[digiKam-users] XMP sidecar settings

[AlanH]

Hello,

Using 6.4 on Windows. Is there a setting so that XMP sidecars are created only for raw file metadata and have jpeg metadata written directly to the jpeg without creating (overwriting!) a XMP sidecar? I’m running into problems where I wish to have different metadata for a jpeg-raw pair but cannot use the filename.jpg.xmp and filename.rw2.xmp convention. Returning to process/update the raw after changes in the jpeg is a bit of a clutzy and sometimes forgotten sequence. Current settings are: “Write to item and XMP sidecar” and “Use a compatible filename for writing to sidecar files”. Thanks. Alan

 

 

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[Maik Qualmann]

Hi Alan,

my first question is, why are you still on digiKam-6.4.0? We are now about to
release digiKam-7.2.0 (https://files.kde.org/digikam/). Windows support in
particular has also been significantly improved in the 7.x.x versions.

To your question: Simply select in the metadata settings for sidecar that you
only have sidecar files for items that can only be read. Read only does not
only mean files that are write-protected, but also RAW files.

Maik

Am Sonntag, 24. Januar 2021, 03:39:33 CET schrieb Alan H:

> Hello,
> Using 6.4 on Windows. Is there a setting so that XMP sidecars are created
> only for raw file metadata and have jpeg metadata written directly to the
> jpeg without creating (overwriting!) a XMP sidecar? I’m running into
> problems where I wish to have different metadata for a jpeg-raw pair but
> cannot use the filename.jpg.xmp and filename.rw2.xmp convention. Returning
> to process/update the raw after changes in the jpeg is a bit of a clutzy
> and sometimes forgotten sequence. Current settings are: “Write to item and
> XMP sidecar” and “Use a compatible filename for writing to sidecar files”.
> Thanks. Alan
>
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 10

[AlanH]

Hi Maik,

Thanks for the tip. I've been using 6.4 to curate a large collection of digitized slides and prints. It has been/is working perfectly for that task. I simply haven't thought about updating. That said I also appreciate the development and fixes of new versions. Thanks for the reminder/nudge. Will install 7.2 asap.

Alan

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Hi Alan,

my first question is, why are you still on digiKam-6.4.0? We are now about to
release digiKam-7.2.0 (https://files.kde.org/digikam/). Windows support in
particular has also been significantly improved in the 7.x.x versions.

To your question: Simply select in the metadata settings for sidecar that you
only have sidecar files for items that can only be read. Read only does not
only mean files that are write-protected, but also RAW files.

Maik

Am Sonntag, 24. Januar 2021, 03:39:33 CET schrieb Alan H:
> Hello,
> Using 6.4 on Windows. Is there a setting so that XMP sidecars are created
> only for raw file metadata and have jpeg metadata written directly to the
> jpeg without creating (overwriting!) a XMP sidecar? I’m running into
> problems where I wish to have different metadata for a jpeg-raw pair but
> cannot use the filename.jpg.xmp and filename.rw2.xmp convention. Returning
> to process/update the raw after changes in the jpeg is a bit of a clutzy
> and sometimes forgotten sequence. Current settings are: “Write to item and
> XMP sidecar” and “Use a compatible filename for writing to sidecar files”.
> Thanks. Alan
>
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 10

[AlanH]

Hi Maik,

 

Selecting "write to XMP sidecar for read-only item only" works. Metadata is written directly to jpegs and XMP files are created for raw (rw2) files. However, if a jpeg is selected and "Item>Reread Metadata from file" applied, the jpeg will then display the metadata from the  XMP file for the raw file. It only displays it in the preview pane (internal database?) but does not update (write out to) the jpeg.

 

Should this happen? If I change the jpeg metadata in another app and wish to update digikam’s database I would want to update with the jpeg metadata not the metadata for the raw file. Or, if a jpeg (or several) is left selected and scrolled out of view of the preview pane I would not want it (them) updated with a raw file's metadata. I hope I'm explaining this correctly. Can this be fixed? Thanks.

 

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Hi Maik,

Thanks for the tip. I've been using 6.4 to curate a large collection of digitized slides and prints. It has been/is working perfectly for that task. I simply haven't thought about updating. That said I also appreciate the development and fixes of new versions. Thanks for the reminder/nudge. Will install 7.2 asap.

 

Alan

From: Digikam-users <[hidden email]> on behalf of Maik Qualmann <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 4:57 AM
To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power of open source <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [digiKam-users] XMP sidecar settings

 

Hi Alan,

my first question is, why are you still on digiKam-6.4.0? We are now about to
release digiKam-7.2.0 (https://files.kde.org/digikam/). Windows support in
particular has also been significantly improved in the 7.x.x versions.

To your question: Simply select in the metadata settings for sidecar that you
only have sidecar files for items that can only be read. Read only does not
only mean files that are write-protected, but also RAW files.

Maik

Am Sonntag, 24. Januar 2021, 03:39:33 CET schrieb Alan H:
> Hello,
> Using 6.4 on Windows. Is there a setting so that XMP sidecars are created
> only for raw file metadata and have jpeg metadata written directly to the
> jpeg without creating (overwriting!) a XMP sidecar? I’m running into
> problems where I wish to have different metadata for a jpeg-raw pair but
> cannot use the filename.jpg.xmp and filename.rw2.xmp convention. Returning
> to process/update the raw after changes in the jpeg is a bit of a clutzy
> and sometimes forgotten sequence. Current settings are: “Write to item and
> XMP sidecar” and “Use a compatible filename for writing to sidecar files”.
> Thanks. Alan
>
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 10

 

[Maik Qualmann]

Am Montag, 25. Januar 2021, 15:14:06 CET schrieb Alan H:

> Hi Maik,
>
> Selecting "write to XMP sidecar for read-only item only" works. Metadata is
> written directly to jpegs and XMP files are created for raw (rw2) files.
> However, if a jpeg is selected and "Item>Reread Metadata from file"
> applied, the jpeg will then display the metadata from the  XMP file for the
> raw file. It only displays it in the preview pane (internal database?) but
> does not update (write out to) the jpeg.
>
> Should this happen? If I change the jpeg metadata in another app and wish to
> update digikam’s database I would want to update with the jpeg metadata not
> the metadata for the raw file. Or, if a jpeg (or several) is left selected
> and scrolled out of view of the preview pane I would not want it (them)
> updated with a raw file's metadata. I hope I'm explaining this correctly.
> Can this be fixed? Thanks.
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 10
>
> From: Alan H<mailto:[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 8:46 AM
> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power
> of open source<mailto:[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [digiKam-users]
> XMP sidecar settings

Well, that's the problem when the compatible file name option is used. So
BASENAME.xmp, then the XMP fits both BASENAME.jpg and BASENAME.rw2. Then just
switch back to BASENAME.EXT.xmp. There is no other solution. Or you can save
the RAW files in a different path / subfolder.

Maik

>
> Hi Maik,
> Thanks for the tip. I've been using 6.4 to curate a large collection of
> digitized slides and prints. It has been/is working perfectly for that
> task. I simply haven't thought about updating. That said I also appreciate
> the development and fixes of new versions. Thanks for the reminder/nudge.
> Will install 7.2 asap.
>
> Alan
>
> From: Digikam-users <[hidden email]> on behalf of Maik
> Qualmann <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 4:57 AM
> To: digiKam - Home Manage your photographs as a professional with the power
> of open source <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [digiKam-users] XMP
> sidecar settings
>
> Hi Alan,
>
> my first question is, why are you still on digiKam-6.4.0? We are now about
> to release digiKam-7.2.0 (https://files.kde.org/digikam/). Windows support
> in particular has also been significantly improved in the 7.x.x versions.
>
> To your question: Simply select in the metadata settings for sidecar that
> you only have sidecar files for items that can only be read. Read only does
> not only mean files that are write-protected, but also RAW files.
>
> Maik
>
> Am Sonntag, 24. Januar 2021, 03:39:33 CET schrieb Alan H:
> > Hello,
> > Using 6.4 on Windows. Is there a setting so that XMP sidecars are created
> > only for raw file metadata and have jpeg metadata written directly to the
> > jpeg without creating (overwriting!) a XMP sidecar? I’m running into
> > problems where I wish to have different metadata for a jpeg-raw pair but
> > cannot use the filename.jpg.xmp and filename.rw2.xmp convention. Returning
> > to process/update the raw after changes in the jpeg is a bit of a clutzy
> > and sometimes forgotten sequence. Current settings are: “Write to item and
> > XMP sidecar” and “Use a compatible filename for writing to sidecar files”.
> > Thanks. Alan
> >
> >
> > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> > 10