raw and jpeg-files should "stick together"
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raw and jpeg-files should "stick together"
 
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Hi, with my Canon I'm making photos in jpeg and raw at the same time. So I have the same picture twice: IMG_1234.JPG and IMG_1234.RAW. I would love if Digikam could detect those twins and handle all file operations on those twins simultaneously. Moving the JPEG into another album should also move the raw-file. Deleting one of them should also delete the other file-type. Sorting pictures in Digikam could be much easier with that. Is there already any way to do this or do I have to open a feature request...? I'd also love if Digikam should be able to have "mirrored album paths" for that. I'd like to use my smaller, but fast SSD for my jpeg-files and my huge but slow SATA-disk for raw-files. So I'd love to have /home/peer/Pictures/album1/holidays/*.jpg and the "big brother" of that: /media/usb-disk/Pictures/album1/holidays/*.raw Creating a new album /home/peer/Pictures/album1/summer should also create /media/usb-disk/Pictures/album1/summer at the same time. Moving the jpeg-file into another album, should do the same with the twin-raw-file in the second path as explained before. Downloading files from my camera should sort put all jpeg-files into the path, the twin-raw-files into the second path. If for any reason there's just one file-type of a picture (e.g.: just a raw-file) Digikam should put the single file always into the main path. Peer -- Heinlein Support GmbH Schwedter Str. 8/9b, 10119 Berlin http://www.heinlein-support.de Tel: 030 / 405051-42 Fax: 030 / 405051-19 Zwangsangaben lt. §35a GmbHG: HRB 93818 B / Amtsgericht Berlin-Charlottenburg, Geschäftsführer: Peer Heinlein -- Sitz: Berlin _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
Re: raw and jpeg-files should "stick together"
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Am Sonntag, 17. Februar 2013, 11:57:10 schrieb Peer Heinlein: > Hi, > > with my Canon I'm making photos in jpeg and raw at the same time. So I > have the same picture twice: IMG_1234.JPG and IMG_1234.RAW. > > I would love if Digikam could detect those twins and handle all file > operations on those twins simultaneously. > > Moving the JPEG into another album should also move the raw-file. > Deleting one of them should also delete the other file-type. > > Sorting pictures in Digikam could be much easier with that. Is there > already any way to do this or do I have to open a feature request...? > > > I'd also love if Digikam should be able to have "mirrored album paths" > for that. I'd like to use my smaller, but fast SSD for my jpeg-files and > my huge but slow SATA-disk for raw-files. > > So I'd love to have > > /home/peer/Pictures/album1/holidays/*.jpg > > and the "big brother" of that: > > /media/usb-disk/Pictures/album1/holidays/*.raw > > Creating a new album > > /home/peer/Pictures/album1/summer > > should also create > > /media/usb-disk/Pictures/album1/summer > > at the same time. > > Moving the jpeg-file into another album, should do the same with the > twin-raw-file in the second path as explained before. > > Downloading files from my camera should sort put all jpeg-files into the > path, the twin-raw-files into the second path. If for any reason there's > just one file-type of a picture (e.g.: just a raw-file) Digikam should > put the single file always into the main path. > > Peer
Hi Peer,
it all depends on how you structured your directories. --------------------------------Year/
(TIFF / PNG because of 16-Bit-Quality)
This structure also provides backups best; my opinion.
In the Import section you can chose the Structure.
In your case it seems to be recommended to set a different structure. 1) /home/user/Pictures/ setting the mountpoints to
The thumbnails are, what you see outside the image editor.
1) But you don't need to know where the pictures are on your storage. _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
Re: raw and jpeg-files should "stick together"
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Am 17.02.2013 22:16, schrieb H. Jürgen Karbach:
Hi Jürgen, thanks for your long and helpful answer. Sounds good -- sounds like Digikam can already do what I need... > In the Import section you can chose the Structure. > > Based on camera provided information about the image date and choosen > file suffix of the pictures to be saved, digiKam can use this to > automatically create subalbums in the destination Album and move / copy > downloaded files. But I wasn't able to find the menue to set this up. I'm using Digikam 2.6.0 -- does this version already support that? Could you give me a hint where to find this option? > In your case it seems to be recommended to set a different structure. 1) > > /home/user/Pictures/ > --------------------------------RAW > --------------------------------TIFF, PNG or JPG Yipp! I'll do that! > As long as you move a file only with digiKam the RAW and JPG will stay > corelated. Great! Peer -- Heinlein Support GmbH Schwedter Str. 8/9b, 10119 Berlin http://www.heinlein-support.de Tel: 030 / 405051-42 Fax: 030 / 405051-19 Zwangsangaben lt. §35a GmbHG: HRB 93818 B / Amtsgericht Berlin-Charlottenburg, Geschäftsführer: Peer Heinlein -- Sitz: Berlin _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2013, 11:01:23 schrieb Peer Heinlein:
> Am 17.02.2013 22:16, schrieb H. Jürgen Karbach: > > > Hi Jürgen, > > thanks for your long and helpful answer. Sounds good -- sounds like > Digikam can already do what I need... > > > In the Import section you can chose the Structure. > > > > Based on camera provided information about the image date and choosen > > file suffix of the pictures to be saved, digiKam can use this to > > automatically create subalbums in the destination Album and move / copy > > downloaded files. > > But I wasn't able to find the menue to set this up. > > I'm using Digikam 2.6.0 -- does this version already support that? Could > you give me a hint where to find this option? 1. Connect our camera via USB or insert a memory-card. 2. Chose "Import" and then the device (cam or card) 3. Find on the right site the preferences of the import workflow. eventually you need to chose the preferences-tab on the right. I'm not sure, if it work well with your wanted structure: .../RAW then date-directories. Because there only checkboxes for suffix-based and date-based subdirectories. In my case - date over suffix - it works well. But don't know, if you can toggle this to suffix over date. in this side-window you can also select your prefered lossless file format. By creating a new collection and test-directories, you can pla and test digicams behaviour. > > > In your case it seems to be recommended to set a different structure. 1) > > > > /home/user/Pictures/ > > --------------------------------RAW > > --------------------------------TIFF, PNG or JPG > > Yipp! I'll do that! > > > As long as you move a file only with digiKam the RAW and JPG will stay > > corelated. > > Great! > > > Peer Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Hi Peer, hi Jürgen, for tagging pictures I always hoped Digikam would one day treat RAW and JPG file as virtually one file. So tagging this virtual file would set the same tags to both, the RAW and the JPG. With your solution of to part RAWs and JPGs to different subfolders, my photo collection might get a bit more "tidy" (I currently just hide the RAWs, as long as I do not need them). But how do you do tagging in this constellation? The only solution I can currently imagine is tagging only the JPG files and then do a tag based search by (1) find certain JPG by tag and remember the file's filename (2) switch to the RAW folder and search or the same filename (with RAW extension) Works well for one file - but how do you search for a bunch of files (e.g. a certain person with photos spread over different folders)? Do you have any experience with this? A hint would be great ;-) Thanks! Greetings, Den Am 20.02.2013 19:04, schrieb H. Jürgen Karbach: > Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2013, 11:01:23 schrieb Peer Heinlein: >> Am 17.02.2013 22:16, schrieb H. Jürgen Karbach: >> >> >> Hi Jürgen, >> >> thanks for your long and helpful answer. Sounds good -- sounds like >> Digikam can already do what I need... >> >>> In the Import section you can chose the Structure. >>> >>> Based on camera provided information about the image date and choosen >>> file suffix of the pictures to be saved, digiKam can use this to >>> automatically create subalbums in the destination Album and move / copy >>> downloaded files. >> But I wasn't able to find the menue to set this up. >> >> I'm using Digikam 2.6.0 -- does this version already support that? Could >> you give me a hint where to find this option? > 1. Connect our camera via USB or insert a memory-card. > 2. Chose "Import" and then the device (cam or card) > 3. Find on the right site the preferences of the import workflow. > eventually you need to chose the preferences-tab on the right. > > I'm not sure, if it work well with your wanted structure: > .../RAW then date-directories. > Because there only checkboxes for suffix-based and date-based subdirectories. > In my case - date over suffix - it works well. > But don't know, if you can toggle this to suffix over date. > > in this side-window you can also select your prefered lossless file format. > > By creating a new collection and test-directories, you can pla and test > digicams behaviour. >>> In your case it seems to be recommended to set a different structure. 1) >>> >>> /home/user/Pictures/ >>> --------------------------------RAW >>> --------------------------------TIFF, PNG or JPG >> Yipp! I'll do that! >> >>> As long as you move a file only with digiKam the RAW and JPG will stay >>> corelated. >> Great! >> >> >> Peer > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > > _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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On Wednesday 20 February 2013 22:16:58 Den wrote:
> Hi Peer, hi Jürgen, > > for tagging pictures I always hoped Digikam would one day treat RAW > and JPG > file as virtually one file. So tagging this virtual file would set the > same tags to > both, the RAW and the JPG. I totally agree here. Also for removing files, it would be nice to have a mechanism to delete the jpg and corresponding raw file in one go. Best, Wolfgang > > With your solution of to part RAWs and JPGs to different subfolders, > my photo > collection might get a bit more "tidy" (I currently just hide the > RAWs, as long as I > do not need them). > But how do you do tagging in this constellation? The only solution I > can currently > imagine is tagging only the JPG files and then do a tag based search by > > (1) find certain JPG by tag and remember the file's filename > (2) switch to the RAW folder and search or the same filename (with RAW > extension) > > Works well for one file - but how do you search for a bunch of files > (e.g. a certain > person with photos spread over different folders)? > > Do you have any experience with this? A hint would be great ;-) Thanks! > > Greetings, > Den > > Am 20.02.2013 19:04, schrieb H. Jürgen Karbach: > > Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2013, 11:01:23 schrieb Peer Heinlein: > >> Am 17.02.2013 22:16, schrieb H. Jürgen Karbach: > >> > >> > >> Hi Jürgen, > >> > >> thanks for your long and helpful answer. Sounds good -- sounds like > >> Digikam can already do what I need... > >> > >>> In the Import section you can chose the Structure. > >>> > >>> Based on camera provided information about the image date and choosen > >>> file suffix of the pictures to be saved, digiKam can use this to > >>> automatically create subalbums in the destination Album and move / copy > >>> downloaded files. > >> > >> But I wasn't able to find the menue to set this up. > >> > >> I'm using Digikam 2.6.0 -- does this version already support that? Could > >> you give me a hint where to find this option? > > > > 1. Connect our camera via USB or insert a memory-card. > > 2. Chose "Import" and then the device (cam or card) > > 3. Find on the right site the preferences of the import workflow. > > > > eventually you need to chose the preferences-tab on the right. > > > > I'm not sure, if it work well with your wanted structure: > > .../RAW then date-directories. > > Because there only checkboxes for suffix-based and date-based > > subdirectories. In my case - date over suffix - it works well. > > But don't know, if you can toggle this to suffix over date. > > > > in this side-window you can also select your prefered lossless file > > format. > > > > By creating a new collection and test-directories, you can pla and test > > digicams behaviour. > > > >>> In your case it seems to be recommended to set a different structure. 1) > >>> > >>> /home/user/Pictures/ > >>> --------------------------------RAW > >>> --------------------------------TIFF, PNG or JPG > >> > >> Yipp! I'll do that! > >> > >>> As long as you move a file only with digiKam the RAW and JPG will stay > >>> corelated. > >> > >> Great! > >> > >> > >> Peer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Digikam-users mailing list > > [hidden email] > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users > > _______________________________________________ > Digikam-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Am 20.02.2013 22:16, schrieb Den:
Hi, > for tagging pictures I always hoped Digikam would one day treat RAW and JPG > file as virtually one file. So tagging this virtual file would set the > same tags to > both, the RAW and the JPG. Yes, same for me. I just forget that in my first e-mail. Thanks for pointing that out. Peer -- Heinlein Support GmbH Schwedter Str. 8/9b, 10119 Berlin http://www.heinlein-support.de Tel: 030 / 405051-42 Fax: 030 / 405051-19 Zwangsangaben lt. §35a GmbHG: HRB 93818 B / Amtsgericht Berlin-Charlottenburg, Geschäftsführer: Peer Heinlein -- Sitz: Berlin _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Am 21.02.2013 12:00, schrieb Johannes Schwall:
Hi, > For this, I use a very pragmatic approach: Currently, my RAW and JPG > files reside in the same folder. I use a script to name them identically > (YYYY-MM-DD_HHMMSS.JPG/.NEF), then delete all the JPGs which I don't > want to keep and use another script to delete all RAW files for which > there is no corresponding JPG. Yes, that's how I work too. But that's not nice smooth and easy. That's not a "real" solution. Peer -- Heinlein Support GmbH Schwedter Str. 8/9b, 10119 Berlin http://www.heinlein-support.de Tel: 030 / 405051-42 Fax: 030 / 405051-19 Zwangsangaben lt. §35a GmbHG: HRB 93818 B / Amtsgericht Berlin-Charlottenburg, Geschäftsführer: Peer Heinlein -- Sitz: Berlin _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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Am 21.02.2013 12:00, schrieb Johannes Schwall: > Wolfgang Mader wrote: > >> I totally agree here. Also for removing files, it would be nice to >> have a >> mechanism to delete the jpg and corresponding raw file in one go. > > For this, I use a very pragmatic approach: Currently, my RAW and JPG > files reside in the same folder. I use a script to name them > identically (YYYY-MM-DD_HHMMSS.JPG/.NEF), then delete all the JPGs > which I don't want to keep and use another script to delete all RAW > files for which there is no corresponding JPG. > Yes, that's what I currently do as well. Still think this is workaround, I would prefer DK was able to handle this innately. By the way: the functionality of your first script is already implemented in DK renaming tool (picture --> rename, shortcut F2). In your case you could just mark your files, press F2 and rename them to [date:yyyy-MM-dd_hhmmss] This works even if you add a number to your file (e.g. yourfile001, yourfile002, ...): yourfile### renames your files to yourfile001.JPG, yourfile002.NEF, yourfile003.JPG, yourfile004.NEF, ... yourfile###[e] only increments the number for different file extensions (yourfile001.JPG, yourfile001.NEF, yourfile002.JPG, yourfile002.NEF, ...) Den _______________________________________________ Digikam-users mailing list [hidden email] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/digikam-users |
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