[digiKam-users] tagging when exporting

[fch22]

Hi all

I'm using Flickr to publish my pictures (should be the same for any
other web based tools) , and I'm often wondering when looking my
pictures in DK , which ones has been uploaded.

one option is to manually put a tag once the file has been uploaded, but
not really efficient (often forgoting to make it and too manual)

I looked at the batch queue management tool in DK, but didn't find how
to include export and tag into the batch queue

In the export queue, there is an option to add a tag, but , unless I
miss something, it add the tags in the exported pictures, not in the
original ones.

just would like to get your feedabck and your experience on this.

thanks

frederic

[Gilles Caulier-4]

Hi,

All these wishes in this thread are relevant of the student project while Google Summer of Code, studied  by Thanh, and partially done.

You must know that for 6.0.0, we drop kipi support due to lack of support from other kipi hosts teams, and due to limitations from kipi api, at least for digiKam. We create kipi 12 years ago to share all plugins from digiKam core and we design an API working with all others kipi hosts application.

The fact is that all plugins have growing in a closed space with features more and less similar, or completely different. While developing digiKam core intensively, kipi-plugins do not follow the mouvement and become more and more outdated. Following development of both was impossible due to the huge quantity of code to review, manage, fix, etc...

As more and less nobody support in time the plugins maintenance (especially from outside of DK), the choice was simple :

- backport all the codes in digiKam core

- remove the kipi support. This permit to have one KDE dependency removed and to simplify the puzzle.

- use everywhere the digiKam core API and simplify all implementations. Previously a lots of interfaces was used to permit to each tools to work properly with all kipi hosts applications.

- connect all plugins everywhere in digiKam core, and not only on albums view. You can found all tools in image editor, Light table , and Showfoto.

This migration start on year ago. All plugins code was moved and ported to digiKam API as well. We prepared a lots of classes to factoring all tools implementations (widgets, talkers, dialogs, etc...). The goal was to propose a project to a student this summer to :

- factorized all tools with common implementations when it's possible (remote web service do not propose all the same features).

- tests the new implementations with remote web services.

- fix the old bugs and implement some new features. We have review all previous bugs in bugzilla and killed a lots of entry with double checking. This take a while : currently, more than 500 bugs are closed with next 6.0.0 release, and it's not yet complete.

- Prepare the future with a new common export tool which embed all web services in a single one (as LR done).

This last stage is not yet complete. Thanh has done the best but time was limited. Some web-services require a new registration and a review of the export tool to be validated. The facebook one for ex, is just for me a shame when FB ask to change the colors of the tool GUI to be near of the FB GUI. It's not serious (and i don't give my personal viewpoint about this SN - it's another story).

The plans also in the future are :

- to create a new plugins interface for DK only. I'm working on, and it's not yet complete. We will not open the door to new applications to use the DK tools, but we will open the API for extra developers who want to create a new tool without to touch the core of DK.

- to open BQM to the plugins interface. This want mean to export BQM API and create dedicated tools for BQM, but also to be able to use the web service tools in BQM.

As you can see, there still a lots of works to do. Thanh can again contribute next year to do the second stage one this migration, i'm still in contact with him, we will see.

All these points listed in this thread are available in digiKam bugzilla :

https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=grave&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=crash&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=wishlist&bug_severity=task&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=CONFIRMED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Export-Box&component=Export-DropBox&component=Export-Facebook&component=Export-FileTransfer&component=Export-Flickr&component=Export-Google&component=Export-ImageShack&component=Export-Imgur&component=Export-MediaWiki&component=Export-OneDrive&component=Export-Pinterest&component=Export-Piwigo&component=Export-Rajce&component=Export-SmugMug&component=Export-Vkontakte&component=Export-WishForNewTools&component=Export-YandexFotki&list_id=1543596&product=digikam&query_format=advanced&short_desc=FACTORING&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr

To conclude, look also the digiKam 6.0.0-beta1 announcement parts :

- Web-service Tools Available Everywhere

- Web-Services Tools Factoring and Oauth Authentication.

https://www.digikam.org/news/2018-08-19-6.0.0-beta1_release_announcement/

Voilà.

Gilles Caulier

2018-09-08 9:58 GMT+02:00 frederic chaume <[hidden email]>:

Hi all

I'm using Flickr to publish my pictures (should be the same for any other web based tools) , and I'm often wondering when looking my pictures in DK , which ones has been uploaded.

one option is to manually put a tag once the file has been uploaded, but not really efficient (often forgoting to make it and too manual)

I looked at the batch queue management tool in DK, but didn't find how to include export and tag into the batch queue

In the export queue, there is an option to add a tag, but , unless I miss something, it add the tags in the exported pictures, not in the original ones.

just would like to get your feedabck and your experience on this.

thanks

frederic

[Maik Qualmann]

Frederic,

I understand your problem so that your tags are not exported to Flickr? I can
not reproduce the problem here if the option in the Flickr tool is enabled to
use the tags of the host application. Or do you want to add additional tags,
only for export?

Maik

Am Samstag, 8. September 2018, 09:58:50 CEST schrieb frederic chaume:

> Hi all
>
> I'm using Flickr to publish my pictures (should be the same for any
> other web based tools) , and I'm often wondering when looking my
> pictures in DK , which ones has been uploaded.
>
> one option is to manually put a tag once the file has been uploaded, but
> not really efficient (often forgoting to make it and too manual)
>
> I looked at the batch queue management tool in DK, but didn't find how
> to include export and tag into the batch queue
>
> In the export queue, there is an option to add a tag, but , unless I
> miss something, it add the tags in the exported pictures, not in the
> original ones.
>
> just would like to get your feedabck and your experience on this.
>
> thanks
>
> frederic

[fch22]

Hi Maik

I  'm looking to tag the original files on my PC that have been
exported. Now if the tag is also exported, it is not a problem

purpose is to know which files (on my PC) have been exported

there is an option in export flick tool to add a tag, but unless I
missed something, the tag is added to the image in flickr , not on the
original file


regards

frederic




Le 08/09/2018 à 21:41, Maik Qualmann a écrit :

> Frederic,
>
> I understand your problem so that your tags are not exported to Flickr? I can
> not reproduce the problem here if the option in the Flickr tool is enabled to
> use the tags of the host application. Or do you want to add additional tags,
> only for export?
>
> Maik
>
> Am Samstag, 8. September 2018, 09:58:50 CEST schrieb frederic chaume:
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'm using Flickr to publish my pictures (should be the same for any
>> other web based tools) , and I'm often wondering when looking my
>> pictures in DK , which ones has been uploaded.
>>
>> one option is to manually put a tag once the file has been uploaded, but
>> not really efficient (often forgoting to make it and too manual)
>>
>> I looked at the batch queue management tool in DK, but didn't find how
>> to include export and tag into the batch queue
>>
>> In the export queue, there is an option to add a tag, but , unless I
>> miss something, it add the tags in the exported pictures, not in the
>> original ones.
>>
>> just would like to get your feedabck and your experience on this.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> frederic
>
>
>

[Markus Leuthold]

Hi Frederic

Currently, the integration of online photo sharing platforms with Digikam is limited to manual upload (with tags). What's missing:

- Knowledge of Digikam which and when a Photo has been uploaded

- Automatism (e.g automatically upload all pics with more than 1 star)

- Update online metadata if changed in Digikam (tags, stars)

I've solved the problem by programming an external sync tool to keep my local Digikam in sync with my SmugMug account. I'm not aware of an existing tool for Flickr for that purpose.

As for the technical implementation, I added a new sql table "PhotoSharing" (columns imageid, remoteId, mtime_tags), added a timestamp to the existing tables ImageTags (changing tags of an image updates the timestamp) & ImageInformation (changing the rating updates the timestamp). No code change is needed in Digikam, only the database needs to be adopted. From time to time, I need to run a python script to do the sync.

For me, the integration of Digikam with SmugMug now works quite well: Changing a tag or rating in Digikam is now visible on SM after running the external sync tool. Adding a photo with more than 1 star is uploaded to SM. No more uncertainty if a pic is already online or not. No more manual upload of a particular image, all handled with a single script.

Unfortunately, my script wouldn't work for you since Flickr uses a different API compared to SM. Let me know if you feel comfortable with programming/python/flickr API/sql, then I'm happy to share the code with you such that you can adopt it to Flickr.

best, Kusi

On Sun, 9 Sep 2018 at 09:38, frederic chaume <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Maik

I  'm looking to tag the original files on my PC that have been
exported. Now if the tag is also exported, it is not a problem

purpose is to know which files (on my PC) have been exported

there is an option in export flick tool to add a tag, but unless I
missed something, the tag is added to the image in flickr , not on the
original file


regards

frederic




Le 08/09/2018 à 21:41, Maik Qualmann a écrit :
> Frederic,
>
> I understand your problem so that your tags are not exported to Flickr? I can
> not reproduce the problem here if the option in the Flickr tool is enabled to
> use the tags of the host application. Or do you want to add additional tags,
> only for export?
>
> Maik
>
> Am Samstag, 8. September 2018, 09:58:50 CEST schrieb frederic chaume:
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'm using Flickr to publish my pictures (should be the same for any
>> other web based tools) , and I'm often wondering when looking my
>> pictures in DK , which ones has been uploaded.
>>
>> one option is to manually put a tag once the file has been uploaded, but
>> not really efficient (often forgoting to make it and too manual)
>>
>> I looked at the batch queue management tool in DK, but didn't find how
>> to include export and tag into the batch queue
>>
>> In the export queue, there is an option to add a tag, but , unless I
>> miss something, it add the tags in the exported pictures, not in the
>> original ones.
>>
>> just would like to get your feedabck and your experience on this.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> frederic
>
>
>

Le 09/09/2018 à 23:34, Markus Leuthold a écrit :

> - Update online metadata if changed in Digikam (tags, stars)
>

and vice versa? (that is copy in local db tags added online?

directly in images or in sidecar files?

I would be interested by a way to sync a mariadb database with sidecar
files, because it's very simple to sync sidecar (very small size)

I'm not able to programm and app, but I read sql and scripts

an algorithm would be nice, coding a script from it could be simple

thanks
jdd
(piwigo user)


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