once again: color workflow

[Daniel Bauer-2]

Hi,

either I still don't understand it ( quite possible ;-) ) or there is really
something still missing:

- opening a CR2-raw file (click on it in album view)
- after loading the dialog "This picture has not assigned any color profile"
appears and I could convert it to my workspace color profile.

But (as far as I see it) this is quite useless, unless I can also define a
input-profile, because a useable picture only gets produced whith an input
*and* a workspace profile.

So, what I do is, click "do nothing", and then  Fix->Colors->Color
Management... to assign the Input-profile.

I guess, I've already asked this earlier, but shouldn't there be the option to
add the input profile for files without embeded profiles earlier, i.e. in the
dialog "This picture has not assigned..."?

regards

Daniel

Gilles: I still havn't found where to set "set contrast  and luminosity curve
adjustment of target image". Can you give me a closer hint, please...
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[Gilles Caulier-2]

On Monday 20 November 2006 14:20, Daniel Bauer wrote:

> Hi,
>
> either I still don't understand it ( quite possible ;-) ) or there is
> really something still missing:
>
> - opening a CR2-raw file (click on it in album view)
> - after loading the dialog "This picture has not assigned any color
> profile" appears and I could convert it to my workspace color profile.
>
> But (as far as I see it) this is quite useless, unless I can also define a
> input-profile, because a useable picture only gets produced whith an input
> *and* a workspace profile.
>
> So, what I do is, click "do nothing", and then  Fix->Colors->Color
> Management... to assign the Input-profile.
>
> I guess, I've already asked this earlier, but shouldn't there be the option
> to add the input profile for files without embeded profiles earlier, i.e.
> in the dialog "This picture has not assigned..."?
>
> regards
>
> Daniel
>
> Gilles: I still havn't found where to set "set contrast  and luminosity
> curve adjustment of target image". Can you give me a closer hint, please...

Daniel,

A screenshot is more simple to understand than a long explaination in
English :

Look in Setup/Color management dialog :

http://www.digikam.org/?q=node/184

...there is a check box option in "behaviour" section named : "Launch Color
Management plugin with RAW files"

Set on this option and you will be happy to see the right plugin started in
editor to apply ICC profiles on your RAW file :

http://www.digikam.org/?q=node/181

...where you can set the right camera profile and adjust contrast/luminosity

Friendly

Gilles
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[Daniel Bauer-2]

On Monday 20 November 2006 14:22, Gilles Caulier wrote:

> On Monday 20 November 2006 14:20, Daniel Bauer wrote:
> [...]
>
> Daniel,
>
> A screenshot is more simple to understand than a long explaination in
> English :
>
> Look in Setup/Color management dialog :
>
> http://www.digikam.org/?q=node/184
>
> ...there is a check box option in "behaviour" section named : "Launch Color
> Management plugin with RAW files"
>
> Set on this option and you will be happy to see the right plugin started in
> editor to apply ICC profiles on your RAW file :
>
> http://www.digikam.org/?q=node/181
>
> ...where you can set the right camera profile and adjust
> contrast/luminosity
>
> Friendly
>
> Gilles

Thank you Gilles

yes, sometimes it's better to talk in images with a guy like me :-)
So, I found this happily, and here's the next question:

I checked "Use color managed view". I guess I need this (correct me, if I'm
wrong, again), because I have the Tiff's in "wide gamut" but want to see
them "corrected" to monitor-(s)rgb.

But in the color management plugin preview, as far as I see it, the "color
managed view" is not applied (the monitor profile is not taken into account),
right?

So I see the "wrong" wide-gamut in the preview, and then the "right" color
managed view in the editor window only, right?

(This is what I meant with my question in the other thread, where I asked why
the preview looks different than the result that you get).

Now, when choosing the input profile I have to guess in my brain how the
picture finally will look, but my brain isn really capable for this (probably
I still run a 286 internally). So the only way is to apply an input profile,
look how it looks in the editor, discard the picture, re-load it, check the
next profile... this is quite inconveniant. What do you think about it?

regards

Daniel
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[Gilles Caulier-2]

Le Lundi 20 Novembre 2006 15:25, Daniel Bauer a écrit :

> On Monday 20 November 2006 14:22, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> > On Monday 20 November 2006 14:20, Daniel Bauer wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> > Daniel,
> >
> > A screenshot is more simple to understand than a long explaination in
> > English :
> >
> > Look in Setup/Color management dialog :
> >
> > http://www.digikam.org/?q=node/184
> >
> > ...there is a check box option in "behaviour" section named : "Launch
> > Color Management plugin with RAW files"
> >
> > Set on this option and you will be happy to see the right plugin started
> > in editor to apply ICC profiles on your RAW file :
> >
> > http://www.digikam.org/?q=node/181
> >
> > ...where you can set the right camera profile and adjust
> > contrast/luminosity
> >
> > Friendly
> >
> > Gilles
>
> Thank you Gilles
>
> yes, sometimes it's better to talk in images with a guy like me :-)
> So, I found this happily, and here's the next question:
>
> I checked "Use color managed view". I guess I need this (correct me, if I'm
> wrong, again), because I have the Tiff's in "wide gamut" but want to see
> them "corrected" to monitor-(s)rgb.
>
> But in the color management plugin preview, as far as I see it, the "color
> managed view" is not applied (the monitor profile is not taken into
> account), right?
>
> So I see the "wrong" wide-gamut in the preview, and then the "right" color
> managed view in the editor window only, right?
>
> (This is what I meant with my question in the other thread, where I asked
> why the preview looks different than the result that you get).

Sorry for this late response Daniel, but i have hacked indeep Color Management
on digiKam this week, and i have fixed a lot of dysfunctions with color
management view feature. Now yo u will see the correct color on the screen
using editor and all image editor plugins.

The corrected source code is in svn and will be avaialble on next 0.9.0-RC2.

If you use svn , just checkout the source code, compile it and try again.

Gilles

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[Daniel Bauer-2]

On Saturday 02 December 2006 11:19, Caulier Gilles wrote:

> Le Lundi 20 Novembre 2006 15:25, Daniel Bauer a écrit :
> > On Monday 20 November 2006 14:22, Gilles Caulier wrote:
> > > On Monday 20 November 2006 14:20, Daniel Bauer wrote:
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > Daniel,
> > >
> > > A screenshot is more simple to understand than a long explaination in
> > > English :
> > >
> > > Look in Setup/Color management dialog :
> > >
> > > http://www.digikam.org/?q=node/184
> > >
> > > ...there is a check box option in "behaviour" section named : "Launch
> > > Color Management plugin with RAW files"
> > >
> > > Set on this option and you will be happy to see the right plugin
> > > started in editor to apply ICC profiles on your RAW file :
> > >
> > > http://www.digikam.org/?q=node/181
> > >
> > > ...where you can set the right camera profile and adjust
> > > contrast/luminosity
> > >
> > > Friendly
> > >
> > > Gilles
> >
> > Thank you Gilles
> >
> > yes, sometimes it's better to talk in images with a guy like me :-)
> > So, I found this happily, and here's the next question:
> >
> > I checked "Use color managed view". I guess I need this (correct me, if
> > I'm wrong, again), because I have the Tiff's in "wide gamut" but want to
> > see them "corrected" to monitor-(s)rgb.
> >
> > But in the color management plugin preview, as far as I see it, the
> > "color managed view" is not applied (the monitor profile is not taken
> > into account), right?
> >
> > So I see the "wrong" wide-gamut in the preview, and then the "right"
> > color managed view in the editor window only, right?
> >
> > (This is what I meant with my question in the other thread, where I asked
> > why the preview looks different than the result that you get).
>
> Sorry for this late response Daniel, but i have hacked indeep Color
> Management on digiKam this week, and i have fixed a lot of dysfunctions
> with color management view feature. Now yo u will see the correct color on
> the screen using editor and all image editor plugins.
>
> The corrected source code is in svn and will be avaialble on next
> 0.9.0-RC2.
>
> If you use svn , just checkout the source code, compile it and try again.
>
> Gilles

thanks, no problm for the "delay" - I see your activity here on the list: you
must be heavily working all the time :-)

thanks once more for your work to make a photographers life more relaxed!
I'm going to update this weekend...

Daniel
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professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com
Madagascar special: http://www.sanic.ch
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