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hiding "empty" albums

Thomas Hummel-2
Hello,

After having considered and tried both Kphotoalbum and Digikam, I
found the latter to better for reasons I won't enumerate here and
would like to thank you for this nice piece of software.

Still I'm coming back to a question mentionned previously that may
have been unnoticed since at the end of a long thread.

  . each directory under the root picture directory is considered to
    be an album,

  . it is common, outside any software, to layout a 'Collection' on
    the file system (let's say pictures from your last holidays) in a
    hierarchy of directories, some of which could hold no pictures (beeing
    there only for organization purpose)

        ex :

        holidays_06/foo/aa/*.jpg
        holidays_06/bar/bb/*.jpg

   . if we consider "holidays_06" in this example to be a
     "Collection", once imported, the "foo" and "bar" albums, since
     they hold no picture, would appear as "empty" in the
     "Album-sorted-by-Collections" view

Is there a way to 'hide' them ?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: hiding "empty" albums

Thomas Hummel-2
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 07:35:02PM +0100, Thomas Hummel wrote:

> Is there a way to 'hide' them ?

Doesn't my question make sense ? Am I missing something ?

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Re: hiding "empty" albums

Gilles Caulier-2
Le samedi 11 novembre 2006 21:33, Thomas Hummel a écrit :
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 07:35:02PM +0100, Thomas Hummel wrote:
> > Is there a way to 'hide' them ?
>
> Doesn't my question make sense ? Am I missing something ?

No way directly. Are you tried to use the Album flat view via View/Soert
Album/By categories ?

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Re: hiding "empty" albums

Thomas Hummel-2
On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 09:48:49PM +0100, Caulier Gilles wrote:
> Le samedi 11 novembre 2006 21:33, Thomas Hummel a écrit :
> > On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 07:35:02PM +0100, Thomas Hummel wrote:
> > > Is there a way to 'hide' them ?

> No way directly.

I see. Thanks for your answer.

So would you advise, to use digikam efficiently, to store pictures in
a simple layout on disk (i.e. no subfolders without images in it) ?


> Are you tried to use the Album flat view via View/Soert
> Album/By categories ?

Maybe we're not talking about the same version bacause I don't have
this menu item.
I'm using the english version of Digikam 0.8.2/KDE 3.5.5 on Kubuntu
6-10 desktop i386.

I read the digikam handbook on

  http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-graphics/digikam/index.html

but found no reference to "Categories". In the "View/Sort Album" menu,
I only have "By Folder", "By Collection", "By Date" items.

I guess what you call a category is a "Tag".
The only way I can have a flat view sorted by tags is, as expected, in
the "tags" tab located on the left sidebar.
 
thanks again.

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Re: hiding "empty" albums

Fabien-5
Thomas Hummel wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 09:48:49PM +0100, Caulier Gilles wrote:
>
>>Le samedi 11 novembre 2006 21:33, Thomas Hummel a écrit :
>>
>>>On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 07:35:02PM +0100, Thomas Hummel wrote:
>>>
>>>>Is there a way to 'hide' them ?
>
>
>>No way directly.
>
>
> I see. Thanks for your answer.
>
> So would you advise, to use digikam efficiently, to store pictures in
> a simple layout on disk (i.e. no subfolders without images in it) ?

I would suggest you to not create a deep tree.
Personally, I store pictures like that :
2006-11-12_week-end_xxx
2006-11-04_week-end_yyy
etc...
Then, I put best pictures inside and create a subdir others for other
pictures I want to keep :)

Then, you can put a few albums in a Collection (check album properties)
and use view/sort by collection.

>>Are you tried to use the Album flat view via View/Soert
>>Album/By categories ?
>
>
> Maybe we're not talking about the same version bacause I don't have
> this menu item.
> I'm using the english version of Digikam 0.8.2/KDE 3.5.5 on Kubuntu
> 6-10 desktop i386.

It's not in the svn version, too.

> I read the digikam handbook on
>
>   http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-graphics/digikam/index.html
>
> but found no reference to "Categories". In the "View/Sort Album" menu,
> I only have "By Folder", "By Collection", "By Date" items.
>
> I guess what you call a category is a "Tag".
I rather think of a collection...

> The only way I can have a flat view sorted by tags is, as expected, in
> the "tags" tab located on the left sidebar.
If you are ready to experiment, you should try the latest beta release.
Maybe you could wait a few days because Gilles announced there will be a
release candidate soon.

Hope this helps.

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Re: hiding "empty" albums

Thomas Hummel-2
On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 01:11:52PM +0100, Fabien wrote:

> I would suggest you to not create a deep tree.

Indeed that's what I had deducted...

> Personally, I store pictures like that :
> 2006-11-12_week-end_xxx
> 2006-11-04_week-end_yyy
> etc...
> Then, I put best pictures inside and create a subdir others for other
> pictures I want to keep :)
>
> Then, you can put a few albums in a Collection (check album properties)
> and use view/sort by collection.

I thought about that, but couldn't do it since I wanted to split
"normal" pictures and "under water" pictures.

But I think you're right.
As a matter of fact the "tag" concept (which is actually the good way
to go) is redundant with directory hierarchy (which is in fact a
(wrong) way of tagging (with the file system)).

To take this argument to the limit, the concept of album should not
"physically" or statically exist. Instead, an album should, to me,
just be the *dynamic* result of a view or a search.  Of course, that
concept already exists in digikam (through the search tab for
instance), but it just somehow collapse with the "album as a
directory" concept.

Don't get me wrong : this is by no mean a criticism, just a
thought. Digikam seems to be really well done and thought out.

> >>Are you tried to use the Album flat view via View/Soert
> >>Album/By categories ?
> >
> >
> > Maybe we're not talking about the same version bacause I don't have
> > this menu item.
> > I'm using the english version of Digikam 0.8.2/KDE 3.5.5 on Kubuntu
> > 6-10 desktop i386.
>
> It's not in the svn version, too.
>
> > I read the digikam handbook on
> >
> >   http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-graphics/digikam/index.html
> >
> > but found no reference to "Categories". In the "View/Sort Album" menu,
> > I only have "By Folder", "By Collection", "By Date" items.
> >
> > I guess what you call a category is a "Tag".
> I rather think of a collection...

must be that.

> If you are ready to experiment, you should try the latest beta release.

I will

> Maybe you could wait a few days because Gilles announced there will be a
> release candidate soon.

> Hope this helps.

Thanks for taking time to help!

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