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Elle Stone
What determines the order in which tags appear in the tooltips?
It's not alphabetical, nor is it by the date the tag was created.

On the actual tag tree used for filtering and adding/removing tags,
the order is alphabetical. But the tooltip tag order seems random.

Also, for the tooltip, what determines which tags show the entire tag
tree/hierarchy and which tags only show the last tag in the hierarchy?
For example, for one image with 6 tags, four of the tags show the
entire tag tree/hierachy. Two of the tags only show the last tag in
the tree/hierarchy.

Same questions for the tags that are shown below the images.
Unfortunately, the tags I consider the most important are not showing
first, and most images don't have room to show at all in the tags that
appear below the image. Which means the information displayed beneath
the images is more of an annoyance than an actual help.

It would be nice if all tooltip tags and all the tags printed below
the images could be printed with or without the entire tag
tree/hierarchy, as specified in a user setting. Is there such a
setting that I've overlooked?

It would be really nice if the tooltip/below image tag order could be
specified by the user. A workaround would be if there were some way to
manipulate the order, say, by prepending a number. But the order of
appearance isn't alphabetical. So that won't work.

Kind regards,
Elle Stone
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Re: tooltip tag order, image tag display

Gilles Caulier-4
If i'm not too wrong there are listed as well, as database order sent data.

They can be at least sorted in alpha order. It's simple...

Gilles Caulier

2012/10/19 Elle Stone <[hidden email]>:

> What determines the order in which tags appear in the tooltips?
> It's not alphabetical, nor is it by the date the tag was created.
>
> On the actual tag tree used for filtering and adding/removing tags,
> the order is alphabetical. But the tooltip tag order seems random.
>
> Also, for the tooltip, what determines which tags show the entire tag
> tree/hierarchy and which tags only show the last tag in the hierarchy?
> For example, for one image with 6 tags, four of the tags show the
> entire tag tree/hierachy. Two of the tags only show the last tag in
> the tree/hierarchy.
>
> Same questions for the tags that are shown below the images.
> Unfortunately, the tags I consider the most important are not showing
> first, and most images don't have room to show at all in the tags that
> appear below the image. Which means the information displayed beneath
> the images is more of an annoyance than an actual help.
>
> It would be nice if all tooltip tags and all the tags printed below
> the images could be printed with or without the entire tag
> tree/hierarchy, as specified in a user setting. Is there such a
> setting that I've overlooked?
>
> It would be really nice if the tooltip/below image tag order could be
> specified by the user. A workaround would be if there were some way to
> manipulate the order, say, by prepending a number. But the order of
> appearance isn't alphabetical. So that won't work.
>
> Kind regards,
> Elle Stone
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Re: tooltip tag order, image tag display

Elle Stone
On 10/19/12, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:
> If i'm not too wrong there are listed as well, as database order sent data.
>

Hi Gilles,

My apologies, I don't understand - could you explain a bit what "there
are listed as well, as database order sent data" means?

> They can be at least sorted in alpha order. It's simple...

Do you mean the tag order as displayed by a tooltip upon hovering over
the image, can be sorted alphabetically? If so, how do you do this?

>
> Gilles Caulier
>
> 2012/10/19 Elle Stone <[hidden email]>:
>> What determines the order in which tags appear in the tooltips?
>> It's not alphabetical, nor is it by the date the tag was created.
>>
>> On the actual tag tree used for filtering and adding/removing tags,
>> the order is alphabetical. But the tooltip tag order seems random.
>>

Kind regards,
Elle Stone
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2012/10/19 Elle Stone <[hidden email]>:
> On 10/19/12, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> If i'm not too wrong there are listed as well, as database order sent data.
>>
>
> Hi Gilles,
>
> My apologies, I don't understand - could you explain a bit what "there
> are listed as well, as database order sent data" means?

For one item we query DB about properties, as tag. DB return a list of
strings which are not sorted...

>
>> They can be at least sorted in alpha order. It's simple...
>
> Do you mean the tag order as displayed by a tooltip upon hovering over
> the image, can be sorted alphabetically? If so, how do you do this?

Programing of course...

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Elle Stone
Hmm, programming. Does this mean I should file a feature request?

When looking at the image metadata I see that digiKam fills in quite a
few different metadata fields. IPTC Keywords and XMP Subject both just
show the actual "last tag" rather than the whole tag tree. Whereas XMP
Tags List and Hierarchical Subject show the entire tag tree.

At present, sometimes on the tooltip the whole tag tree is show, and
sometimes just the actual keyword. I don't see any pattern to when the
tooltip shows just the keyword, and when it shows the entire
tree/hierarchy.

It would be nice to have the option of just showing the keyword,
especially for those of us (I know I'm not the only one) who use
rather long hierarchies.

Kind regards,
Elle Stone

On 10/19/12, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:

> 2012/10/19 Elle Stone <[hidden email]>:
>> On 10/19/12, Gilles Caulier <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> If i'm not too wrong there are listed as well, as database order sent
>>> data.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Gilles,
>>
>> My apologies, I don't understand - could you explain a bit what "there
>> are listed as well, as database order sent data" means?
>
> For one item we query DB about properties, as tag. DB return a list of
> strings which are not sorted...
>
>>
>>> They can be at least sorted in alpha order. It's simple...
>>
>> Do you mean the tag order as displayed by a tooltip upon hovering over
>> the image, can be sorted alphabetically? If so, how do you do this?
>
> Programing of course...
>
> Gilles Caulier
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