new digikam-0.9.x release?

[Rex Dieter]

Any imminent plans on a new digikam-0.9.x release compatible with the new
libkdcraw-0.1.6?

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

Why ? 0.9.4 release do not compile with libkdcraw 0.1.6 ?

Gilles Caulier

2008/10/14 Rex Dieter <[hidden email]>

Any imminent plans on a new digikam-0.9.x release compatible with the new
libkdcraw-0.1.6?

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[Rex Dieter]

Gilles Caulier wrote:

> Why ? 0.9.4 release do not compile with libkdcraw 0.1.6 ?

No, it does not.  

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2008/10/14 Rex Dieter <[hidden email]>

Gilles Caulier wrote:

> Why ? 0.9.4 release do not compile with libkdcraw 0.1.6 ?

No, it does not.

Strange. it must. let's me see compilation trace please...

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Gilles Caulier wrote:

> 2008/10/14 Rex Dieter <[hidden email]>
>
>> Gilles Caulier wrote:
>>
>> > Why ? 0.9.4 release do not compile with libkdcraw 0.1.6 ?
>>
>> No, it does not.
>>
>
> Strange. it must. let's me see compilation trace please...

Simple.  libkdcraw-0.1.6 dropped dcrawbinary.h, which is referenced all over
the place in digikam-0.9.4 source.  digikam kde3 branch cvs has many
commits ~4 weeks ago of this being fixed (#ifdefs for different libkdcraw
versions).

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Gilles Caulier wrote:
> 2008/10/14 Rex Dieter <[hidden email]>
>> Gilles Caulier wrote:

>> > Why ? 0.9.4 release do not compile with libkdcraw 0.1.6 ?

>> No, it does not.

> Strange. it must. let's me see compilation trace please...

For example, here's my quick-n-dirty patch pulled mostly from recent cvs
commits, to make digikam-0.9.4 buildable,
http://rdieter.fedorapeople.org/digikam-0.9.4-libkdcraw.patch

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

Right. Of course, current implementation for KDE3 from svn (next 0.9.5) fix this problem already.

But i'm shared between to continue to maintain KDE3 version and to work only on KDE4... This require a lots of time.

Make KDE3 version compilable with libkdcraw 0.1.6 is important. Perhaps packagers can only apply your patch as well against 0.9.4, for the moment ? Achim and other, please let's me hear...

From developpers point, of course there are a lots of new stuff implemented in 0.9.3, backported from KDE4. So the question is 0.9.5 or not ? Andi, Marcel ?

Note : inot 0.9.5, there still few stuff to implement to polish new feature, especially in editor with EditorTool component. This is also true for KDE4...

Gilles Caulier

2008/10/14 Rex Dieter <[hidden email]>

Gilles Caulier wrote:

> 2008/10/14 Rex Dieter <[hidden email]>
>
>> Gilles Caulier wrote:
>>
>> > Why ? 0.9.4 release do not compile with libkdcraw 0.1.6 ?
>>
>> No, it does not.
>>
>
> Strange. it must. let's me see compilation trace please...

Simple.  libkdcraw-0.1.6 dropped dcrawbinary.h, which is referenced all over
the place in digikam-0.9.4 source.  digikam kde3 branch cvs has many
commits ~4 weeks ago of this being fixed (#ifdefs for different libkdcraw
versions).

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Hmm I also think there is no need for 0.9.5 right now, since it would not
introduce any new features... maybe we can just release a bugfix version
(0.9.4.1)?

In the beginning I worked a lot on KDE3, but since 2 months mainly on KDE4. We
need to get the 0.10 series stable so we can finally release it. Right now it
has some annoying drawbacks (of which some have been fixed recently like the
long album scanning).... those things  should be fixed first. Also KDE3 will
be dropped soon everywhere, at least in the major distributions.

I would just release a minor bugfix release, but not a 0.9.5 right now.

Andi

In the beginning, I worked a lot on KDE3, but I also think
On Saturday 18 October 2008 13:38:44 Gilles Caulier wrote:

> Right. Of course, current implementation for KDE3 from svn (next 0.9.5) fix
> this problem already.
>
> But i'm shared between to continue to maintain KDE3 version and to work
> only on KDE4... This require a lots of time.
>
> Make KDE3 version compilable with libkdcraw 0.1.6 is important. Perhaps
> packagers can only apply your patch as well against 0.9.4, for the moment ?
> Achim and other, please let's me hear...
>
> >From developpers point, of course there are a lots of new stuff
> > implemented
>
> in 0.9.3, backported from KDE4. So the question is 0.9.5 or not ? Andi,
> Marcel ?
>
> Note : inot 0.9.5, there still few stuff to implement to polish new
> feature, especially in editor with EditorTool component. This is also true
> for KDE4...
>
> Gilles Caulier
>
>
>
> 2008/10/14 Rex Dieter <[hidden email]>
>
> > Gilles Caulier wrote:
> > > 2008/10/14 Rex Dieter <[hidden email]>
> > >
> > >> Gilles Caulier wrote:
> > >> > Why ? 0.9.4 release do not compile with libkdcraw 0.1.6 ?
> > >>
> > >> No, it does not.
> > >
> > > Strange. it must. let's me see compilation trace please...
> >
> > Simple.  libkdcraw-0.1.6 dropped dcrawbinary.h, which is referenced all
> > over
> > the place in digikam-0.9.4 source.  digikam kde3 branch cvs has many
> > commits ~4 weeks ago of this being fixed (#ifdefs for different libkdcraw
> > versions).
> >
> > -- Rex
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2008/10/18 Andi Clemens <[hidden email]>

Hmm I also think there is no need for 0.9.5 right now, since it would not
introduce any new features...

Really ? and RAW import ? and all Editor tools support ? It's really a huge improvements for me...

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Oopps! :-)
That's the problem when you always work on latest trunk :-)
I thought this has been done in 0.9.4 already....

Andi

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> 2008/10/18 Andi Clemens <[hidden email]>
>
> > Hmm I also think there is no need for 0.9.5 right now, since it would not
> > introduce any new features...
>
> Really ? and RAW import ? and all Editor tools support ? It's really a huge
> improvements for me...
>
> Gilles

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[Gilles Caulier-4]

(:=)))

Look NEWS file :

http://websvn.kde.org/branches/extragear/kde3/graphics/digikam/NEWS?revision=871869&view=markup


To be able to release 0.9.5 without any new features, we need to polish Editor Tool. I think it's enough. Also, unforget that we need to do it also in KDE4. This will be just a backport job...

I have already prepared a mail (not yet complete to explain what we need to do exactly)... but i'm lost in Win32 compilation stuff dince one week. (very interresting, but complex. Win32 is completly differrent env.)

Gilles

2008/10/18 Andi Clemens <[hidden email]>

Oopps! :-)
That's the problem when you always work on latest trunk :-)
I thought this has been done in 0.9.4 already....

Andi

On Saturday 18 October 2008 14:29:22 Gilles Caulier wrote:
> 2008/10/18 Andi Clemens <[hidden email]>
>
> > Hmm I also think there is no need for 0.9.5 right now, since it would not
> > introduce any new features...
>
> Really ? and RAW import ? and all Editor tools support ? It's really a huge
> improvements for me...
>
> Gilles

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[Marcel Wiesweg]

> Right. Of course, current implementation for KDE3 from svn (next 0.9.5) fix
> this problem already.
>
> But i'm shared between to continue to maintain KDE3 version and to work
> only on KDE4... This require a lots of time.
>
> Make KDE3 version compilable with libkdcraw 0.1.6 is important. Perhaps
> packagers can only apply your patch as well against 0.9.4, for the moment ?
> Achim and other, please let's me hear...
>
> >From developpers point, of course there are a lots of new stuff
> > implemented
>
> in 0.9.3, backported from KDE4. So the question is 0.9.5 or not ? Andi,
> Marcel ?

For many months I have been working almost exclusively on the KDE4 version,
but you have invested a lot of work to add new features to 0.9.4 as well, so
you will want this work to pay off as well. My question is how much work is
required for a next 0.9.5 version, or, said more directly, what open ends
would keep you from releasing 0.9.5 tomorrow (in theory, I mean).

>
> Note : inot 0.9.5, there still few stuff to implement to polish new
> feature, especially in editor with EditorTool component. This is also true
> for KDE4...
>
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2008/10/18 Marcel Wiesweg <[hidden email]>

> Right. Of course, current implementation for KDE3 from svn (next 0.9.5) fix
> this problem already.
>
> But i'm shared between to continue to maintain KDE3 version and to work
> only on KDE4... This require a lots of time.
>
> Make KDE3 version compilable with libkdcraw 0.1.6 is important. Perhaps
> packagers can only apply your patch as well against 0.9.4, for the moment ?
> Achim and other, please let's me hear...
>
> >From developpers point, of course there are a lots of new stuff
> > implemented
>
> in 0.9.3, backported from KDE4. So the question is 0.9.5 or not ? Andi,
> Marcel ?

For many months I have been working almost exclusively on the KDE4 version,
but you have invested a lot of work to add new features to 0.9.4 as well, so
you will want this work to pay off as well. My question is how much work is
required for a next 0.9.5 version, or, said more directly, what open ends
would keep you from releasing 0.9.5 tomorrow (in theory, I mean).

0.9.5 cannot be released as well. a new beta cycle need to be done. This can be a reduced cycle compared to 0.9.4 for ex.

The advantage to do it is to have a report from KDE3 users about common features implemented in KDE4 (RAWImport and Editor Tools).

users will be more able to play with KDE3 than KDE4. Why ? because KDE4 still unsuitable from ends users. By ex. i have installed some fresh Mandriva 2009.0 with KDE4 desktop in my office. all have toggle to KDE3 desktop : more stable, more powerfull, no regression. KDE 4.2 will be certainly ready for production (i hope). this is not yet the case.

This is why i think that to maintain KDE3 is important.

I would to hear more viewpoint here. Achim, Gerhard, etc... ?

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Dnia Saturday 18 of October 2008, Gilles Caulier napisał:
> users will be more able to play with KDE3 than KDE4. Why ? because KDE4
> still unsuitable from ends users. By ex. i have installed some fresh
> Mandriva 2009.0 with KDE4 desktop in my office. all have toggle to KDE3
> desktop : more stable, more powerfull, no regression. KDE 4.2 will be
> certainly ready for production (i hope). this is not yet the case.

IMO 4.2 will be really ready for normal work (even current svn is quite
stable). Only people with older machines will stay with 3.5.

m.

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and people with NVidia cards like me, KDE4 is so damn slow, even with all
effects turned off.

On Saturday 18 October 2008 22:18:46 Mikolaj Machowski wrote:

> Dnia Saturday 18 of October 2008, Gilles Caulier napisał:
> > users will be more able to play with KDE3 than KDE4. Why ? because KDE4
> > still unsuitable from ends users. By ex. i have installed some fresh
> > Mandriva 2009.0 with KDE4 desktop in my office. all have toggle to KDE3
> > desktop : more stable, more powerfull, no regression. KDE 4.2 will be
> > certainly ready for production (i hope). this is not yet the case.
>
> IMO 4.2 will be really ready for normal work (even current svn is quite
> stable). Only people with older machines will stay with 3.5.
>
> m.
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On Saturday 18 October 2008, Andi Clemens wrote:
> and people with NVidia cards like me, KDE4 is so damn slow, even with all
> effects turned off.

Have you tried the new beta driver?
The new Beta driver running on my workstation. 7600GT/3GhZ/8GB machine flies
with 4.1.2 with most effects turned on. Got to have my wiggly windows!

http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_177.80.html
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