter feature used by digikam >> dialog) : >> > >> http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/dcraw/files/dcraw-8.69-backward- >> > >> <http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/dcraw/files/dcraw-8.69-backward-> >> > compat.patch >> > >> > Then : >> > - either integrate the patched version of dcraw in digikam 0.9.1 >> > as you >> > did ; >> > - or use this patch >> > http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/digikam/files/ >> > <http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/digikam/files/> >> > digikam-0.9.1-external-dcraw.patch against digikam 0.9.1 to use >> > external >> > backported dcraw (I personally prefer this solution, even if it >> > force me >> > to maintain myself backward compatibility of dcraw to work with >> the >> > current digikam version) >> > >> > Other solution of course is as Gilles said to use svn version that >> > integrate a more recent version of dcraw >> > >> > Chears, >> > Guillaume >> > >> > -- >> > cdlt, >> > Guillaume Castagnino >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Digikam-users mailing list >> > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >> > <https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users> >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Digikam-users mailing list >> > [hidden email] >> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Digikam-users mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > > _________________________________________________________________ > Fine Dining & Fancy Food. 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Le Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:52:31 -0400, scott chevalley a écrit:
> Guillaume Castagnino wrote: >> Hi, >> >> You can apply this patch against dcraw 8.69 that make it works with >> digikam 0.9.1 by maintaining the interface just like 8.41 (and >> backporting bilateral noise filter feature used by digikam dialog) : >> http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/dcraw/files/dcraw-8.69-backward- >> compat.patch >> >> Then : >> - either integrate the patched version of dcraw in digikam 0.9.1 as you >> did ; >> - or use this patch http://gentoo.xwing.info/media-gfx/digikam/files/ >> digikam-0.9.1-external-dcraw.patch against digikam 0.9.1 to use >> external backported dcraw (I personally prefer this solution, even if >> it force me to maintain myself backward compatibility of dcraw to work >> with the current digikam version) >> >> Other solution of course is as Gilles said to use svn version that >> integrate a more recent version of dcraw >> >> Chears, >> Guillaume >> >> > So if I understand correctly, I would apply the > dcraw-8.69-backward-compat patch to dcraw and then apply the external > dcraw patch to digikam, which would then allow my to just keep the > external dcraw updated instead of having to rebuild digikam when dcraw > was updated... > > Am I understanding correctly? Yes you are :) This is what I use to use an up to date dcraw successfully with digikam. But this needs to rework the dcraw-8.69-backward-compat patch each time dcraw is updated to maintain the interface so that digikam can handle it correctly. And while digikam is not updated, you cannot benefits from the new dcraw noise filter within digikam for example since it's not manage in the current digikam interface. Yes, using an external program with moving interface is really nasty :) I have a dream, where Dave Coffin would build his program like a library with a stable interface ;) Regards, Guillaume -- cdlt, Guillaume Castagnino _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Le Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:58:00 -0400, scott chevalley a écrit:
> Well, digikam does modify dcraw.c a little, but even so, the source is > distributed in the archive. I'm not sure where the issues is. Other > than the line below which says that you can use a link to the website if > you don't modify dcraw.c, which is rather lenient, I can't see how this > upsets debian. > > Scott > +1 Digikam is an open-source program, so the internal copy of dcraw, even modified, is provided with it's full source code. So the "(a)" condition is fully filled ! Where is the problem here ??? The license does not forbids to modify it... but just force the developpers to ensure that the source code is distributed, EVEN modified. I really do not undestand the problem, neither with digikam, nor with debian (which provides deb-src packages...). Regards, -- cdlt, Guillaume Castagnino _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
Well, please post your comments on Debian bugzilla (:=)))...
In libkdcraw, i just change a printf() in the main() of dcraw.c to handle properlly the camera Model and Maker. That all. Also, likdcraw provide a widget to setup RAW decoding settings. I have added a dynamic link to dcraw web project page in this widget, witch repect the Dave Coffin wish... Gilles 2007/4/11, Guillaume Castagnino <[hidden email]>: Le Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:58:00 -0400, scott chevalley a écrit: _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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